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^ I guess that's just a matter of personal experience. The first computer my grandparents got was ME, & I experienced my very first blue screen of my life within literally hours of it first being turned on. It scarred me for life
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@luc I don't use windows. My wife uses it for coupons because they require it.
Just so you know, with in 1 week of getting the laptop I put 4 distros on it.
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Windows XP. Never saw a BSOD and still has 16bit application support.
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^ Yep. XP was definitely the last 'good' Windows. The only blue screens I've experienced with it were from this one game I liked that wound up crashing the whole system semi-regularly, & from when Micro$oft Security Essentials lapsed an update of virus definitions, resulting in my being infected with all sorts of internet nastiness.
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At this time, I think Windows 7 is the best Windows version. However, after recently purchasing a new computer that comes with Windows 8.1, I'm finding myself less hostile to it. It did seem to take too long to boot and shutdown on my AIO though. That might have been due to stuff running in the background.
I don't care, though. I've already blown away the partitioning scheme and have made preparations for installing CrunchBang and antiX. I'll attempt to run Windows 8.1 in a VM. Hurry up Amazon and ship that Logitech wired keyboard!
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Windows 8 takes me 10+ minutes to boot depending on how long it has been since my last boot and how many different things it has to update. I have seen it take 15+ minutes. So much crap to load just to keep it safe and make it act halfway like a desktop. I pulled the plug on it a month ago or so and haven't really missed it. I haven't wiped the drive yet, just in case I need to do some Adobe stuff but so far I haven't. If Adobe would just give me Adobe CC for Linux I would be one happy camper.
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^ Yep. XP was definitely the last 'good' Windows. The only blue screens I've experienced with it were from this one game I liked that wound up crashing the whole system semi-regularly, & from when Micro$oft Security Essentials lapsed an update of virus definitions, resulting in my being infected with all sorts of internet nastiness.
Now that you mention games, I remember that I do have one game (Far Cry) that used to BSOD when loading save data. There was a patch for it, though, so it turned out okay.
Windows 8 takes me 10+ minutes to boot depending on how long it has been since my last boot and how many different things it has to update. I have seen it take 15+ minutes. So much crap to load just to keep it safe and make it act halfway like a desktop. I pulled the plug on it a month ago or so and haven't really missed it. I haven't wiped the drive yet, just in case I need to do some Adobe stuff but so far I haven't. If Adobe would just give me Adobe CC for Linux I would be one happy camper.
Holy crap, 15 minutes? Maybe I'll stick around on XP/7 for a little while longer then. That sounds like it'd be painful to dual-boot. Maybe an SSD could help.
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^ With an SSD, Win 8 boots in 10 secs here... Don't know how "so much crap" can keep anything safe.
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Holy crap, 15 minutes? Maybe I'll stick around on XP/7 for a little while longer then. That sounds like it'd be painful to dual-boot. Maybe an SSD could help.
As a pleased-as-punch 8. user, I can tell you that a boot like that on any commercially available OS on the face of the earth is less OS and more PEBCAK. My 8 install boots to desktop and idle drives in under two minutes. That's with Dropbox, Battle.net, Copy(like Dropbox), Curse and Steam starting on boot. I can use it just fine before idle drives, however, which takes just over 30 seconds.
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Must say, in my experience it's 7 (which I'm going to run for as lang as possible on my game machine) and then as close second 98...first OS in my life and the one that I never quite messed up totally despite playing with it.
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#!_828 wrote:^ Yep. XP was definitely the last 'good' Windows. The only blue screens I've experienced with it were from this one game I liked that wound up crashing the whole system semi-regularly, & from when Micro$oft Security Essentials lapsed an update of virus definitions, resulting in my being infected with all sorts of internet nastiness.
Now that you mention games, I remember that I do have one game (Far Cry) that used to BSOD when loading save data. There was a patch for it, though, so it turned out okay.
tknomanzr wrote:Windows 8 takes me 10+ minutes to boot depending on how long it has been since my last boot and how many different things it has to update. I have seen it take 15+ minutes. So much crap to load just to keep it safe and make it act halfway like a desktop. I pulled the plug on it a month ago or so and haven't really missed it. I haven't wiped the drive yet, just in case I need to do some Adobe stuff but so far I haven't. If Adobe would just give me Adobe CC for Linux I would be one happy camper.
Holy crap, 15 minutes? Maybe I'll stick around on XP/7 for a little while longer then. That sounds like it'd be painful to dual-boot. Maybe an SSD could help.
Yeah and that's quad core i3 with 6 gigs ram. It's insane.
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Intel Core i7-5960X Haswell-E 8-Core 3.0GHz LGA 2011-v3 140W Desktop Processor BX80648I75960X bet this would fire up Win8 - like - yesterday!
Someone got $1050 they don't need so I can try it? ]:D
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^ Assuming it would even run at all. Until #!'s kernel get's updated, it won't be running ANY new hardware like that... ]:D
at least not easily O:)
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I find Windows 8 the least objectionable overall. Although I'd say there is little practical difference between Vista, 7 and 8.
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Thanks for this info. Strangley lscpu reports 4 cores. This is the only command I have found that actually shows the two cpu's.
cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'core id'
produces this output:
core id : 0
core id : 0
core id : 1
core id : 1
instead of the regular 0, 1, 2, 3. Therefore I was confuzzled because I did actually think this thing had two processors when I bought it for my sister awhile back. When she gave it back to me and I put linux on it, lscpu showed me 4 so I figured i had forgotten what I bought.
To be fair Windows 8 boots so dang slow because I usually boot it about once a month and it ends up with a ton of stuff to update.
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rest assured it's still only 2 cores, it's just hyperthreaded, which explains the 4 threads.
output of mine:
core id : 0
core id : 1
core id : 2
core id : 3
core id : 0
core id : 1
core id : 2
core id : 3
and no this isn't an 8-core, still a quad-core! O:)
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^ Assuming it would even run at all. Until #!'s kernel get's updated, it won't be running ANY new hardware like that... ]:D
at least not easily O:)
Kernel in the Backports repo is at 3.16x. Would that still not run on newer hardware?
With an SSD, Win 8 boots in 10 secs here...
Yeah, I noticed a big difference running Windows 8.1 on my new ASUS Zenbook (SSD), versus my new ASUS AIO (7200rpm HDD).
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CSCoder4ever wrote:^ Assuming it would even run at all. Until #!'s kernel get's updated, it won't be running ANY new hardware like that... ]:D
at least not easily O:)
Kernel in the Backports repo is at 3.16x. Would that still not run on newer hardware?
assuming the 3.2x kernel would play nice with the hardware until you were able to install that version.
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^ Assuming it would even run at all. Until #!'s kernel get's updated, it won't be running ANY new hardware like that... ]:D
at least not easily O:)
I knew that but imagining "someone actually putting up 1050" for me to try it there a little push in the imagination that it works.
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This brings back memories.
A few years ago I would still remember the password for MS Win 98SE )
I have used MS Win 95, 98, ME, 2000, XP, 7even and 8 (albeit the last on my phone so I guess it does not count).
For me 7even is the best for casual use and in terms of stability and dependability (but as I have read and agree to it is a matter of personal experience) I would rate it a solid 7 (such a coincidence) which is very high.
Anyway as I have stated, I am a dualbooter myself and use #! with Win 7 (for certain reasons both business and pleasure) so to each his own.
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