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#1 2015-04-09 20:56:58

cpoakes
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What do you anticipate in Jessie?

In the last oldstable to stable transition, I anticipated a few packages and feature changes enough to jump the gun and install wheezy/waldorf before it went stable; gimme gimp single window mode, dwb, and focuswriter.  (Still prefer multi-window gimp and dropped the others.)  This time around I don't have a wishlist.

Why are you upgrading to Jessie?  Other than the obvious BunsenLabs refresh, what features or packages do you anticipate?


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#2 2015-04-09 21:28:17

tknomanzr
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Re: What do you anticipate in Jessie?

I have been crossing my fingers that Live Build's with UEFI support will make it in before Jessie goes stable.

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#3 2015-04-09 21:37:27

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Re: What do you anticipate in Jessie?

I changed my Wheezy systems over to Jessie a while ago simply 'cos I know how to use systemd a lot better than SysVinit; also with Jessie either init system can be selected from the GRUB menu ("SysVinit" is under the "Advanced Options" submenu).

The newer versions of compton, the kernel, the Intel video drivers and rxvt-unicode256color (a green cursor, finally!) all make my system run a lot smoother and cooler.

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#4 2015-04-10 06:44:27

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Re: What do you anticipate in Jessie?

I like the fact that MATE will be in Debian 8. And with no irony, I'm glad things like systemd and firewalld are in there. Oh and "apt". I like the way it tells you if there are upgrades available when you do "#apt update".

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#5 2015-04-10 09:16:12

intoCB
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Re: What do you anticipate in Jessie?

PS - Don't hold your breath. Although the current scheduled release date is April 25, a comparison of Squeeze and Wheezy numbers of bugs in the final weeks before their releases suggests that with 98 release critical bugs at present, a mid-May to end May release date is more realistic.

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#6 2015-04-10 19:39:00

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Re: What do you anticipate in Jessie?

^ I get the impression that Debian is being more aggressive with their "fix it or lose it" policy than they were with Waldorf and Squeeze, so I'd expect them to opt for a smaller package list over a later release date.

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#7 2015-04-10 20:14:03

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Re: What do you anticipate in Jessie?

^Yes I get that impression too. Although 2013 seems so far away now smile

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#8 2015-04-13 19:11:57

KrunchTime
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Re: What do you anticipate in Jessie?

Why am I upgrading?  Because it's shiny new stuff and will better support my new hardware.  big_smile

Rainlendar2 doesn't currently work under Jessie because of the missing libjpeg8 package which was pulled by Debian developers in January.  I hope somehow this gets fixed before Jessie goes stable.  I'll be lost without Rainlendar2 to manage my events and to do list.

20140417-01 edit:  The missing libjpeg8 package also impacts wineWine will work without the package, but not as well based on my experience so far.

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#9 2015-04-14 00:32:06

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Re: What do you anticipate in Jessie?

I am not upgrading to Jessie. It has a newer version of tmux, with <prefix-z> to make a pane full screen, but I already have this from backports. Jessie loses epdfview, and I like epdfview. So I will stick with wheezy as oldstable for as long as I can. All my old hardware is completely supported by wheezy. I have other reasons (none of them involving systemd) but tl;dr.

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#10 2015-04-14 08:57:04

KrunchTime
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Re: What do you anticipate in Jessie?

@porkpiehat:  Couldn't you install/compile epdfview from the developer site?  Hmmm...I just tried to access the developer site and got an error.  There are other lightweight PDF viewers.  antiX uses one called mupdf and it's in the Debian repos.


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#11 2015-04-14 13:12:55

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Re: What do you anticipate in Jessie?

I use mupdf on my sid boxes, and I like it. Yes, I could probably build epdfview on sid.

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#12 2015-04-14 14:14:53

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Re: What do you anticipate in Jessie?

Edging towards feature completeness in all the applications I use... things get shinier, stuff gets more polished. Like the Jessie Libreoffice package for example looks way way better than the wheezy one. I think it's just polished more carefully, but stuff like that has a big impact on my happiness while computing.

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#13 2015-04-15 00:38:13

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Re: What do you anticipate in Jessie?

tknomanzr wrote:

I have been crossing my fingers that Live Build's with UEFI support will make it in before Jessie goes stable.

That's my wish too. Having to tell people how to convert it post-install isn't exactly a selling point in 2015. But hey, who needs to do a official release. I'm scared enough by the fact that 192 have downloaded one of my tweak-beta-images, and a few have downloaded the waldorf-jessie remaster also. Obviously I'm big in Japan, as 20% of my downloaders resides there. Now it's only the groupies that are missing lol

Anyway, I really would like to be able to include proper uefi-support in those images when Jessie goes stable, together with a few other changes. But I refuse to do a new build without uefi-support. So now it's the waiting game. If it doesn't make it into LB for Jessie, then I could be forced to take a look at Refracta. But I don't think it's fully in place there either.

Well, off I go to another project. This time I will do a Debian-Jessie LXDE remaster. Have a few ideas for a unique UI that I have to try out. Maybe it turns out to be great. Maybe not. But it will kill a little bit of the wait for Jessie to go stable smile


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#14 2015-04-15 00:41:04

tknomanzr
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Re: What do you anticipate in Jessie?

Let me get back to you on this. I have a bookmark from Kali LInux forums stashed away somewhere regarding how to set it up. One thing and another has prevented me from testing it out and in fact I had already forgotten about it. Thanks for the reminder. tongue

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#15 2015-04-15 01:16:06

KrunchTime
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Re: What do you anticipate in Jessie?

porkpiehat wrote:

I use mupdf on my sid boxes, and I like it. Yes, I could probably build epdfview on sid.

I tried mupdf and it's too minimalistic for me.  There's also qpdfview, which is kind of nice and somewhat similar to epdfview.  I installed both epdfview and qpdfview on one of my computers this morning after researching PDF viewers based on your post.  There's also atril, a document viewer for the Mate desktop environment.  However, atril is kind of large (> 23mb), so I opted not to try it out.  I may try it out anyway to see what it's like.

20140415-01 edit:  Discovered that atril is a fork of evince, a document viewer for Gnome and also used in CrunchBang by default.

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#16 2015-04-15 17:21:41

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Re: What do you anticipate in Jessie?

tknomanzr wrote:

Let me get back to you on this. I have a bookmark from Kali LInux forums stashed away somewhere regarding how to set it up. One thing and another has prevented me from testing it out and in fact I had already forgotten about it. Thanks for the reminder. tongue

Sure. Let me know how you do with it. I'm very interested indeed smile


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#17 2015-04-15 19:19:02

vrkalak
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Registered: 2009-09-14
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Re: What do you anticipate in Jessie?

Debian-8 is set to released as stable on Apr 27, 2015


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