I am new to #! but not to Linux, I started using Linux for servers (mail, Spam catchers, Firewalls...) back in the late 1990s, in 2002 I deployed SUSE Desktop on the factory floor of the company I worked for ( Astromec Inc. a Fractional Horse Power PMDC motor manufacturer), I learned enough to keep them running for data entry and collection (Open Office), I also found that Linux made a more reliable platform for Windows Terminal Server clients than any of the thin clients I could buy at the time.
But I kept using Windows for my personal computers until I got totally feed up with the malware problems and needed stable computers to run my business (www.bltg.us , now closed due to the doctors making me quit working). In 2007 I started using Ubuntu and loved it. But as I have found with most operating systems the new version is always more hardware hungry than the last.... Then when Ubuntu decided in it's Great Wisdom to make "Unity" the default GUI, I started looking again, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Lubuntu and others.... But all were more hardware hungry and bloated than I wanted. I like eye candy as much as the next geek but sometimes you just need a stable, solid, NO BS work horse to get things done. I also wanted to find a Distro that would work on the desktops from the early 2000's, lots of perfectly good desktops & all to many Laptops, got set aside because they could not keep up with the latest bloatware... Now that Microsoft is finally going to let XP Die the death it should have had 5 years ago, I see lots of folks who are asking what to do.... Many of the folks out here in the Ozarks are not that well off, many are retired and they do not have bags of cash laying around to buy the latest mistake out of Redmond (W8 looks like the best mistake MS has made yet...Bigger than W-Me)
I ran across #! when doing a Google search for the best light weight Linux Distro's and I was skeptical at best when I read the things they had to say about Crunch Bang, a Disrto, controlled by one man, no commercial side.... and folks are talking about it like the Second Coming! (sorry but the Hillbilly get out from time to time). So I went about looking up what "Non-PAE" meant... Darn I had forgot about computers that old back around 2K.... Got the ISO and rolled up a Compaq Turion 64 laptop with 768 mb ram... wiped the dust of the hard drive and Loaded her up.... WOW! it works!!!! it works good, I can run an "Office" app (doc & Spreadsheet) have a Modern Browser running (with 10-15 tabs open....yea I got some real bad habits!) and this Door Stop Compaq Laptop runs like a dream... I got this laptop from a Doctor customer of mine when she cleaned out the closets after the Kids were all done with school. She asked if I would come by and pick up some old computers, I tell all my customers never throw out a computer, call me and I will get rid of it for you the right way, clean the old data, keep the working stuff out of the landfill and recycle the batteries, make sure the CRT's stay out of dump. So I get to her house and she points at a stack of 8 (yep 8 ) laptops, an I-Mac, 3 Apple Wifi routers (one a 1tb time machine or what ever Apple calls them, worst routers ever made as far as I am concerned). I have been using this pile as a parts bin for folks who need parts and can not afford new stuff. Now with Crunch Bang I have so far built 4 good working laptops. Laptops that work good enough that I am using one by choice!
I do wish Crunch Bang had an automated security patching system and something like a software center that windows users could grasp without to much effort. I wish I had the skills to provide these features... However I am still struggling to figure it all out for myself. As I have gotten older and have health problems that require me to take the kind of drugs I wish I could have gotten when I was 19 or 20 and mostly stupid (LOL) , I now find it is much harder to remember the Command Line Syntax (along with all the switches) that I could so easily grasp and memorize when I was only 40Yr Old or so..... To the credit of Crunch Bang users I have found well written solutions and HowTo's for most of my "Needs"... Still working on the "Wants" and will try hard to live up to the High Standards I have seen in this community.
So far I have given one away to a 62Yr Old Grandmother raising a grandchild alone, so she no longer has to worry about her 6 Yr old granddaughter from looking for pony's and getting Porn....
I have replaced a power hungry server I was using in my Art Studio to keep Lapidary and Metal Working data on, dropped the Light bill by $9 a month! (Anyone need a Quad CPU Dell Power Edge 6400 with 3 Power Supplies and 4 GB of Ram?)
In Closing THANK YOU!!! Crunch Bang users! This is the most respectful well mannered Linux community I have seen to date and you guys have built the most solid, well mannered, Tight Linux Distro I have ever seen that had a GUI of any type. I am not sure why you did it but I wanted you to know what effect you were having on the lives of some of our 99%...
In OLD Salt speak Bravo Zulu! #! Job Well Done!
Bonner Donna Marie Sawyer
Somewhere on Posy Mtn.
North Beaver Lake Arkansas
Aw shucks. It's a pleasure makin' your acquaintance, FieroDiva!
From what I understand, Philip (corenominal) made CrunchBang originally as his own personal (originally) Ubuntu remix, then he made the mistake of making a Live CD image and posting it online. Its initial popularity caught him totally off guard!
As for the community, well...I see these people here as family.
Last edited by hinto (2013-07-17 17:00:35)
Howdy neighbor! Glad to have y'all here.
Welcome to the Crunchbang family FieroDiva. It's a pleasure to have you with us.
I'm not sure how closely you've explored it, but Synaptic package manager is a GUI front-end to aptitude/apt-get and provides an easier way for newer users to browse software. It's packaged in #! by default, so if you haven't explored that option, you may like it. I still would suggest trying to learn apt, as it is more powerful as your experience with the command line grows.
Last edited by DebianJoe (2013-07-17 19:28:23)
Welcome aboard FieroDiva.
Had set this one aside for later, and have to say: inspiring I'm sure Philip'll like it as well, if he ever gets to read it
Note: There are not separate security-packages on this OS, as it doesn't need them. Security-issues are tackled within the package that has them. As long as you keep up-to-date with your packages, you should be solid. Automating it should be fairly easy by using cron on the root-account, although I would advice strongly against that. There are some other options though, I would opt for a menu-entry linking to a script or something.
Enjoy the scenery!
Last edited by KrunchTime (2013-07-18 06:30:15)
What a great intro! It was a lot of fun to read! Glad to see I'm not the only techno fossil living in the 'Bush', as the NZ and Aussies say, on the fringes of the Great Society, who repurposes 'things' that the herd tosses into a massive bone pile of electronic detritus because, well, it's not the latest! Who are the Jones? And why do I need to keep up with them? I also am new to CB, or #!, which requires me to look at the KB through my bifocals, so CB will do for me, but I also liked the replies from other members of this community. Very classy in the original sense of the term!
Welcome!, Have Fun!
Necros, you gotta love them sometimes
Thanks for a great story and welcome
With thanks to the creators of #! - OMV - OSMC - Debian
Nobody bothered to look at the date?
It was still a great story!
With thanks to the creators of #! - OMV - OSMC - Debian
Wow! I was taken aback to say the least to see posts coming in from my intro! To update everyone on my #! Adventure, I am still using and installing Crunch Bang on outdated laptops. I found a script to take care of the update menu item I was concerned about. I have found that most casual users "forget" to use an update menu item, so I used the recommendation I got from one of the responses to my intro on this forum to automate the updates.
I don't post much on any forums, because I do not often have much to add on any discussion on how to support Linux. So I decided long ago that unless I could help, it would be better to keep the clutter down.
I still think that as a distro Crunch Bang is the best workhorse I have every found. Even if it was released as unexpected result of one person just trying to build the tool he wanted. The Crunch Bang family shows the best of what "Open Source" was meant to be.
Thanks Everyone! Donna Marie aka "Firodiva"
Hi, nice intro update.
Time to move on!#
Well then, I guess what I should is...
Hello there FieroDiva! Keep on enjoying the incredible #! distro!