SEARCH

Enter your search query in the box above ^, or use the forum search tool.

You are not logged in.

#76 2015-06-26 06:48:03

johnraff
nullglob
From: Nagoya, Japan
Registered: 2009-01-07
Posts: 4,148
Website

Re: Sub-alpha BunsenLabs netinstall script

tknomanzr wrote:

By the way is there a reason not to use obconf-lxappearance? I have been using the combined package for some time now. One less menu entry to navigate.

There are more options on obconf than in the combined package. That's how I remember it anyway...


John
--------------------
( a boring Japan blog , Japan Links, idle twitterings  and GitStuff )
#! forum moderator    BunsenLabs

Offline

Help fund CrunchBang, donate to the project!

#77 2015-06-30 02:43:33

paxmark1
#! Junkie
From: Winnipeg, MB Canada
Registered: 2009-07-08
Posts: 263

Re: Sub-alpha BunsenLabs netinstall script

Hi, I just said goodbye to #! and  installed 8.1 debian lxde and I am going to crunchify.   I am reading up.  aptitude search appearance for me finds no obconf-lxappearance -- however I do get lxappearance-obconf  which was autoinstalled  along with openbox.  (I did have to install obmenu) 

Is there a difference between obconf-lxappearance and lxappearance-obconf?


Jean Vanier wrote "Being Human" and "A Short History of Progress" by Ronald Wright.  Gotta love the Massey Lectures.

Offline

#78 2015-06-30 06:34:24

Head_on_a_Stick
CatMod
From: A world of pure imagination
Registered: 2014-01-21
Posts: 4,797

Re: Sub-alpha BunsenLabs netinstall script

paxmark1 wrote:

Is there a difference between obconf-lxappearance and lxappearance-obconf?

The second one actually exists (it's a plugin for lxappearance).

Offline

#79 2015-06-30 13:05:02

Sector11
#!'er to BL'er
From: SR11 Cockpit
Registered: 2010-05-05
Posts: 15,667
Website

Re: Sub-alpha BunsenLabs netinstall script

^ But lxappearance-obconfig is not a two in one app as some people think. IE replace obconfig and lxappearance

Installing 'lxappearance' and 'obconfig' gives more options: than 'lxappearance' and 'lxappearance-obconfig'

The way I look at it if you are going to install 2 apps ... get the most for your download:

lxappearance-obconf
1. Widget = lxappearance 1
2. Color = lxappearance 2
3. Icon Theme = lxappearance 3
4. Mouse Cursor = lxappearance 4
5. Window Border - see obconfig 1
- Title Bar - see obconfig 2
- Misc - see obconfig 2
6. Font = lxappearance 5
7. Other = lxappearance 6

lxapparence
1. Widget
2. Color
3. Icon Theme
4. Mouse Cursor
5. Font
6. Other


obconfig
1. Theme = lxappearance-obconf 5 - Window Border
2. Appearance = lxappearance-obconf 5 - TitleBar, Misc
3. Windows - unique to obconfig only
4. Move & Resize - unique to obconfig only
5. Mouse - unique to obconfig only
6. Desktops - unique to obconfig only
7. Margin - unique to obconfig only
8. Dock - unique to obconfig only


·  ↓   ↓   ↓   ↓   ↓   ↓  ·
BunsenLabs Forums now Open for Registration
·  ↑   ↑   ↑   ↑   ↑   ↑  · BL ModSquad

Offline

#80 2015-06-30 13:20:52

userx-bw
#! Die Hard
From: stuck in an unknown reality
Registered: 2013-11-19
Posts: 735

Re: Sub-alpha BunsenLabs netinstall script

I've tried like 5 times to get Bl Netinstall in a VB install of Debain netinstall -- no go -- it drags when it gets to your stuff then gives up..

Don't know if it "me" being the VirtualBox Debian install or slow lines on git side. because I can ping outside of VB and get a good response times. it rather frustrating really


"How can you learn how to fix it, if you don't break it first? :8
"the only way to get away with murder is - by killing time" swp 1997  8o
"A computer is only as smart as the person using it"
"Just plug it in and see if it blows up, if not then take it apart and figure out how it works."

