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#1 2014-04-26 11:46:08

iMBeCil
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From: Edrychwch o'ch cwmpas
Registered: 2012-03-22
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too many upgrades?

Whoah ...

Yesterday: zero upgrades.

Today:

$ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
... [cut] ...
The following packages will be upgraded:
  base-files catfish gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad intel-microcode
  libgl1-nvidia-alternatives libgl1-nvidia-glx libglx-nvidia-alternatives
  libgstreamer-plugins-bad0.10-0 liblcms2-2 liblcms2-dev libsmbclient
  libsnmp-base libsnmp15 libsoup-gnome2.4-1 libsoup2.4-1 libwbclient0 libxml2
  libxml2-dev libxml2-utils libxvmcnvidia1 linux-headers-3.2.0-4-686-pae
  linux-headers-3.2.0-4-common linux-image-3.2.0-4-686-pae linux-libc-dev
  nvidia-alternative nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-vdpau-driver
  python-libxml2 samba-common samba-common-bin smbclient tzdata tzdata-java
  xserver-xorg-video-nvidia
35 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 68.8 MB of archives.
After this operation, 532 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?

Debian had 'programming happy night' ?

Backing-up the system before upgrading ... Will let you know what happened (for those interested).

Last edited by iMBeCil (2014-04-26 12:09:43)


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#2 2014-04-26 11:58:18

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Re: too many upgrades?

I get this every other day in Arch...
Should be fine --- its Debian big_smile

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#3 2014-04-26 12:09:31

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Re: too many upgrades?

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Should be fine --- its Debian big_smile

Indeed, I seem to be fine (just rebooted).

Am I the only one facing 35 or more updates in 24 hours?


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#4 2014-04-26 12:15:35

twoion
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Registered: 2012-05-11
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Re: too many upgrades?

  • It's the weekend!

  • You never ran unstable or experimental, otherwise you wouldn't be surprised.

