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#3326 2014-11-29 11:05:30

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

I've managed to get the battery life in Windows 10 extended to about the same as my GNU/Linux installs -- you just have to turn off Windows Defender and the desktop is instantly more responsive with a 50% increase in battery life.

So as long as you don't mind the malware...
hmm

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#3327 2014-11-29 11:47:26

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

^ Yep, you do need some anti-virus thingy on Windows. At least if you do online-banking ... otherwise you'll get blamed negligence in court (and won't get your hacked money back).  lol  lol  roll

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#3328 2014-11-29 11:55:10

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

^ On-line banking is always done from the live environment  O:)

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#3329 2014-11-29 12:02:53

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Ahhhhhhhhhhh Windows - anti-virus stuff ...

Comodo <-- that's what I used to use ... been a LONG time.

However I see now maybe not the best.
Panda Free Antivirus 2015 looks good.


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#3330 2014-11-29 12:04:37

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

^ Excellent link S11 -- thank you! smile

EDIT: I'm just going to leave it open though and see what I get... ]:D

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#3331 2014-11-29 12:11:59

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

^ On a more serious note, as long as you crank up UAC and add software restrictions, you should be fine:

https://translate.google.com/translate? … t=&act=url

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#3332 2014-11-29 12:15:39

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

@ Head_on_a_Stick
OMG! ... you're a "Crashed System" looking for a time and place to happen!


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#3333 2014-11-29 13:19:39

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Sector11 wrote:

Ahhhhhhhhhhh Windows - anti-virus stuff ...

Comodo <-- that's what I used to use ... been a LONG time.

However I see now maybe not the best.
Panda Free Antivirus 2015 looks good.

I liked Kaspersky myself.  However, I only use Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes on my virtual instances now.  I probably don't even need those since my only internet travels under Windows in a VM is for Windows Updates and a few in-program updates.


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#3334 2014-11-29 20:02:11

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

2014_11_29_200054_1024x768_scrot.jpg
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#3335 2014-11-30 06:31:43

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Arch finally broke on me... more or less completely. Also mysteriously and completely out of nowhere. I did run an Syu about an hour before I rebooted (I run it every day), and it resulted in about 24 MBs of updates. The most critical update looked to be libsystemd, but there wasn't a kernel upgrade. Nevertheless, rebooting resulted in a kernel panic. When I chrooted in from the Arch CD and tried to run pacman, I got shared library errors (Too short. libexpat.so, I believe). Obviously, some kind of corruption. I had a similar issue with corrupted libraries right after I set up the system. Had to reinstall pango and gtkmm and a few other things that had somehow gotten corrupted (right after I initially installed them).

I've never had this happen before, and I really hope it's not the hard drive in the laptop already failing on me. But how else do files just suddenly get corrupted out of nowhere?


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#3336 2014-11-30 08:57:19

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Guess the worst things I've had on my Gentoo install were circular dependencies and multiple packages trying to fit in one slot. However, there was this one time that I discovered that somehow I had sys-fs/udev installed, instead of sys-fs/eudev... Took me a while to get rid of it (systemd was already masked, added udev afterwards to make sure it stayed to this one time) and decided to do a kernel update in the same run. With the system being a triple boot, containing Windows 7 - Crunchbang Waldorf (Sid based, highly unstable) - Gentoo, the grub install was done from the Waldorf (on sdb) to sda (the ssd selected in the BIOS to boot from); Gentoo, being the 'most recent installed' system, had it's own grub(2) config which was being chainloaded from the Waldorf grub install. So to successfully restart the system after the kernel update was, in short, a hell. I can't remember the full story, but it went like this:

Grub -> Waldorf -> Wrong kernel -> Unable to load modules -> restart Waldorf -> Correct kernel -> update Grub -> restart -> Gentoo -> failure to find kernel -> restart -> Waldorf -> Edit grub config -> restart -> Gentoo -> failure to find kernel -> [...] -> Gentoo -> Kernel panic -> restart -> Gentoo minimal disc -> chroot into Gentoo install -> compare backup config with new kernel config -> recompile kernel -> recompile modules -> genkernel initramfs -> make sure all files are copied to the right place -> restart -> Gentoo -> Kernel panic -> [...] -> Waldorf -> review grub config -> Fix typo and load correct kernel, instead of the malformed one which I still have to remove -> restart -> Gentoo -> successful boot -> back in a running system, however no wifi -> Remember note about changed network names under udev 208 something update -> review udev config -> change 1 param -> restart -> Gentoo -> X working, wifi working and no sys-fs/udev 'artefacts' or systemd bullshit.

That 'joke' cost me about 4 hours of my time... started from the first restart of the system. The update process, kernel update and sys-fs/udev -> sys-fs/eudev was about 7 hours...


