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#4151 2015-07-09 06:40:42

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

KrunchTime wrote:

If all of the world's current leaders can't solve all the problems, how can you believe that one person could?

I said United States of the World, not a World Dictator! Of course I meant a democratic, accountable government. For an obvious example of the kind of problem that is very hard to deal with when you've got a collection of governments with different constituencies to represent, all vying for a bigger share of a dwindling pie: the change to this planet's climate and the effects it will have on all  human beings. Why should country A reduce its carbon emissions if country B refuses to? Others are preservation of the resources of the oceans, controlling the international arms trade, setting up an international court that can try war criminals and resolve territorial disputes...


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#4152 2015-07-09 08:35:11

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@johnraff:  United States of the World...global dictator...they pretty much mean the same thing to me.

I've expressed my views before here in the forums regarding global warming/climate change...it may be fact, but I don't buy into the hysteria that man is the leading cause and that we can do something about it.  Who's to say it's not a natural cycle that the earth goes through?

I'm very confident that an international court would not be fair and impartial at all.  I am not a fan at all of any type of global organization having jurisdiction over all countries.


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#4153 2015-07-09 08:42:05

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I would quite like to be global dictator.

Palaces. Imposingly shiny cars. Luxury virgins. A bullet to the back of the head when a rabble finally rises up to overthrow you. Ah, those were the days.

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#4154 2015-07-09 08:47:39

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@intoCB:  Ah, those were the days.  Still goes on. Remember what has occurred to those who have crossed Putin in Russia.  Have you read any of the accounts of the rule of the Hussein family in Iraq?  And who can forget North Korea?

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#4155 2015-07-09 09:41:57

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^It was just a non-sequitur i.e. nostalgia for something I'm looking forward to.

Don't worry. When I'm world dictator, I'll make you governor of the Western Marches. The pay will be good and you'll get luncheon vouchers and a laptop.

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#4156 2015-07-09 13:07:39

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Anaconda wrote:

I have been reading some of the comments regarding the money problems in Greece and the rest of the world that were prompted by this link posted by twoion. Unfortunately none of it addresses the core of the problem, which is the manner in which money is created by private banks, and the way it is introduced into the economy as debt with interest attached. No proposed solutions to the worlds economic problems that do not take this into account will ever solve anything.

For anyone interested in learning more see the following.
For general info. http://positivemoney.org/

To see the short version of what Iceland is looking at see this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TMcGb3bW-k
For the report spoken of in the video. http://www.forsaetisraduneyti.is/media/ … reform.pdf

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#4157 2015-07-09 13:22:50

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@anaconda - Exactly (concerning the central banks creation of "money"). The game is rigged, and the 99% are the suckers.

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#4158 2015-07-09 21:46:26

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
userx-bw wrote:

you believe in science

No, you clearly do not understand the scientific method...

This seems to be a universal misunderstanding in discussions between both sides. I see it here, I constantly see it here where I live (HR) ... and everywhere.

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So, HoaS, I think you are wasting your time ...  big_smile


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#4159 2015-07-09 21:50:09

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#4160 2015-07-09 22:07:33

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Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Your posts are too prolix.

Can you be more concise please?

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you now speak the mind of a philosopher.
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when you have time please read


"How can you learn how to fix it, if you don't break it first? :8
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"A computer is only as smart as the person using it"
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#4161 2015-07-09 22:11:42

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Ditto...

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#4162 2015-07-09 22:29:55

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

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Ditto...

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"How can you learn how to fix it, if you don't break it first? :8
"the only way to get away with murder is - by killing time" swp 1997  8o
"A computer is only as smart as the person using it"
"Just plug it in and see if it blows up, if not then take it apart and figure out how it works."

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#4163 2015-07-09 23:06:43

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

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Wait -- why am I debating this?

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#4164 2015-07-09 23:36:08

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Truth spoken here.

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#4165 2015-07-09 23:37:45

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"How can you learn how to fix it, if you don't break it first? :8
"the only way to get away with murder is - by killing time" swp 1997  8o
"A computer is only as smart as the person using it"
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#4166 2015-07-09 23:47:18

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

porkpiehat wrote:

Wait -- why am I debating this?

Exactly ... well said ....

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Therefore what I believe in is personal and is a door, it's OK for you to have a different door, please respect mine, I'll respect yours.


