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#1 2015-06-23 12:38:46

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#2 2015-06-23 13:13:53

Nili
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Re: Switching from Linux to Windows

Simple choice of his.

I will never switch from Debian to Windows, I have Windows 7 for my daily usage on my work but never ever would use Windows at my home desktop.


# Debian GNU/Linux 8:8.2 (netinst/stable)
# Packages Installed: 541
# Linux debian 3.16.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u4 (2015-09-19) i686 GNU/Linux
# Startup finished in 2.850s (kernel) + 6.473s (userspace) = 9.324s

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#3 2015-06-23 13:14:43

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Re: Switching from Linux to Windows

you're late to the party lol

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#4 2015-06-23 14:41:18

schwim
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Re: Switching from Linux to Windows

Hardly newsworthy. Distro hopping isn't exclusive to linux.

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#5 2015-06-23 15:13:02

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Re: Switching from Linux to Windows

Gestern.

corenominal wrote:

bending to the OS

Do not try and bend the OS; that's impossible. Instead only try to realize the truth: there is no OS.  Then you'll see that it is not the OS that bends, it is only yourself.

I prefer an OS that bends to my will, thank you.

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#6 2015-06-23 18:18:02

intoCB
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Re: Switching from Linux to Windows

Corenominal is evil scum and I hope he dies. Well, not really. Good luck to him. He has given us this thing that has given us all so much pleasure. Whatever he does now and whatever he uses to move his pixels about on the VDU, I think he's earned his stripes.

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#7 2015-06-24 05:56:50

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Re: Switching from Linux to Windows

I still use Windows in a VM for things that I'm unable, or have not been able to figure out how, to do under Linux; e.g. printing, scanning, ripping and converting DVDs (for DVDs I've purchased and for my own personal use), removing eBook DRM (for eBooks I've purchased and for my own personal use), tax preparation software, and the Zinio eZine reader.


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#8 2015-06-24 09:09:51

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Re: Switching from Linux to Windows

I'm so behind the trends! I only properly dumped windows a month ago!


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#9 2015-06-24 09:25:56

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Re: Switching from Linux to Windows

pvsage wrote:

Gestern.

Don't mention the war! I did, once, but I think I got away with it...


"If you can't control your peanut butter, you can't expect to control your life."
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#10 2015-06-24 14:31:30

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Re: Switching from Linux to Windows

KrunchTime wrote:

...  ripping and converting DVDs (for DVDs I've purchased and for my own personal use), removing eBook DRM (for eBooks I've purchased

Handbrake  and Calibre (you'll need a DRM plugin).

red

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#11 2015-06-24 20:14:58

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Re: Switching from Linux to Windows

KrunchTime wrote:

ripping and converting DVDs (for DVDs I've purchased and for my own personal use)

The VideoLAN project (makers of VLC) has its own repo where they maintain builds of libdvdcss for several distros, including Debian.  Use this and something like Handbrake.

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#12 2015-06-25 00:24:30

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Re: Switching from Linux to Windows

I think libdvdcss made it into Jessie repos finally. Someone may correct me if I am wrong. Handbrake is just awesome. I know libdvdcss was my main reason for enabling deb.multimedia.org and I am pretty sure that became superfluous. I have used Handbrake to back up every dvd I own.

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#13 2015-06-25 04:46:00

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Re: Switching from Linux to Windows

tknomanzr wrote:

I think libdvdcss made it into Jessie repos finally. Someone may correct me if I am wrong.

Not yet. It was mentioned in a newsletter that it was planned. Debian recommends VideoLAN...
https://wiki.debian.org/CDDVD#DVD

Windows free here for several years, thankfully. Those awful updates that take forever to install and make you wait before shutting down, ackk.


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#14 2015-06-25 05:31:17

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Re: Switching from Linux to Windows

redcollective wrote:
KrunchTime wrote:

...  ripping and converting DVDs (for DVDs I've purchased and for my own personal use), removing eBook DRM (for eBooks I've purchased

Handbrake  and Calibre (you'll need a DRM plugin).

red

I thought Handbrake by itself didn't enable you to rip a DVD because of the DRM protections.  Perhaps as pvsage has suggested, the addition of libdvdcss makes it a complete product.  I'll have to research it.  I use products from Slysoft under Windows and they work without a hitch.  I also have a lifetime license for a number of their products.

I've heard about an ePUB DRM removal plugin for Calibre, but haven't looked into it.  Calibre in the Debian Stable repos is so old.  The version in the Unstable repo is currently 7 versions behind what is currently available on the Calibre site for Windows.

The software I use for eBook DRM removal under Windows, which wasn't free, works like a gem.  And you can also remove DRM from other eBook formats.

