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#1 2015-08-09 15:11:55

gonzo
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From: Berlin, Germany
Registered: 2012-06-20
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Linux compatible utrabook recommendation

Looking to replace my old laptop with a new ultrabook.
I'm towards the end of my PhD program, so it will mostly be used for data analysis, statistics, and writing.
Portability (weight, battery life), sufficient processing power (no need for high graphics though), and durability are the main points I'm focused on. And given that I have been using linux distros almost exclusively in the past 2 years, I have decided my next purchase will not have windows on it.

Does the community have any feedback regarding laptops/ultrabooks currently in the market that would behave properly with the linux kernel? My budget can extend to a maximum of 1k euros. I live in Germany. So far my I'm leaning towards Dell's new XPS 13 Developer Edition with Ubuntu pre-installed on it [http://goo.gl/ltnYny]. Anyone here who has used it and has some feedback?

Much appreciated.
G

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#2 2015-08-09 17:01:08

intoCB
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Re: Linux compatible utrabook recommendation

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Sorry, just saw your budget.

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#3 2015-08-09 18:50:40

CSCoder4ever
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Re: Linux compatible utrabook recommendation

If I had the money, I'd get the developer edition as well

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#4 2015-08-09 20:06:10

KrunchTime
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Re: Linux compatible utrabook recommendation

I bought an ASUS Zenbook UX303LA in January and I love it.  However, it only came with a 128GB SSD, so I upgraded that myself to a 500GB SSD from Crucial for additional $$.  I also maxed out the memory with the intention of running Windows 8 in a VM.

BunsenLabs runs fine on it although I experienced a minor hiccup performing the net install.  See my post here for more info.

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#5 2015-08-09 20:30:38

twoion
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Re: Linux compatible utrabook recommendation

@OP Thinkpad X250; use a Lenovo campus store to get the student discount. This will bring you definitely down to 800-900€.

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#6 2015-08-10 07:27:48

brontosaurusrex
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Registered: 2012-06-15
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Re: Linux compatible utrabook recommendation

I would go with some sort of thinkpad as well, they tend to have great keyboards (x1 carbon is probably to pricey?)

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#7 2015-08-10 08:12:35

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Re: Linux compatible utrabook recommendation

The XPS13 works fine with the Ubuntu tweaks but must be manually adjusted with other distributions  [1], the Lenovo X250 should work out of the box as long as the Broadwell Graphics are supported (ie, version 2.99 of the Intel driver & version >4.0 of the kernel).

For something as important as your thesis, I would recommend an X250 running Debian jessie with the backported version of the video driver [2] and the Liquorix kernel [3] -- IMO Debian Stable will be more reliable than Ubuntu (even with the backported packages).

[1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/De … %282015%29

[2] https://wiki.debian.org/Backports & https://packages.debian.org/jessie-back … ideo-intel

[3] http://liquorix.net/

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#8 2015-08-10 20:08:32

gonzo
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From: Berlin, Germany
Registered: 2012-06-20
Posts: 22

Re: Linux compatible utrabook recommendation

Thanks everyone for the great input.

I had already considered the ASUS Zenbook and the Thinkpad X1. The latter, although highly attractive, I had discarded as an option because of its price. Even with Lenovo campus (thanks for the tip @twoion), the lowest model is sold for 1.3k.
X250 with comparable specs to the XPS13 DE base model is also sold at a similar price to the dell. I had preferred the XPS for its slightly bigger screen within similar dimensions, but it appears like I'll have less headaches with the X250. [The XPS 13 DE seems to have also been 'withdrawn from the shelves' recently by Dell due to including many bugs out of the box]. So it might just be the X250...

@Head on a stick, many thanks for the driver and kernel input. I had run a similar setup years ago [coincidentally during my MSc. thesis]: #! Statler (stable+backports) coupled with the Liquorix kernel. I'll be fully satisfied if it gives me half the stability I had back then on a new rig.

Much appreciated all.
cheers.

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#9 2015-08-12 13:13:22

twoion
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Re: Linux compatible utrabook recommendation

I have to roll back my x250 recommendation, Lenovo found to have yet another rootkit hidden in their BIOS (arstechnica).


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#10 2015-08-12 19:59:58

gonzo
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From: Berlin, Germany
Registered: 2012-06-20
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Re: Linux compatible utrabook recommendation

^ Interesting piece of news that. Although I doubt it's only Lenovo that is including such files.
Though the question is, if you wipe out the windows installation on the device and say install a GNU linux OS , given that the file in the BIOS is a .exe file, I suspect that it would have no effect whatsoever.

Regardless, this should encourage more people [the ones who are aware at least] to pursue buying computers with linux pre-installed, without any OS, or MS certified at least.

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#11 2015-08-13 00:29:14

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Registered: 2009-11-03
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Re: Linux compatible utrabook recommendation

twoion wrote:

I have to roll back my x250 recommendation, Lenovo found to have yet another rootkit hidden in their BIOS (arstechnica).

You'd think they'd have learned something from the Superfish snafu.


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#12 2015-08-13 08:35:51

MartinRF
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Re: Linux compatible utrabook recommendation

gonzo wrote:

^ Interesting piece of news that. Although I doubt it's only Lenovo that is including such files.
Though the question is, if you wipe out the windows installation on the device and say install a GNU linux OS , given that the file in the BIOS is a .exe file, I suspect that it would have no effect whatsoever.

It looks like you are right:
http://www.osnews.com/story/28774/Lenov … t_crapware

/Martin

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