I started using #! just over a year ago as a new Linux user, and I was immediately obsessed. While the standard advice for new users is to start with something like Mint or Ubuntu, I wanted to install Linux on an older computer in order to learn a bit. I was also fed up with the lack of control that I have in my professional life as a Mac user. Crunchbang--pared-down, easily customized, and graceful—was exactly what I was looking for. The kind and helpful forums made it possible. Thanks to corenominal and to everyone who has provided useful information here. I'll be looking for Sparkle Dancer down the road!
^ For now, it looks like the latest "working title" is "DEbarchery". (Portmanteau of Debian, Arch, debauchery, and Desktop Environment.) As a working title, it is of course subject to change.
I still like the ST: PII reference of "sparkle dancer", and how it ties in with Denise Crosby's various characters...and with the Kirk family's orientations. 8o (A major plot point of "Fire and Blood" was Peter Kirk's boyfriend/fiancee having a bridge dropped on him.)
While I've already given my thanks to Philip earlier in this thread, I can't believe I forgot to extend that thanks to the community. This was, when it began, and has continued to be, one of the nicest, most helpful Linux communities around--back in the mid 2000's when it started, that was more unusual than it is now. There are many times when, even with a completely different system, and sometimes a different OS (one of the BSDs) I would be helped by these forums, and still frequently look at the 30 Window Managers in 30 days thread. http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=18273
So thank you #!Crunchbang community. It wouldn't surprise me if you inspired some of the other communities to be nicer and more helpful than they were at the time. I remember suggesting users on other forums ask openbox questions here, for example.
Hmmm, but now I'm confused (and a bit intimidated by the Arch reference). Plus, no Trek angle. But I'll show up and check out anything that seems to be a #! successor! Thanks.
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this about the systemd thing isnt it?
even the ignorant guru has also gone over to where ever all of the precious electronic elves go when they leaves us here all alone and un-updated in the middle of cyberterra with the evil spy agencies lurking over the scenery
we must carry the precious torch to md syste and burn it down to defeat all of the evil of melkor so some kind of special and plot-significant bird can rise forthwith from the ashes and begin to sing some updated warez into existence like the ainur of eru ilúvatar
read this before trying to helpme because it will probably help the both of us by filling two birds with one bone alternatively
No value????????? Every time I wake up each morning I start the computer and bless the universe that Crunchbang runs on my computer. And I get that wonderful feeling of efficiency every time I close my computer with the Windows+X combination. Smooth, silky, and above all, the system is MINE.
I have tried several distros as live-cd on my computer. Slitaz, Manjaro, Xubuntu, Fedora, Arch, Elementary etc. and I stuck to Crunchbang Linux.
My computer is a 486. Yes, that is right. A 486 with 2Gig of memory. And if I had the money, I would definitely buy a better one, but I haven't. But the things that I have been able to do because Crunchbang Linux runs so efficiently on my computer! I have edited SVG-files with Inkscape. I am able to run Blender with it. On a 486!
NO VALUE????????? I consider Crunchbang Linux my distribution and I am pissed!
I'm sad and angry. I hope you would turn over Crunchbang to some one else, some one who understands the important of "running light without overbyte". I sensed than was trouble when the last version would not find on a single CD.
I running on a 10 year computer with 512meg and it works. I moved to Crunchbang when Ubuntu would take longer than Windows to boot. I will upgrade this year, but damn it, I LOVE CRUNCHBANG!
Again, I ask that you find some else to take out development and maintance of Crunchbang. I regret I have not the skills needed.
I do appreciate you hardwork in the past. Let it not go to waste!
It is by caffeine alone that i set my mind in motion...
This is very sad news 8.( . Thank you Philip for Crunchbang. I started using it as a nOOb around about 18 months ago. As a distro, it has taught me so much. I shall remember Crunchbang as one of the finest and quiet possibly the most elegant distro put together. Again, many thanks and good luck with everything in your future .
"If you can't blind 'em with science, baffle 'em with bullshit".
Distros: Crunchbang 11 ""Waldorf" 64bit & Peppermint Five 64bit, Machine: Fujitsu-Siemens AMILO Notebook Li 3710, CPU: 2x Intel Pentium Dual CPU T3400 @ 2.16GHz, RAM: 4GB
You did good Philip. It's been an enjoyable ride the past few years. Crunchbang became something much more than just another Linux distribution. It was much more than the sum of its parts. You didn't just create a distro, but a community; a much more difficult task. I am thankful for your efforts, and those of the Crunchbang community.
Good Luck with your future endeavors. If I ever get the chance to visit the UK, I'll buy you and Becky a pint or two...
I have one doubt about near future.
Updating to Jessie from crunchbang will work without problems? I have no really problem with that because I work with more than one computer, but some family member I installed #! only work with one computer and some are living on another cities. So If there are problems I will help them on distance.
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I have one doubt about near future.
Updating to Jessie from crunchbang will work without problems?
No, there will be problems if you don't do a few essential things first. There have been a couple of posts in the last few days about ways to do it. Have a look here for instance
Briefly, you update/upgrade, then comment out the Crunchbang repos, and change the other repos to jessie, followed by update/dist-upgrade. Plus some other gotchas need to be addressed (see the link I noted)
Thanks for the help damo. I didn't notice those posts.