Offline

#81 2015-06-30 21:36:05

hhh
Cityspeak
Registered: 2010-08-04
Posts: 3,253

Re: Sub-alpha BunsenLabs netinstall script

userx-bw wrote:

I've tried like 5 times to get Bl Netinstall in a VB install of Debain netinstall -- no go

BL failed for me also in VB when it got to Bunsen-Faenza-Icons(or whatever they're named). Might be my fault, I've very little experience with VB.


bunsenlabs     8)     forum mod squad

Offline

#82 2015-06-30 22:25:17

userx-bw
#! Die Hard
From: stuck in an unknown reality
Registered: 2013-11-19
Posts: 735

Re: Sub-alpha BunsenLabs netinstall script

hhh wrote:
userx-bw wrote:

I've tried like 5 times to get Bl Netinstall in a VB install of Debain netinstall -- no go

BL failed for me also in VB when it got to Bunsen-Faenza-Icons(or whatever they're named). Might be my fault, I've very little experience with VB.

logic states if it can download and install everything else then even some of the BL stuff but when it  gets to a certain point with the BL downloading to build then it cannot be the VB OS right? because it is working with everything else except that.

I was wondering if I was the only one as I just tried it again a few hours ago and I am not sure where but it is one of the BL - installs I believe when it is checking for speed ?? has them numbers on the right side and such .. then it crapped out on me again, and I don't want to do a hard install on my hdd again just to see whats up.


"How can you learn how to fix it, if you don't break it first? :8
"the only way to get away with murder is - by killing time" swp 1997  8o
"A computer is only as smart as the person using it"
"Just plug it in and see if it blows up, if not then take it apart and figure out how it works."

Offline

#83 2015-07-01 00:22:17

schwim
#! Die Hard
From: Interweb's #1 Devotee
Registered: 2012-10-11
Posts: 1,031
Website

Re: Sub-alpha BunsenLabs netinstall script

My install was in a VM and went swimmingly.

Offline

#84 2015-07-01 00:26:11

userx-bw
#! Die Hard
From: stuck in an unknown reality
Registered: 2013-11-19
Posts: 735

Re: Sub-alpha BunsenLabs netinstall script

^ well buuuuuuy yourself an ice cream ~ mine didn't -- big_smile


"How can you learn how to fix it, if you don't break it first? :8
"the only way to get away with murder is - by killing time" swp 1997  8o
"A computer is only as smart as the person using it"
"Just plug it in and see if it blows up, if not then take it apart and figure out how it works."

Offline

#85 2015-07-01 00:28:52

schwim
#! Die Hard
From: Interweb's #1 Devotee
Registered: 2012-10-11
Posts: 1,031
Website

Re: Sub-alpha BunsenLabs netinstall script

userx-bw wrote:

^ well buuuuuuy yourself an ice cream ~ mine didn't -- big_smile

Sounds like PEBKAC to me  tongue

Offline

#86 2015-07-01 00:38:32

userx-bw
#! Die Hard
From: stuck in an unknown reality
Registered: 2013-11-19
Posts: 735

Re: Sub-alpha BunsenLabs netinstall script

schwim wrote:
userx-bw wrote:

^ well buuuuuuy yourself an ice cream ~ mine didn't -- big_smile

Sounds like PEBKAC to me  tongue

My mind isn't capibale of figuring out such long acronyms, thats like speaking spanish to me and expecimg me to understand it lol ... but NE ways .. I just tried it again on a hard install of Debian and this is what I got like three times so far...