Bonus: the last week of pending upgrades on my Sid box :-D

NOTE: This is only a simulation!
      apt-get needs root privileges for real execution.
      Keep also in mind that locking is deactivated,
      so don't depend on the relevance to the real current situation!
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libplrpc-perl librtmp0:i386
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  gir1.2-atspi-2.0 libaqbanking34-plugins libaqebics0 libaqhbci22
  libaqofxconnect7 libatspi2.0-dev libghc-scientific-dev
  libghc-scientific-prof librtmp1:i386 libxmlsec1 libxmlsec1-gcrypt
  libxmlsec1-gnutls libxtst-dev linux-headers-3.13-11.dmz.2-liquorix-amd64
  linux-image-3.13-11.dmz.2-liquorix-amd64 x11proto-record-dev
The following packages have been kept back:
  fontconfig fontconfig-config gjiten libfontconfig1 libfontconfig1:i386
  libfontconfig1-dev libfreetype6 libfreetype6:i386 libfreetype6-dev
The following packages will be upgraded:
  aspell-de bash browser-plugin-gnash btrfs-tools cpp-4.8 curl debconf
  debconf-i18n debconf-utils dictionaries-common dpkg dpkg-dev dropbox
  exactimage f2fs-tools findutils fonts-opensymbol g++-4.8 gawk gcc-4.8
  gcc-4.8-base gcc-4.8-base:i386 gcc-4.9-base gcc-4.9-base:i386
  gir1.2-gdkpixbuf-2.0 gir1.2-vte-2.90 git git-man gitk gnash gnash-common
  gnucash gnucash-common graphviz gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad guile-2.0
  guile-2.0-libs ircd-hybrid klibc-utils libapache2-mod-php5 libaqbanking-data
  libaqbanking34 libasan0 libasn1-8-heimdal libatk-bridge2.0-0
  libatk-bridge2.0-dev libatomic1 libatspi2.0-0 libav-tools libavcodec-dev
  libavcodec54 libavdevice-dev libavdevice53 libavfilter3 libavformat-dev
  libavformat54 libavresample-dev libavresample1 libavutil-dev libavutil52
  libbcel-java libcdt4 libcgraph5 libck-connector-dev libck-connector0
  libcurl3 libcurl3:i386 libcurl3-gnutls libcurl4-openssl-dev libdbi-perl
  libdpkg-perl libdw1 libelf1 libelf1:i386 libgcc-4.8-dev libgcc1 libgcc1:i386
  libgcj14 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0:i386 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-common
  libgdk-pixbuf2.0-dev libgfortran3 libghc-aeson-dev libghc-aeson-doc
  libghc-aeson-prof libghc-attoparsec-conduit-dev
  libghc-attoparsec-conduit-prof libghc-conduit-dev libghc-conduit-prof
  libghc-csv-conduit-dev libghc-csv-conduit-prof libghc-hstringtemplate-dev
  libghc-hstringtemplate-prof libghc-pandoc-types-dev libghc-pandoc-types-prof
  libghc-semigroups-dev libghc-semigroups-prof libghc-void-dev
  libghc-void-prof libghc-yaml-dev libghc-yaml-doc libghc-yaml-prof libgomp1
  libgraph4 libgraphicsmagick++3 libgraphicsmagick3 libgssapi3-heimdal
  libgstreamer-plugins-bad0.10-0 libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0
  libgstreamer1.0-0 libgvc5 libgvpr1 libgwengui-gtk2-0 libgwenhywfar-data
  libgwenhywfar60 libhcrypto4-heimdal libhdb9-heimdal libheimbase1-heimdal
  libheimntlm0-heimdal libhx509-5-heimdal libitm1 libjbig-dev libjbig0
  libjbig0:i386 libkdc2-heimdal libklibc libkml0 libkrb5-26-heimdal
  libmupdf-dev libntdb1 libntlm0 libpathplan4 libpcre3 libpcre3:i386
  libpcre3-dev libpcrecpp0 libquadmath0 libreoffice-base libreoffice-base-core
  libreoffice-calc libreoffice-common libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw
  libreoffice-gtk libreoffice-gtk3 libreoffice-impress libreoffice-java-common
  libreoffice-l10n-de libreoffice-l10n-en-gb libreoffice-l10n-ja
  libreoffice-pdfimport libreoffice-style-galaxy libreoffice-writer
  libroken18-heimdal libruby2.1 libsmbclient libsnmp-base libsnmp30 libssl-dev
  libssl1.0.0 libssl1.0.0:i386 libstdc++-4.8-dev libstdc++6 libstdc++6:i386
  libswscale-dev libswscale2 libtalloc2 libtdb1 libtevent0 libtsan0
  libuniversal-require-perl libvdpau-dev libvdpau1 libvte-2.90-9
  libvte-2.90-common libvte-2.90-dev libwbclient0 libwind0-heimdal
  libx11-protocol-perl libxdot4 libxvidcore-dev libxvidcore4
  linux-headers-liquorix-amd64 linux-image-liquorix-amd64 mkvtoolnix
  mkvtoolnix-gui module-assistant mozilla-plugin-gnash myspell-de-de
  openssh-client openssh-server openssh-sftp-server openssl owncloud-doc
  pandoc php-dompdf php-font-lib php-pear php5 php5-cli php5-common php5-curl
  php5-gd php5-json php5-ldap php5-mysql php5-sqlite php5-xsl pkg-config
  python-ntdb python-pelican python-samba python-talloc python-tdb
  python-waitress python-yaml qemu qemu-keymaps qemu-kvm qemu-system
  qemu-system-arm qemu-system-common qemu-system-mips qemu-system-misc
  qemu-system-ppc qemu-system-sparc qemu-system-x86 qemu-user qemu-utils
  ruby-gettext ruby2.1 samba samba-common samba-common-bin samba-dsdb-modules
  samba-libs smbclient ssh ssh-askpass-gnome ssh-krb5 tdb-tools uno-libs3 ure
  weechat-devel weechat-devel-dev winbind wine wine1.7 wine1.7-amd64
  wine1.7-i386:i386 zendframework
252 upgraded, 16 newly installed, 2 to remove and 9 not upgraded.

Last edited by twoion (2014-04-26 12:18:17)


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#5 2014-04-26 12:29:58

iMBeCil
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From: Edrychwch o'ch cwmpas
Registered: 2012-03-22
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Re: too many upgrades?