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#4167 2015-07-10 00:01:47

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"How can you learn how to fix it, if you don't break it first? :8
"the only way to get away with murder is - by killing time" swp 1997  8o
"A computer is only as smart as the person using it"
"Just plug it in and see if it blows up, if not then take it apart and figure out how it works."

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#4168 2015-07-10 00:05:08

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Sector11 wrote:

Therefore what I believe in is personal and is a door, it's OK for you to have a different door, please respect mine, I'll respect yours.

This. Most of the problems in the world today are the result of people not following this one simple principle.

And with that, I am done with this "debate." These things never turn out well.

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#4169 2015-07-10 00:09:35

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^ there will always be people that believe and not believe and not know what to believe but they still will have faith, hope and a belief system of some kind and always seek the truth. (in what ever it is they want to know about)


this is the nature of man.

their is only one truth and the rest is  a lie.

you computers geeks and want a be's should know their is one one state the computer can be in.  on or off, yes or no, therefore their can only be one truth and everything else is a lie.

psychics and sciences and psychology just explain the whys and hows of life  and things around us that we can see, but if a tree falls and no one sees it does it still make a noise?

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"How can you learn how to fix it, if you don't break it first? :8
"the only way to get away with murder is - by killing time" swp 1997  8o
"A computer is only as smart as the person using it"
"Just plug it in and see if it blows up, if not then take it apart and figure out how it works."

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#4170 2015-07-10 00:22:03

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NewCityVegas wrote:
userx-bw wrote:

even seen on TV 30 minutes a while back how this one person was living high on the hog off of bankruptcy. He'd just live off of 2 or 3 cards charged up major amounts buying BIG TVs stereos and such most everything he could, then file for bankruptcy, get to keep about half of it, then a few months later go back at it again.

Months? I don't think so.

In the USA, you can file Chapter 13 every six years or Chapter 7 every eight years.

If you file a Chapter 13, you can file a new Chapter 7 after four years.

it was so many years ago I had seen that show my fact may be a bit blurred on how long he waited before filing again, I only know he was on 60 minutes bragging about how he was getting away with getting many shiny new things for free by using the credit card then file for bankruptcy so he can keep it way of life. 

as for me yes they sent me a card a few months later after I filed against them I just threw that card away so I wouldn't have to go though that again.


"How can you learn how to fix it, if you don't break it first? :8
"the only way to get away with murder is - by killing time" swp 1997  8o
"A computer is only as smart as the person using it"
"Just plug it in and see if it blows up, if not then take it apart and figure out how it works."

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#4171 2015-07-10 00:31:55

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

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Ditto...

I'm totally on board with you on this matter smile


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#4172 2015-07-10 00:35:33

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"How can you learn how to fix it, if you don't break it first? :8
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"A computer is only as smart as the person using it"
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#4173 2015-07-10 02:10:32

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I consider myself a humanist and an agnostic. I vehemently disagree with any religion that subjugates its believers. All that "You are weak. You are incapable. You can do nothing without God." stuff offends the hell out of me. I believe the world would be a lot better off if we gave humanity another shot. Believed in each other. And our race as a whole. But I suppose it's fashionable to be defeatist and tear yourself down. Some people might see it a different way, but I've never understood the appeal of those kinds of teaching.

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#4174 2015-07-10 04:52:21

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Cynicism -> Distrust > Hostility. Not saying you shouldn't be careful, but damn. Cynicism and distrust are taught to us. A certain amount of cynicism is healthy, but I believe we've taken it a bit too far. Maybe it's the news that is at fault... It certainly doesn't help matters. Got everyone believing that every other person is a thief or murderer. I'm with Stephen King, in that I believe that most people are basically good. The media makes things seem worse than they are. I've looked up murder rates around my state before, and the numbers really aren't at any kind of peak. They've been worse in the 80s. But everyone keeps claiming that it's getting worse and worse. And that this kind of stuff never used to happen. I don't like the cycle this kind of taught behavior maintains. We are all human. Our first reaction to a stranger shouldn't be, "Oh. This guy is going to screw me over." That's not the kind of connection that fuels our progress.


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#4175 2015-07-10 06:24:09

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

porkpiehat wrote:

Wait -- why am I debating this?

The trick is not to actually read what he's posting tongue

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