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#1 2014-03-08 11:47:41

Alad
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Round off your Crunchbang Waldorf, Part I/II

Part I and II archive:

http://web.archive.org/web/201412291117 … gspot.com/

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#2 2014-03-08 21:04:47

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Re: Round off your Crunchbang Waldorf, Part I/II

This was very helpful to me, thank you!

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#3 2014-03-09 03:53:08

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Re: Round off your Crunchbang Waldorf, Part I/II

Cannot agree with you in #3 (waldorf repository will block newer packages), #15 (instead of wget it would be better adding testing or sid repo with low priority and using flag -t, for example: sudo apt-get install tint2 --target-release testing), #20 (using 400ms delay is a bad advice, enough 250-300ms).

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#4 2014-03-09 06:32:56

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Re: Round off your Crunchbang Waldorf, Part I/II

#2: Glad to hear it.  smile

#3: 1. if you install iceweasel from wheezy-security, a waldorf priority of 1001 will cause it to be downgraded on the next aptitude upgrade. Unless you hold it with dpkg-selections, but then you don't get automatic updates. I suppose you could add a pin for iceweasel specifically with a priority of 1002.

2. Yes, I've had a testing entry some time, but while it's more elegant to use, it added some conflicts with aptitude. Plus, an unsuspecting user might inadvertendly update core components like libc6.

3. Why? For some users 200-300 ms mouse/menu delay makes crunchbang unusable, and it don't see a negative otherwise. See also this bug report.

Thanks for your feedback.

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#5 2014-03-09 06:52:04

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Re: Round off your Crunchbang Waldorf, Part I/II

If the problem only in iceweasel maybe would be better mozilla.debian.net?

And I think while waldorf is outdated it would be better option to not use it's repositories at all.

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#6 2014-03-10 10:07:59

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Re: Round off your Crunchbang Waldorf, Part I/II

Thanks so much. Nice guide. I knew some things but was totally unaware of some others. Keep going!

I only had one issue. Updated OpenBox and I'm not happy with the change. It misbeahves and I don't find a way to recover my former settings. It seems to ignore anything I try regarding windows placement. I want my windows displayed centered and not having to pull them from the screen edges every time. I have a dualhead desktop and it's a mess having to relocate windows randomly spreading all over all the time. How should I do to revert to the former version?

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#7 2014-03-10 10:17:26

Alad
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Re: Round off your Crunchbang Waldorf, Part I/II

Much appreciated.  smile

I only had one issue. Updated OpenBox and I'm not happy with the change. It misbeahves and I don't find a way to recover my former settings. It seems to ignore anything I try regarding windows placement. I want my windows displayed centered and not having to pull them from the screen edges every time. I have a dualhead desktop and it's a mess having to relocate windows randomly spreading all over all the time. How should I do to revert to the former version?

Reverting to a previous version can be done by appending the =<version> tag to aptitude. For openbox this would be:

sudo aptitude install openbox=3.5.0-7

You can see all versions with

apt-cache policy openbox

I hadn't expected it to break though - I'll add a fair warning to the guide.

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#8 2014-03-11 10:45:21

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Re: Round off your Crunchbang Waldorf, Part I/II

Thanks a bunch!

PS, the older OB version works right again.  cool

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#9 2014-03-11 10:58:09

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Re: Round off your Crunchbang Waldorf, Part I/II

It's not broken - window placement was changed in 3.6 (much to the despair of many users). You would have to check out OB development news for the latest situation.


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#10 2014-03-11 11:11:54

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Re: Round off your Crunchbang Waldorf, Part I/II

It's not broken - window placement was changed in 3.6 (much to the despair of many users).

Huh! Nice to know. I was one of those desperate users for a day. LOL.

Thanks, damo.

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#11 2014-03-11 13:19:21

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Re: Round off your Crunchbang Waldorf, Part I/II

Very cool guide, allthough i think some (if not many) of the steps are unnecessary.

Printing wrote:

11) Support for printing can be enabled in the cb-welcome script, or via System -> Printers.

If you're lucky enough to get it working, strange error messages in the configuration tool makes you think otherwise. A fix was released over a year ago but has yet to appear in the stable repositories.

lately i did`t even had to install hplip myself and everything worked out of the box!

Another thing is that making such a blogpost could kind of scaring people away from #! because it is not made 100% clear in my eyes that this tweaks are possible and not necessary...