20150706-01 edit:  For the benefit of others, the library name is actually libdvdcss2.  Instructions for obtaining libdvdcss2 can be obtained here.  Also note that depending where you live, bypassing DVD encryption can be a gray area or illegal.

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#15 2015-06-25 05:59:47

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Re: Switching from Linux to Windows

Handbrake plus libdvdcss does indeed work.

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#16 2015-06-25 06:01:37

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Re: Switching from Linux to Windows

@tknomanzr:  Thank you for the affirmation.


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#17 2015-06-30 01:12:35

Inodoro Pereyra
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Re: Switching from Linux to Windows

I've just spent the last 3 or 4 hours trying to make a friend's daughter's computer work. First experience (for me) on Windows 8.1.

Now, I can't blame my friend for this. I know how young girls are, and I can bet my behind her technical reasons for buying this computer were probably along the lines of "It's SOOOOO cute!!!", or something like that. But I would LOVE to get my hands on the salesman's neck, just for a few minutes... mad

To make myself a little more clear: somebody sold her an Asus x201e "sublaptop" ( roll ). Intel Celeron @ 1.1GHz, 2GB RAM (soldered, non-upgradeable), a 320GB HDD,... and Windows 8.1 64 bit. Now, why in the friggin' Hell would somebody put a 64 bit Windows on such a machine is beyond me (maybe I should release the pressure on his neck for a moment, so he could tell me... but, on a second thought, who cares, right?), but the fact is, as soon as its new owner started filling it with all the crap 20 year old girls usually fill their computers with, the poor machine died on her, to the point it won't even finish booting up. And I'm so rusty with Windows in general, after more than 6 years in Heaven... I mean, Linux, that I'm completely lost. To boot, whoever sold it to her put an admin password, which of course she doesn't know, so I can't even get into safe mode with it.

So... Over the last few days, I've been reading this thread, thinking I can understand Philip's decision: he just got sick of it. It happened to me with electronics: it was my passion, until one day I woke up and decided I didn't care for it anymore, and I haven't touched a soldering iron since 1994.
So, I thought, hey, good for him. He burned a stage on his life, and he's starting a new one.
But now, after hours suffering that horrible POS... Thanks, but no, thanks. I'm staying with Linux. neutral

BTW: sorry for the rant. I'm just a bit frustrated at the moment...

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#18 2015-06-30 01:16:12

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Re: Switching from Linux to Windows

1.1 ghz w/ 2 gigs ram and win 8.1 64 bit? I didn't even know that was possible. It's no wonder the machine died.

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#19 2015-06-30 01:23:00

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Re: Switching from Linux to Windows

Blaming Windows for not running on that PoS is like blaming your car for not running on farts.

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#20 2015-06-30 01:27:36

Inodoro Pereyra
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Re: Switching from Linux to Windows

@Tknomanzr: Precisely what I thought when I could finally see the machine's specs.

But what bothers me is: What's the point?
I mean, there is a 32 bit version of W8.1 that would've worked (for better or for worse) on that machine. So, what's the point of installing the 64 bit one, on a computer with 2 gigs of non-upgradeable RAM?
Is there ANY advantage I'm not seeing?

@Schim: I agree. I'm not blaming Windows, I'm blaming the seller.
I just blame Windows for making these last few hours of my life a nightmare...  roll

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#21 2015-06-30 03:00:47

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Re: Switching from Linux to Windows

I won't take anything with less than 4GB of memory. And if I can help it, I want 8GB of memory... MINIMUM!  8o

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#22 2015-06-30 03:25:53

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Re: Switching from Linux to Windows

I dang sure wouldnt try to run Windows 8 with anything less than 4 gigs and that is actually pretty slim for it.

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#23 2015-06-30 06:37:33

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Re: Switching from Linux to Windows

schwim wrote:

Blaming Windows for not running on that PoS is like blaming your car for not running on farts.

SliTaz would fly on that hardware...
tongue

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#24 2015-06-30 11:23:31

schwim
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Re: Switching from Linux to Windows

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
schwim wrote:

Blaming Windows for not running on that PoS is like blaming your car for not running on farts.

SliTaz would fly on that hardware...
tongue

It would... however every common application needed for the girl with the computer in question  to use it would either freeze or run so slowly, it would be unusable.  What good is being capable of booting to the GUI if you can't use it when you get there?

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#25 2015-06-30 16:54:42

Inodoro Pereyra
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Re: Switching from Linux to Windows

tknomanzr wrote:

I dang sure wouldnt try to run Windows 8 with anything less than 4 gigs and that is actually pretty slim for it.

Yep. But I need to save that computer.
I'm thinking my only viable (non Linux) option would be to install the 32 bit version of W8.
Is Libreoffice any lighter on resources than MS Office? She wants MS Office, but I doubt it'd run, even on a 32 bit... hmm

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