Fetched 186 kB in 6s (29.8 kB/s)
W: Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.deb-multimedia.org/dists/jessie/InRelease  Unable to find expected entry 'contrib/binary-amd64/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)

W: Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.deb-multimedia.org/dists/jessie-backports/InRelease  Unable to find expected entry 'contrib/binary-amd64/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)

E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
######## WARNING ########
'apt-get --quiet update' returned an error
------------------------------------------------

There was a problem with 'apt-get update'.
There may be some information in /home/userx/.bunsen-netinstall-logs/install.log.
Would you like to continue anyway, or exit?
(press enter to continue, any other key to exit)

[1m######## ERROR ########
    terminated by userx, goodbye!
------------------------------------------------
[0;10mnow exiting...

"How can you learn how to fix it, if you don't break it first? :8
"the only way to get away with murder is - by killing time" swp 1997  8o
"A computer is only as smart as the person using it"
"Just plug it in and see if it blows up, if not then take it apart and figure out how it works."

Offline

#87 2015-07-01 00:59:13

userx-bw
#! Die Hard
From: stuck in an unknown reality
Registered: 2013-11-19
Posts: 735

Re: Sub-alpha BunsenLabs netinstall script

^ O Tay ~ I got that figured out, it is still just making a copy of what ever is already the sources.list then just backing it up then copying the exact same one in again, instead of just backing up whatever is in there then copying over the one he really needs to be in there, in there then using that one and not what ever was in there to begin with.

it actually a wasted step, putting back the very same thing leaving a not needed back up file, IMO

Last edited by userx-bw (2015-07-01 01:03:45)


"How can you learn how to fix it, if you don't break it first? :8
"the only way to get away with murder is - by killing time" swp 1997  8o
"A computer is only as smart as the person using it"
"Just plug it in and see if it blows up, if not then take it apart and figure out how it works."

Offline

#88 2015-07-01 06:21:25

johnraff
nullglob
From: Nagoya, Japan
Registered: 2009-01-07
Posts: 4,148
Website

Re: Sub-alpha BunsenLabs netinstall script

hhh wrote:
userx-bw wrote:

I've tried like 5 times to get Bl Netinstall in a VB install of Debain netinstall -- no go

BL failed for me also in VB when it got to Bunsen-Faenza-Icons(or whatever they're named). Might be my fault, I've very little experience with VB.

Don't give up too soon. My installs also take a long time to digest the icon package and the images package. They appear to be hanging, but you might have to wait a couple of minutes (or possibly more depending on the resources available to your VM) then it carries on as if nothing had happened.

This is because the whole git repo is being downloaded and the .deb file is being built on your computer. It's also possible your VM is running out of RAM, again depending on its resource allocations. These issues should go away when we move to providing ready-built .deb files on a Debian-style repository.


John
--------------------
( a boring Japan blog , Japan Links, idle twitterings  and GitStuff )
#! forum moderator    BunsenLabs

Offline

#89 2015-07-01 11:36:00

Unia
#! Octo-portal-pussy
From: The Netherlands
Registered: 2010-07-17
Posts: 4,634
Website

Re: Sub-alpha BunsenLabs netinstall script

schwim wrote:

My install was in a VM and went schwimmingly.

FTFY big_smile


If you can't sit by a cozy fire with your code in hand enjoying its simplicity and clarity, it needs more work. --Carlos Torres

I am a #! forum moderator. Feel free to send me a PM with any question you have!

Offline

#90 2015-07-01 11:41:59

userx-bw
#! Die Hard
From: stuck in an unknown reality
Registered: 2013-11-19
Posts: 735

Re: Sub-alpha BunsenLabs netinstall script

^ Thanks JR ...

limited resources, makes sense, I got Solaris 11.2 on VB as well and it doesn't down load anything well enough to say so, it will cut and run real good for about a half a minute then stall out on me. Never thought to put two and two together being different OSes and doing / trying different things out with every OS I got installed in Virtual Box now. Just getting started with playing with VB figuring out all of its quirks.

I did give in and just run netinstall on my Debian Hard Copy Install, where I was just using i3 and dwm. It ran without errors caused by anything to do with BL install script.

