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#1 2015-09-12 14:23:09

MrDowntempo
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Plugging Openbox into Desktop Environments

I do love openbox and it's single menu, but I also like having a DE behind the scenes keeping track of things like default text editors and volume setting etc. etc. Many DE's let you swap out the WM so this is done often I suppose. I'm curious as to what DE's any of the bunsen users might use? Do you plug openbox into MATE? XFCE? LXDE? or even LXQT? Cinnamon? KDE? Which setup works the best for you guys?

Part of the reason I'm asking is I'm considering using another Jessie based distro like point linux or SolydX and then using the bunsen repo to pull over the good stuff wink I've used XFCE quite a bit in the past, and I'm familiar with Gnome2 so MATE shouldn't be too different, Really I could be comfortable with any of the DEs running just so long as it's rather seemless.

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#2 2015-09-12 14:35:24

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Re: Plugging Openbox into Desktop Environments

LXDE uses OpenBox as far as I know.  As to the rest ... I don't use any - sorry.

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#3 2015-09-12 15:38:45

nore
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Re: Plugging Openbox into Desktop Environments

Login to your DE and do

openbox --replace &

I use Openbox in XFCE instead of xfwm.

Last edited by nore (2015-09-12 15:48:37)

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#4 2015-09-12 15:40:55

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Re: Plugging Openbox into Desktop Environments

^ Interesting ... did you also remove xfwm - or is that not possible?

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#5 2015-09-12 15:47:28

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Re: Plugging Openbox into Desktop Environments

^Never tried removing it, why bother? I don't fancy solving dependencies.

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#6 2015-09-12 16:10:07

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Re: Plugging Openbox into Desktop Environments

 12 Sep 15 | 12:54:21 ~
    $ dep xfwm4
alias dep=apt-cache depends filename
xfwm4
  Depends: libc6
  Depends: libdbus-glib-1-2
  Depends: libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0
  Depends: libglib2.0-0
  Depends: libgtk2.0-0
  Depends: libpango-1.0-0
  Depends: libstartup-notification0
  Depends: libwnck22
  Depends: libx11-6
  Depends: libxcomposite1
  Depends: libxdamage1
  Depends: libxext6
  Depends: libxfce4ui-1-0
  Depends: libxfce4util6
  Depends: libxfconf-0-2
  Depends: libxfixes3
  Depends: libxrandr2
  Depends: libxrender1
  Suggests: xfce4
  Suggests: xfwm4-themes
  Recommends: librsvg2-common
 
 12 Sep 15 | 12:54:27 ~
    $

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#7 2015-09-12 19:00:03

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Re: Plugging Openbox into Desktop Environments

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#8 2015-09-13 01:59:02

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Re: Plugging Openbox into Desktop Environments

In a way, BunsenLabs is almost a DE...

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#9 2015-09-13 05:50:07

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#10 2015-09-13 13:55:58

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Re: Plugging Openbox into Desktop Environments

Last edited by Nili (2015-09-13 14:25:46)

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#11 2015-09-13 17:45:34

tknomanzr
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Re: Plugging Openbox into Desktop Environments

The #! philosophy was to avoid bloat as much as possible by not using packages with massive dependency chains. BL is attempting this design philosophy while also respecting the user's ability to choose how to set up their environment. What brought me to #! was the fact that it was light-weight yet elegant in its design. I would hope that this philosophy would extend into the future.

That being said, BL should run on nearly any WM/DE setup you can imagine. One thing we don't provide, however, is KDE themes. So to set it up in a KDE environment would generally add to the bloat.

In general, I would say BL occupies a happy middle-ground as I tend to be even more aggressive about my package selection. I despise Gnome 3 client side decorations, and therefor don't use Gnome3 apps at all, if it can be avoided. The one that I do use, networkmanager, I have to go and add special work-arounds to compton's config in order to not have crazy double shadows on it's dialogs. So yeah, I tend to disagree with Gnome's current design philosophy, as I do with Ubuntu and Unity and KDE as well.

I believe in letting people have it their way. I am not a big fan of the big DE's shoving poor UX design down people's throats. These little distro-lets provide a unique experience among the entire OS eco-system in the philosophy of keep it simple and let people choose how to set their desktop environment up. The #!/BL design philosophy has allowed me to set up an environment that fits me and my work flow. To me that is priceless and worth more than all of OSX/Windows/Unity/KDE/Gnome3 combined. I will be happy the day that big companies finally figure this out.

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#12 2015-09-13 18:33:20

Nili
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Re: Plugging Openbox into Desktop Environments

Agree with your comment tknomanzr

Above my post, I wanted to say more for personal usage using minimum resurces.
Regarding distro like #Crunchbang, or BunsenLabs

I understand and welcome both distros, i started learning from here, here is my classroom. What the BunsenLabs staff are doing I know they make the best possible to satisfied people who want something lighter in their baskets.

So, take my opinion only for personal usage not to show how BunsenLabs must be.

Regards,
Nili

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#13 2015-09-13 19:31:46

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Re: Plugging Openbox into Desktop Environments

I like your approach in a lot of ways. Some of your posts have shifted my preferences to cli tools for certain things. I have been intending to post what a great thing I think BL extending debian alternatives is. It really does let us start with BL as our template and build it the way we want it.

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#14 2015-09-13 20:37:44

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Re: Plugging Openbox into Desktop Environments

Me too based from what I've seen from other user posts  smile

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#15 2015-09-14 04:57:33

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Re: Plugging Openbox into Desktop Environments

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#16 2015-09-14 10:50:53

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#17 2015-09-14 12:49:47

hhh
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#18 2015-09-16 15:56:51

nore
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#19 2015-09-16 20:03:34

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Re: Plugging Openbox into Desktop Environments

This is a no-brainer even to a linux-yokel like me; when i want to be molly-coddled and live in luxury as it were, i go to my LMDE partition but if i want to aspire at anything like efficiency or getting the most out of my machine with the minimum of resources of my choosing..without going to the other extreme of sacrificing all creature comforts of a GUi, of course..a DE just doesn't make sense, and having a WM on top of one seems absolutely silly.  tongue  Although, I have used Crunchbang up to Statler and if Bunsen Labs is carrying on it's legacy, then what it offers as a DE must be the exception i haven't accounted for, but otherwise..

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#20 2015-09-17 08:31:07

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Re: Plugging Openbox into Desktop Environments

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#21 2015-09-17 08:51:03

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#22 2015-09-17 12:33:34

hhh
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Re: Plugging Openbox into Desktop Environments

@johnraff, great link! Thanks.

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#23 2015-09-19 09:51:35

ostrołęk
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Re: Plugging Openbox into Desktop Environments

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