Anyways, nice work, and surley helpful for those how want to give their #!-install the kicks!

greetz -naik


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#12 2014-03-11 15:19:06

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Re: Round off your Crunchbang Waldorf, Part I/II

I'm afraid there's a whole lot more in Part II.  tongue

lately i did`t even had to install hplip myself and everything worked out of the box!

Another thing is that making such a blogpost could kind of scaring people away from #! because it is not made 100% clear in my eyes that this tweaks are possible and not necessary...

Well, I do try to point out what's possible and not necessary. For printing there were enough people having problems (see the debian bugtracker), but if you didn't get those errors it can be rephrased. You could also sort things by priority. Thanks for the suggestion.

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#13 2014-04-04 05:36:02

Alad
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Re: Round off your Crunchbang Waldorf, Part I/II

Updates so far:

  • d/wget replaced with apt

  • clearlooks theme

  • MEPIS repo

  • more backport instructions

  • XSettings

  • mouse acceleration

  • mouse pointer size

  • cb-exit troubleshooting

  • gnome keyring automatic login

  • gpg key repos

  • gnome policykit

Write-up for Part II is about 70 90% complete, but (apart from services) my notes are mostly done.

Last edited by Alad (2014-04-08 21:49:02)

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#14 2014-04-04 08:58:51

Snap
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Re: Round off your Crunchbang Waldorf, Part I/II

Great! Looking forward.  cool

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#15 2014-04-08 21:34:24

Alad
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Re: Round off your Crunchbang Waldorf, Part I/II

http://web.archive.org/web/201412291117 … gspot.com/

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#16 2014-04-09 18:40:40

Alad
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Re: Round off your Crunchbang Waldorf, Part I/II

I realize it's a big scary wall of text, but I'd still appreciate any comments.

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#17 2014-04-09 20:38:14

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Re: Round off your Crunchbang Waldorf, Part I/II

big_smile I've been waiting for this since I started using #!

After reading it and doing a few of the things, the only comment I have is "WINE is magic"


Sorry about that. I accidentally posted my password in IRC and I had the same password set here so they changed my signature.

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#18 2014-04-10 02:48:45

Alad
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Re: Round off your Crunchbang Waldorf, Part I/II

smile

WINE is magic

Yes, but hangovers are easy...  8)

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#19 2014-04-15 05:17:10

Snap
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Re: Round off your Crunchbang Waldorf, Part I/II

Alad wrote:

I realize it's a big scary wall of text, but I'd still appreciate any comments.

Thanks for that big scary wall of text.  tongue

Going over it.

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#20 2014-04-15 11:27:47

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Re: Round off your Crunchbang Waldorf, Part I/II

Great work Alad, thanks for the effort you've put in there --- you really know what you're doing smile

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#21 2014-04-16 08:23:39

Alad
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Re: Round off your Crunchbang Waldorf, Part I/II

Snap wrote:

Going over it.

Cool, let me know if you have any suggestions.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

you really know what you're doing smile

I do hope so. tongue

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#22 2014-04-19 15:39:17

Alad
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Re: Round off your Crunchbang Waldorf, Part I/II

Update: python-cups and system-config-printer backports were accepted in the Debian archive. If you have any issues with them, please mention so on the backports mailing list.

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#23 2014-06-06 15:07:50

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Re: Round off your Crunchbang Waldorf, Part I/II

Looking through that guide, it really makes me think of installation and customization guides for Slackware around version 10 the myths that perpetuate how hard it is to install and keep current with stuff like Java.

With Crunchbang all I had to do was add the Broadcom firmware for this laptop offline [means planning ahead and getting it before the install]. Everything else was optional and not caused by a problem.


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#24 2014-06-06 18:28:43

Alad
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Re: Round off your Crunchbang Waldorf, Part I/II

^ Sounds like I should give Slackware a go then.  tongue  big_smile

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#25 2014-06-06 20:19:18

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Re: Round off your Crunchbang Waldorf, Part I/II

Nice thread. I use the opposite way. I always install Debian Wheezy, use packages-lists from Crunchbang, configurations from Crunchbang and own configurations (tint2, conky, menu.xml, ...)  and the waldorf theme. Works great, too. Crunchbang Waldorf is really cool. But Debian Wheezy with the right configuration and packages is cool, too.

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