Noting it is a VituralBox thing
thanks for clearing that up for me. smile

Last edited by userx-bw (2015-07-01 11:44:03)


"How can you learn how to fix it, if you don't break it first? :8
"the only way to get away with murder is - by killing time" swp 1997  8o
"A computer is only as smart as the person using it"
"Just plug it in and see if it blows up, if not then take it apart and figure out how it works."

Offline

#91 2015-07-01 15:49:57

hhh
Cityspeak
Registered: 2010-08-04
Posts: 3,253

Re: Sub-alpha BunsenLabs netinstall script

johnraff wrote:

These issues should go away when we move to providing ready-built .deb files on a Debian-style repository.

To me, this seems like the best path forward, if one could add a line to /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get install bunsen (or whatever) to a jessie netinstall. I don't see a real need for a live ISO other than to check hardware compatibility, and one could use any of the other Debian Live DEs for that.


bunsenlabs     8)     forum mod squad

Offline

#92 2015-07-01 22:56:10

tknomanzr
#! Die Hard
From: Heavener, OK
Registered: 2014-12-09
Posts: 777

Re: Sub-alpha BunsenLabs netinstall script

If a single apt-get is sufficient to install the entire BunsenLabs system, then the Live Build also becomes pretty trivial. Set up the config files, which can be pulled from Git when setup, put the one BunsenLabs meta package into the package lists folder, then do the build.

Once I wrapped my mind around how the Live Build actually worked, the difficulty that I had was remembering to track the changes, because I was manually loading everything into the Live Build system.

Offline

#93 2015-07-02 01:12:45

spacex
ew
From: Norway
Registered: 2015-01-17
Posts: 385
Website

Re: Sub-alpha BunsenLabs netinstall script

@tknomanzr

I agree in theory. But in real life it probably won't be quite that easy. I see a possible issue because the current  Bunsen starting point aren't necessarily recreated in live build just by adding the standard-system-tools and nothing else. It will not produce a clone of the Debian netinstall-image. It may be that either the live-build part, or the Bunsen part of it, needs some tweaking for everything to end up with the expected and wanted end-result. Nothing major, but there will be some small things to sort out smile


Regards,
spacex/ew
http://tweaklinux.org

Offline

#94 2015-07-08 13:34:17

rwsChris
#! Member
From: Stamford, CT, US
Registered: 2012-12-31
Posts: 61

Re: Sub-alpha BunsenLabs netinstall script

I installed sub-alpha in Virtual Box. It worked well. I did not include the root-password per the usual #!-style (this disables root, as I understand). I did install basic system tools (the final check box in the installation). I ran bl-welcome script on start-up. I skipped deb-multimedia and the development tools.

To install Virtual Box Guest Additions

Use the VB interface to insert the VB CD:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
sudo apt-get install dkms

Move to the CD directory (I think it was /media/cdrom)

sudo sh ./VBoxLinuxAdditions.run

Offline

#95 2015-07-18 15:18:01

farmer
Member
Registered: 2015-07-15
Posts: 21

Re: Sub-alpha BunsenLabs netinstall script

PROBLEM WITH UPDATE-ALTERNATIVES GRUB IN THE BUNSEN-NETINSTALL SCRIPT

When I installed Bunsenlabs using the debian netinstall => bunsen-netinstall method I ran into an error with the  update-alternatives grub.

It took me a while to figure it out but here is what was happenning:
Problem:
1.  dmz-cursor-theme and desktop-base pkgs were removed from the default bunsenlabs install.
2.  The bunsen-netinstall script runs update-alternatives grub (or whatever the command is exactly) and throws an error.
     a.  The error says something to the effect that /usr/share/images/desktop-base doesn't exist.
     b.  The script carries on
3.  When I go to reboot the computer hangs before the grub menu is displayed.  The system couldn't be started.
4.  I had to run debian netinstall in rescue mode to reinstall grub on /dev/sda

Reason:
5.  Since I had to reinstall bunsenlabs a number of times for different reasons I finally figured out that I was getting the error because the desktop-base pkg was not being installed.
6.  When desktop-base was commented out from the default install it inadvertently created the error because the update-alternatives grub script is dependent upon the existence of the /usr/share/images/desktop-base directory.