I will read them.
Not good news for us working users who have come to rely on the speed, power, stability, flexibility, configurability, good-looks, friendliness, and overall good taste of this, one of the all-time greatest fashionings of an operating system.
However, life goes on, and we grow and we go.
Here's truly hoping the genius that is Crunchbang can continue in another form. I don't want to have to ask for a refund.
This news make me feel a good friend died...
Starting my "virtual life" on a MacIntosh which felt "incompatible to the rest of the world" at this moment I wasted too many years on Windows systems. Even though I was always interested in using Linux all the live systems offered by magazines like Knoppix or Ubuntu let me feel like "uaahhh~" cause there were a lot of fundamental things that didn't work. Thanks God I hadn't enough money to upgrade my hardware in the last years and Win XP was running out of support so I was forced to switch to Linux.
Looking around on distrowatch there was CrunchBang - the Linux that "had me at hello"!
CrunchBang gave me a system running out of the box even on ancient hardware with a ~WOW~ look&feel without hiding from me what is important to know about a good operation system in time of mass surveillance and commercial big data: The fact that you have to learn how thinks are working if you want to be "master" (and not a slave) of your everyday-technology but without giving you the feeling being too stupid to use Linux.
CrunchBang and it's great community never let me alone with a problem (even if it was not related to crunchbang). @corenominal and @#!-community you made a system that educated me without frustrating me.
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Is there no possibility for a community-development? Or crowdfunded development? The most distributions I know running on aged hardware are Ubuntu-based (and Ubuntu went on the "dark side" in my opinion).
Well... I hope corenominal didn't get a certain letter from government because his distribution convinced too many people to switch to Linux.
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I will definitely miss Crunchbang and thank you Phil for all of your hard work. Crunchbang has been my go-to distro from the first day I used it. I know you feel it no longer holds value, but reliability and rock-solid performance go a long way in my book. #! and the black theme will sorely be missed. Thanks again Phil and I wish you luck.
Sad news. It took me a while to respond to this thread because I was really speachless. Anyways, I'm happy I found #! in time, I didn't see the point in a minimal envoirement before (because I actually didn't know how to configure) and #! opened my eyes 8) . I have learned a lot in these forums in the very short time I've been here, and it has been the home page in my default browsers since day one.
Nevertheless it's great to see there is already a group decided to keep the bang alive.
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"We don't merge kernel code just because user space was written by a retarded monkey on crack."
Linus f****g Trovalds
My distro hopping stopped when I found #!. As others have said, it is the perfect combination of getting all of the necessary things in order then getting out of your way, all within a polished aesthetic.
The forums were another success. All of my questions had been answered at length long before I even had the problem, with exhaustive guides for mpd, drivers and other issues I haven't yet encountered, but I know the posts will be there when I do.
Incredible work on all fronts, Philip. Thanks for everything.
Sad to see it go...Best underpinnings (Debian), best frontend (OpenBox), and the only way that I know of to get that pairing. And no matter how much I tried to get a generic install of OpenBox to work just as well, I always fell short.
Thanks for the journey!
The day the Crunch stood still.
Mr. Corenominal, thank you so much for the wonderful past releases.
pvsage, if you need web storage or a site, I'd be honored to host it (or even a new crunch repo if the current one will be shutting down?).
At the very least, I'd love to continue to use the cb-metapackage and contribute to the community.
Now powered by #!++, a #! revival project on Debian Jessie.
From what I've been seeing, looks like the spirit of #! now lives in Archbang, for those who are also familiar with Arch.
I registered only for posting this.
I'll miss this distro a lot, it is perfect for virtual machines.
Thanks for your efforts.
I was very disappointed to see that CrunchBang is finally ending. Although I have been running Linux systems since around 2001, I was delighted to discover #! in 2009 as I found it to be an incredible distro. It manages to combine full-functionality with low system requirements and this made it ideal for my older and/or low powered machines.
Since then, my #! installs do everything I want, have never let me down and have been totally reliable, which is a great tribute to corenominal's design decisions.
On this basis, I do have to disagree with Philip that "it no longer holds any value", as it is such a hard act to follow! Yes, we can have "vanilla Debian" but we have all been spoilt by the delicious flavour of CrunchBang.
However, I do appreciate that Waldorf cannot go on for ever and that it's intended replacement, Janice, would have required very substantial work by Philip. I do understand that the negative impact of this on family life is difficult to justify and I guess this is part of his decision to drop #!.
So, I simply want to thank both Philip and Becky for all they have done to produce and maintain what will go down in history as one of the greatest Linux distros. My appreciation also goes to the forum moderators who have done such a great job of keeping things on track.
I do hope that a worthy successor to CrunchBang, with similar objectives (stable, fully-featured and lightweight), can come out of this. I am sure there are sufficient clever folk in our community who can do this and so I will watch future developments with great interest.
Watch at your peril
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For me, crunchbang has always been the single distro that gets theming right. You installed it and it looked awesome out of the box. No bloat, no clutter, just the ideal mix.
Everytime I install anything else, I typically rip out the carpet and start changing everything right away. And most of the times, I end up with something that looks like crunchbang...
A big thanks to corenominal for all the good work and good luck with your next pet projects. May they be as successfull as crunchbang!