Whoah twoion smile

You got me ... I do run wheezy  wink

BTW, you seem to be running qemu ... Does it mean that you are proficient in - for example - transferring VirtualBox VMs to qemu, and, more importantly, configuring qemu to run Win XP? I'm asking because currently I run WinXP inside VBox, but I was always wondering if I would benefit if I switch to qemu? (I mean speedwise ... AutoCAD is a bit slow inside VBox.) Do you have any experience and/or opinion on this?


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#6 2014-04-26 13:04:21

twoion
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Re: too many upgrades?

iMBeCil wrote:

Whoah twoion smile

You got me ... I do run wheezy  wink

BTW, you seem to be running qemu ... Does it mean that you are proficient in - for example - transferring VirtualBox VMs to qemu, and, more importantly, configuring qemu to run Win XP? I'm asking because currently I run WinXP inside VBox, but I was always wondering if I would benefit if I switch to qemu? (I mean speedwise ... AutoCAD is a bit slow inside VBox.) Do you have any experience and/or opinion on this?

As for the speed aspect: qemu+kvm is way better than vmware when it comes to raw I/O throughput. The weak point is that graphics performance is weak (=unaccelerated) by default, and I/O is mediocre. You need to heed the following points when building your qemu+kvm setup to alleviate these shortcomings:

  • disk I/O: use the VirtIO extension (needs extra drivers to be installed on the guest)

  • network I/O: again, use the VirtIO extension (needs extra drivers on the guest)

  • graphics: use SPICE which brings you accelerated graphics!(yes, needs an extra driver on the guest)

  • don't save on RAM for the VM

The best way is to do this is making a perfect configuration in a qcow2 image, and do all application installs on a new qcow2 image that uses the clean one as a backing image so that you always have an untainted Windows on reserve if something goes wrong.

Win7 flies with this on even on my netbook. But I have no experience with migration VirtualBox VMs.

My invocation for Win7 that relies on this stack is:

kvm-win7(){
    local DRIVE="/media/zarathustra-backup1/qemu/windows7-Office2013.qcow2"
    local VIRTIO="/home/twoion/lib/qemu/virtio-win-0.1-74.iso"
    local WIN7DISK="/home/twoion/lib/qemu/windows_setup/X15-65813.iso"
    qemu-system-x86_64 \
        -enable-kvm \
        -drive "file=$DRIVE,if=virtio,media=disk" \
        -drive "file=$VIRTIO,media=cdrom" \
        -drive "file=$WIN7DISK,media=cdrom" \
        -netdev user,id=user.0,smb=/mnt/overflow/smb \
        -device virtio-net-pci,netdev=user.0 \
        -m 3G \
        -usbdevice tablet \
        -vga qxl \
        -smp 2 \
        -spice port=5930,disable-ticketing \
        -monitor stdio
}

Last edited by twoion (2014-04-26 13:08:42)


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#7 2014-04-26 15:28:20

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Re: too many upgrades?

@iMBeCil:  It's just a point release update; it's fairly common for them to update this many packages at once for a point release.

~$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID:	Debian
Description:	Debian GNU/Linux 7.5 (wheezy)
Release:	7.5
Codename:	wheezy

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#8 2014-04-26 15:34:21

iMBeCil
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Re: too many upgrades?

Thank you very very much twoion. As soon as I get some spare time, I will try to learn a bit more about this qemu+kvm, and try to setup my virtual machines with it. Thanks once more for your advice (and be prepared for my questions smile ).


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#9 2014-04-26 15:38:07

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From: Edrychwch o'ch cwmpas
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Re: too many upgrades?

pvsage wrote:

@iMBeCil:  It's just a point release update; it's fairly common for them to update this many packages at once for a point release.

Thanks for the soothing words, pvsage. I was a bit surprised, since I couldn't recall last time I have seen so many packages upgraded ... Except after #! fresh install.


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#10 2014-04-28 12:57:58

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Re: too many upgrades?

Yo, dawg. I heard you like updates, so I put some updates in your updates so you can update while you're updating.

Terrible, I know.


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#11 2014-04-28 13:10:15

iMBeCil
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From: Edrychwch o'ch cwmpas
Registered: 2012-03-22
Posts: 1,026
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Re: too many upgrades?

I liek it big_smile  big_smile  big_smile


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