Solution:
7.  After I ran bunsen-netinstall I exited from the script and did not have it reboot the computer automatically.
8.  I manually created the /usr/share/images/desktop-base directory.
9.  I  then ran the bunsen-netinstall script again.  Since everything was already installed it worked its way through the script quickly.  Once it got to the update-alternatives grub sequence it purred  right along without any more difficulty.
10.  If I had had my wits about me I would have manually created the /usr/share/images/desktop-base directory before I ran the bunsen-netinstall script the first time and I wouldn't have had to run the script twice.

Suggestion:
11.  Fix the script to create the /usr/share/images/desktop-base  before running update-alternatives
12.  Or whatever other fix is more appropriate to avoid this error in the future.

Let me know if you need clarification.
I hope this is helpful!

Thank you so much for carrying on the Crunchbang tradition!

I look forward to getting as much use out of Bunsenlabs as I did Crunchbang!  :-}.

Last edited by farmer (2015-07-18 17:27:00)

Offline

#96 2015-07-18 16:35:20

Sector11
#!'er to BL'er
From: SR11 Cockpit
Registered: 2010-05-05
Posts: 15,667
Website

Re: Sub-alpha BunsenLabs netinstall script

Awesome find ... thanks ... I'm not the script maintainer but good catch.


·  ↓   ↓   ↓   ↓   ↓   ↓  ·
BunsenLabs Forums now Open for Registration
·  ↑   ↑   ↑   ↑   ↑   ↑  · BL ModSquad

Offline

#97 2015-07-18 17:37:51

apprentice
#! Member
From: 43°42′N - 79°23′W
Registered: 2012-02-04
Posts: 96

Re: Sub-alpha BunsenLabs netinstall script

hhh wrote:

A preview of Bunsen-themes-extra, coming to you this summer...

http://i.imgur.com/B3Bdnw1m.png
WM: Openbox; Panel: xfce4-panel.

awesome is this
me want
does it have a name

is it (Bunsen-themes-extra) available somewhere yet

i no find it here
i also looked at twoion/2ion's bitbucket, github and aur but dont see it
or has it been renamed

or is it not summer where you are big_smile

thanks

all you do-bees keep up the fantabulous work so that us dont-bees can have purty desktops

cheers


So come up to the lab...
And see what's on the slab

Offline

#98 2015-07-18 20:28:44

hhh
Cityspeak
Registered: 2010-08-04
Posts: 3,253

Re: Sub-alpha BunsenLabs netinstall script

apprentice wrote:

is it (Bunsen-themes-extra) available somewhere yet

No. It got put on the back-burner while I worked on building some Live ISOs. I'll get back to it when I can.


bunsenlabs     8)     forum mod squad

Offline

#99 2015-07-19 08:27:37

johnraff
nullglob
From: Nagoya, Japan
Registered: 2009-01-07
Posts: 4,148
Website

Re: Sub-alpha BunsenLabs netinstall script

@farmer thank you very much for the careful and detailed bug report. I think some of those issues might get fixed when the latest bunsen packages get uploaded, but I'll check out what you posted and make sure it all gets sorted.

I'm away for a couple of days but hope to get it done later this week.


John
--------------------
( a boring Japan blog , Japan Links, idle twitterings  and GitStuff )
#! forum moderator    BunsenLabs

Offline

Be excellent to each other!

#100 2015-07-20 16:11:41

farmer
Member
Registered: 2015-07-15
Posts: 21

Re: Sub-alpha BunsenLabs netinstall script

@johnraff

You are welcome!  I am glad that I can help in some small way :-}.

Offline

Board footer

Powered by FluxBB

Copyright © 2012 CrunchBang Linux.
Proudly powered by Debian. Hosted by Linode.
Debian is a registered trademark of Software in the Public Interest, Inc.
Server: acrobat

Debian Logo