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#3337 2014-11-30 10:54:47

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

jdonaghy wrote:

Arch finally broke on me... more or less completely. Also mysteriously and completely out of nowhere. I did run an Syu about an hour before I rebooted (I run it every day), and it resulted in about 24 MBs of updates. The most critical update looked to be libsystemd, but there wasn't a kernel upgrade. Nevertheless, rebooting resulted in a kernel panic. When I chrooted in from the Arch CD and tried to run pacman, I got shared library errors (Too short. libexpat.so, I believe). Obviously, some kind of corruption. I had a similar issue with corrupted libraries right after I set up the system. Had to reinstall pango and gtkmm and a few other things that had somehow gotten corrupted (right after I initially installed them).

I've never had this happen before, and I really hope it's not the hard drive in the laptop already failing on me. But how else do files just suddenly get corrupted out of nowhere?

Have you disabled "Fast Startup" in Windows 8.1?
http://winaero.com/blog/how-to-disable- … ndows-8-1/
It causes corruption in other partitions...

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#3338 2014-11-30 18:19:41

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

^ I wiped 8.1 completely a good while ago.  wink

Decided to install Elementary despite these issues, and it is AWESOME. Really digging the simple interface. Pretty snappy, too. I am about to run the smart tools on the drive to see what they detect.

Oh yeah... Only issue with Elementary is that it's not detecting my external monitor (like.. at all).

It wasn't detected OOTB with the Crunchbang kernel, either, but I figured this one would be new enough...

EDIT: Grabbed kernel 3.13. Still no detection... And then 3.17.. No detection. Now I'm confused.

And now things are getting odder. I tighened the cable, and now I do get a duplicated display the size of the laptop's screen on the external, but xrandr still isn't detecting it.

Last edited by jdonaghy (2014-11-30 20:18:07)


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#3339 2014-12-01 08:30:02

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Release announcement for preview of Semplice 7

http://semplice-linux.org/community/vie … php?id=823


Time to move on!#

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#3340 2014-12-01 15:23:39

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

^ I almost had it, last night, and then the download decided to "finish" prematurely with about 100 MBs to go. I hate when that sort of thing happens.


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#3341 2014-12-03 15:23:19

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Just out of curiosity, has anyone tried Devuan yet?  8o


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#3342 2014-12-03 18:22:13

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Void live 'flavours' available  cool

Void live with Enlightenment (E19)
Void live with MATE
Void live with XFCE

http://www.voidlinux.eu/#news

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#3343 2014-12-03 21:01:10

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

chameleon wrote:

Void live 'flavours' available  cool
Void live with Enlightenment (E19)
Void live with MATE
Void live with XFCE
http://www.voidlinux.eu/#news

AAAARGH ! Why did you have to show us (the forum users) that....
Now i want to download that....


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#3344 2014-12-03 21:07:39

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

lol But I wouldn't be surprised if jdonaghy beat you to it.  ]:D


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#3345 2014-12-03 21:20:59

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

g33zr wrote:

lol But I wouldn't be surprised if jdonaghy beat you to it.  ]:D

lol haha. Well it might have to wait, but that urge ! tongue


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#3346 2014-12-03 23:27:32

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

I'm grabbing the MATE version at the moment, but at a relatively slow speed. 34 minutes remaining.


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#3347 2014-12-04 02:30:25

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

^ I got it. Pretty nice. Only issue was that the grub install failed for some reason during the setup. After it was done, I had to chroot in myself, install the grub package, and configure it. Nm-applet is there, as well as a battery icon. Sound works OOTB. It's pretty stripped down in other ways (had to install unzip, for example). Worth a try, for sure.

Installed browser is Firefox, BTW.

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#3348 2014-12-04 09:28:32

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

I'm giving SparkyLinux a try.  I want to have an alternative in case something ever happens to CrunchBang.  I've installed Sparky on my ASUS laptop without incident, but so far have been unsuccessful at installing it on my Dell Studio 1557 laptop.  There's some kind of issue(s) with the GUI installer and the command line installer doesn't work with GPT discs.  I think I turned my hard drive into a GPT disc when I played around with Antergos a few weeks ago.


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#3349 2014-12-04 09:44:58

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

KrunchTime wrote:

I'm giving SparkyLinux a try.  I want to have an alternative in case something ever happens to CrunchBang.

Well that is the defeniton of fear itself!  wink I am playing around with a vanilla install of  Debian Lxde Jessie, getting myself acquainted with the Openbox session there and toying with what is my minimal requirements to my personal liking. Just love the default desktop of it  big_smile + get to have a look at the default Lxde desktop.


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#3350 2014-12-04 12:33:19

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Yea I'll say, if #! goes CRUNCH BANG I don't think a Linux version that's full of sparks would instill confidence ...  lol  lol  lol

Who let the smoke out?


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