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#2701 2013-11-26 21:56:36

dot|not
#! Junkie
From: /dev/null
Registered: 2013-09-05
Posts: 371

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

After some time with OpenBSD on my laptop (Which I enjoyed thoroughly, this was an excellent computing experience.) I am, with a little tear in my eye, back with Debian Jessie. OpenBSD was missing one very important feature: The possibility to mount smb-shares. The only implementations that exist out there are around ten years old, and even though there is a good chance for FUSE and all the other fancy things to come with 5.5 I would need it now. So here I am, back at being angry on things being inconsistent and oddly working.

On the other distrohopping-front I am in the process of kicking Windows of my main rig, for productivity reasons. I spend too much time playing videogames. But all the distributions I have tried so far were not really convincing. I might end up with Crunchbang again. Would be a valid reason to update my rc.xml @ github and allow tmux to be a bigger part of my workflow again.

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#2702 2013-11-26 22:10:18

Unia
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From: The Netherlands
Registered: 2010-07-17
Posts: 4,634
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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

^ Out of curiosity, what did you think was good about OpenBSD?


If you can't sit by a cozy fire with your code in hand enjoying its simplicity and clarity, it needs more work. --Carlos Torres

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#2703 2013-11-26 23:32:54

ew
#! Die Hard
Registered: 2012-09-27
Posts: 1,975

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

intoCB wrote:

Bah. Broken packages. Unmet dependencies. libwwwperl.


Hehe. ROFL...


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#2704 2013-11-26 23:35:35

pvsage
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From: North Carolina
Registered: 2009-10-18
Posts: 13,970

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

^ Hey, as long as it was "For Science", it wasn't wasted effort. cool

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#2705 2013-11-26 23:44:23

saneks
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Registered: 2009-10-01
Posts: 1,020

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

intoCB wrote:

Bah. Broken packages. Unmet dependencies. libwwwperl.

maybe try again with #!9.04? ]:D


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#2706 2013-11-26 23:47:02

ew
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Registered: 2012-09-27
Posts: 1,975

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

pvsage wrote:

^ Hey, as long as it was "For Science", it wasn't wasted effort. cool

Hehe. Well, I`m trying to download #! 9.04 -32 bit now, but the links are dead, and nobody seems to seed it. Well, I`ll leave transmission on, just in case I get lucky smile


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#2707 2013-11-26 23:55:46

ew
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Posts: 1,975

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

ew wrote:
pvsage wrote:

^ Hey, as long as it was "For Science", it wasn't wasted effort. cool

Hehe. Well, I`m trying to download #! 9.04 -32 bit now, but the links are dead, and nobody seems to seed it. Well, I`ll leave transmission on, just in case I get lucky smile

Okay. I found the downloads, so I will try both 8 and 9, just to see why some people claim that Crunchbang was better before, and of course, I will try to do what IntoCB couldn`t do..... lol.


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#2708 2013-11-27 08:17:33

dot|not
#! Junkie
From: /dev/null
Registered: 2013-09-05
Posts: 371

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Unia wrote:

^ Out of curiosity, what did you think was good about OpenBSD?

A lot of things seemed more logic and structured, part of it because the documentation is a lot better than for most Linux distributions, the other part because of the strict separation between the basesystem and additional software. They kept things as simple as possible, that was especially noticeable when it came to manually connecting to wireless networks. I (personally) found this to be a pain in the butt under most Linux distributions except Arch with it's netctl. Suspend / Resume was more stable (and a bit faster, but we are talking about parts of seconds here) than now under Debian, sometimes when I wake it up my load goes up to 8,9 or 10 for no reason and the only thing I can do is reboot the box. All special keys were detected automatically while in Debian for some I need to remap stuff and write (read: "copypaste") small shellsnippets.

Part of the experience comes from the x220 being used by many OpenBSD developers, therefore the support is excellent. I've encountered enough bad stories about OpenBSD, or BSD in general, on some machines, but for me everything worked out-of-the-box and did so fine.

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#2709 2013-11-28 01:13:50

ew
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Registered: 2012-09-27
Posts: 1,975

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Well, I tried upgrading #! 9.04 directly  to 12.04, but it didn`t work. Not like that was a surprise to me, lol. It`s doable if you go from 9.04 to 9.10 to 10.04 to 10.10 and so on all the way up, but even I passed on that option.  But I have to say, #! 9.04 was a very nice release..., and as I wasn`t here then, I was really surprised to find that Crunchbang used to have lite-versions of the releases. More options and more ways to install #! It seems like everything actually was better before big_smile


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#2710 2013-12-05 02:15:46

tamikan
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Registered: 2012-09-20
Posts: 777

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

i thought i was done distro hopping but i did it again this time for debian netinstall  ]:D


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#2711 2013-12-05 02:20:30

CSCoder4ever
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From: /dev/zero
Registered: 2013-09-03
Posts: 2,256

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

I'm currently wondering if I should install Arch or continue using #! on my new laptop myself...

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#2712 2013-12-05 03:11:48

tamikan
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Registered: 2012-09-20
Posts: 777

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

CSCoder4ever wrote:

I'm currently wondering if I should install Arch or continue using #! on my new laptop myself...

listen to your heart and youll end up somewhere  smile


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#2713 2013-12-05 03:24:05

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Posts: 2,256

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

I thought the heart was a deceiver tongue

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#2714 2013-12-05 04:26:18

orionthehunter
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From: Japan
Registered: 2011-04-09
Posts: 967
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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Arch requires more work.  It also has newer packages. Up to you.

Honestly Ubuntu family is a fairly nice in-between.

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#2715 2013-12-05 05:20:19

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From: Ohio, U. S. of A.
Registered: 2013-09-19
Posts: 1,244

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

orionthehunter wrote:

Ubuntu family is a fairly nice in-between.

However, I will never look at Ubuntu the same way again since I discovered Ubuntu: Satanic Edition  ]:D


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#2716 2013-12-05 05:29:44

CSCoder4ever
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Registered: 2013-09-03
Posts: 2,256

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Yep, Arch does take more work, I enjoyed installing it strangely enough... I guess I'll have to just wait and see O:)

#!_828 wrote:

I will never look at Ubuntu the same way again since I discovered Ubuntu: Satanic Edition  ]:D

LOL!

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#2717 2013-12-05 05:56:48

tamikan
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Registered: 2012-09-20
Posts: 777

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

CSCoder4ever wrote:

I thought the heart was a deceiver tongue

you're right smile


Top things ]:D
dwb | Firefox Nightly | sakura | emacs | moc | #! | Arch | Doing 1 thing @ the time | Music from the 90s

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#2718 2013-12-05 14:02:58

hinto
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From: Cary, NC
Registered: 2010-12-08
Posts: 1,487

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

I've been running a bit with PearOS.
I have to say I like Gala.
-Hinto


"Sometimes I wish I hadn't taken the red pill" -Me

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#2719 2013-12-05 17:35:13

murak
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From: Sweden
Registered: 2009-05-29
Posts: 86

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

It's been a while since I visited this thread and confessed, so I might as well come clean.

I have been of the path (the righteous path which is #!) for a long time. Windows 7 have been a steady companion that has, in a way, been good to me. Others might feel different about my OS of choice but the truth is that using Windows 7, for me anyway, is like not using alcohol. It's safe, no one can blame you for it and if something happens to you they won't blame the OS you are using. But it is boring, like riding a train you almost always know where you are going and where you are going to end up. It's not as bad a OSX which would be the equivalent of joining a cult (it dulls the mind of the user!)

Needless to say I am back on my drug. New laptop, new OS. I'm just going to get every thing stable and the way I want it then I'm set. No more fiddling around with unstable sources and questionable scripts. No, not for this boy, no sir'e.


[me about 24 hours ago] -"Compile a kernel using a guide from a website I never visited before, using terminal commands I don't understand, to get a "unstable" version of a graphics driver working, just to get a game I probably won't play displaying correct darkness/gamma? Sure, why not?"


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#2720 2013-12-05 17:42:17

merelyjim
#! Die Hard
From: Fort Worth, Texas
Registered: 2010-04-07
Posts: 2,303
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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

I've been trying a few of the rolling distro's; Manjaro, Sabayon, LMDE. Everything works fine for a few months, then something gets borked after an update. The promise is great, never have to reinstall again. The reality is in conflict with the theory.
Ash well, I learned things along the way, and now back home to #!


"When I enter a command... I expect ass to be hauled and the coffeelike aroma of hustle delicately hovering in the air." -thalassophile

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#2721 2013-12-05 17:59:19

lowrider
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From: Germany
Registered: 2011-09-10
Posts: 749

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

^haha, there is nothing more stable than debian-stable...  wink welcome back.


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#2722 2013-12-05 18:06:18

GekkoP
#! Junkie
From: Vicenza (Italy)
Registered: 2013-06-17
Posts: 297
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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Well, I've been on sid for moths now, never had a problem. Suppose it just depends on the user then. smile

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#2723 2013-12-05 18:14:55

hinto
#! Windbag
From: Cary, NC
Registered: 2010-12-08
Posts: 1,487

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

I ran sid for 6 years, no re-install.
It even "morphed" from Kanotix (when it was sid) to sidux.
-Hinto


"Sometimes I wish I hadn't taken the red pill" -Me

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#2724 2013-12-06 09:31:02

KrunchTime
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From: not where I belong
Registered: 2012-03-02
Posts: 3,264

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

I had issues trying to track Sid under a CrunchBang install.  Someone commented here in the forums that CrunchBang wasn't designed to run as a rolling release and that I should try a distro specifically designed to track Sid.  I installed Siduction LXDE last week on my ASUS UL20A laptop and was surprised that the first aptitude full-upgrade went without a hitch.  The only thing I don't care much for is LXDE.  I've become enamored with the Crunchbang setup.

I don't think I'll attempt to track Sid on my Dell Studio 1557 laptop anymore because of the legacy AMD graphics chip.


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#2725 2013-12-06 12:42:11

ew
#! Die Hard
Registered: 2012-09-27
Posts: 1,975

Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

KrunchTime wrote:

I had issues trying to track Sid under a CrunchBang install.  Someone commented here in the forums that CrunchBang wasn't designed to run as a rolling release and that I should try a distro specifically designed to track Sid.  I installed Siduction LXDE last week on my ASUS UL20A laptop and was surprised that the first aptitude full-upgrade went without a hitch.  The only thing I don't care much for is LXDE.  I've become enamored with the Crunchbang setup.

I don't think I'll attempt to track Sid on my Dell Studio 1557 laptop anymore because of the legacy AMD graphics chip.

Issues? If they can be solved without having to reinstall, then it`s really not issues. I`ve tracked Sid with lots of install, and
sure I`ve run into dependency-issues and the annoying message about "you have kept broken-packages". But it`s almost always
fixable...

It really should be no problem to Crunchify Siduction. Just takes a little work.


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