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#1 2013-06-04 17:21:22

MartinRF
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Tablet computer as birthday present?

Hi Guys,

I just got a call from my sister. She is in the market for a tablet computer as a present for my brother-in-law whose birthday is looming in the near future.

I am no expert in tablet computers. I know there are ipads and a gaggle of Androids (ASUS, ACER, Samsung, Sony...). Do you know what to look for and maybe more important, what to look away from?

TIA,

/Martin (yes I know I am lazy, I have only done a *very* quick forum search before posting this)

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#2 2013-06-04 17:52:11

Forthy
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Re: Tablet computer as birthday present?

I'm not really in to tablets, but when I got an android one a couple of years ago for a relative, I didn't realise that some of them don't have access to the Google Playstore (market as it was then), and are locked to a miniature version provided by the manufacturer which was pretty crap.

If I was looking for one now, I'd make sure it had full access to the Playstore and then just look at price/hardware/review ratios. Other than that I don't imagine there's much that can go wrong.

I can't comment on ipads, not a fan of apple stuff.

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#3 2013-06-04 18:10:29

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Re: Tablet computer as birthday present?

Might be worth looking here :-
http://www.androidquestions.org/


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#4 2013-06-04 18:17:08

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Re: Tablet computer as birthday present?

I'm very, very happy with my cheap and cheerful Acer. iconia b1.
for 119 euros it is a 7inch 2 core, expandable with sdcard.
google play store is unlocked and jellybean 4.2.
screen is ips meaning not great at an angle.
my fav and it's underestimated selling. point, it has GPS
get a prog like freenav and a car charger.
for the price I've not seen better. battery life is great, with irregular charges it last for 8-9 hours straight web viewing ebook reading.

downside only has a front (ie screen side) camera and its only good for skype.
speakers not that great. not too great in sunshine, but what is?
it took me two weeks umming and ahhing. I was nearly gonna get the nexus7 but I bought 2 Acers instead 8)

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#5 2013-06-04 18:34:05

Unia
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Re: Tablet computer as birthday present?

It really depends on his needs for one. If he wants the smaller form factor (7 inch), the Nexus still rocks (or the iPad Mini). Of both tablets, a newer version is expected soon but nothing is confirmed.

If he wants something bigger (10 inch), there's a lot of choise and you really should discuss with him personally what he wants.


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#6 2013-06-04 19:13:22

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Re: Tablet computer as birthday present?

Unia wrote:

If he wants the smaller form factor (7 inch), the Nexus still rocks

ASUS, which made the Nexus 7, will have the 16GB Asus MemoPad HD 7 selling for US$149 in July or August. It will have the latest Android 4.2 software and, unlike the Nexus 7, it will include a micro-SD slot for additional storage.

http://blog.laptopmag.com/asus-memo-pad-hd-7

The 8GB Hisense Sero 7 Pro uses the same Tegra3 SOC chip as the Nexus 7, has Android 4.2, micro-SD and micro-HDMI for US$149.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hisense-Sero- … y/24805142

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#7 2013-06-04 19:54:03

Unia
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Re: Tablet computer as birthday present?

^ I know, but the processor, gpu and screen (battery life too?) are of way less quality than the Nexus 7. I would definetely go for the Nexus 7 over the MemoPad if I were to get one.


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#8 2013-06-04 20:06:30

otak
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Re: Tablet computer as birthday present?

my son has a yuando n90s dual core with quadcore graphics and a gig of ram and android jellybean with mini HDMI socket, micro usb, power, sound and micro SD

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#9 2013-06-04 21:24:53

MartinRF
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Re: Tablet computer as birthday present?

Good start guys,

My brother-in-law is not informed. Asking him would give the game away...

What about doing things like transferring a memory card from a camera to show photos?
What about hooking it up to a Linux PC for file transfer/back-up?

Thanks for the URLs. I have just watched the video review of the Nexus 7 at blog.laptopmag.com.

/Martin

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#10 2013-06-05 01:12:01

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Re: Tablet computer as birthday present?

Cold Hard Truth Answer:
Most here might not like me saying this, but seriously, in the tablet space nothing comes close to the iPad with regards to applications.


Linux Friendly Answer (even though Android is about as Linuxy as the kernel powering my microwave oven):
Depends on what you think he'll be using the tablet for. If it's just basic email checking, socialist networking, light browsing and the occasional game of Angry Tarts, then any Android fondleslab will do. Personally, I'd go with Nexus branded devices on the Android side. The Nexus 7 is decent enough for most needs. Being a Nexus, you'll get timely updates straight from Google without OEM/carrier intervention. Another benefit is that, with all the hardware fragmentation in the Android landscape, Nexus devices tend to be good with regards to application compatibility, since most application developers tend to have Nexus hardware on hand to test with.


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#11 2013-06-05 06:23:50

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Re: Tablet computer as birthday present?

Cold Hard Truth Answer: Ask him.

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#12 2013-06-05 07:29:44

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Re: Tablet computer as birthday present?

Cold Hard Truth Answer:

FU**ING ASK HIM!

really! Suprise or not! I would just freak out to an extend hardly measurable if someone is buying any kind of computer for me without asking me! especially when i imagine MY sister in law going for it! I would just hate it!
If you want to suprise him, buy him candy-underwear, but don`t mess around with electronics worth hundreds of dollars if you are not in a state where it wouldn`t bother you to just trash them....

greetz -naik

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#13 2013-06-05 08:19:39

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Re: Tablet computer as birthday present?

gutterslob wrote:

Cold Hard Truth Answer:
Most here might not like me saying this, but seriously, in the tablet space nothing comes close to the iPad with regards to applications.

iPad is obviously supreme, will last for ages, and physically be hard to beat.
not everybody has half a grand to throw around.

as you can see tablets can be a very personal choice.
what does he do on the computer?

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#14 2013-06-08 10:51:46

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Re: Tablet computer as birthday present?

wuxmedia wrote:
gutterslob wrote:

Cold Hard Truth Answer:
Most here might not like me saying this, but seriously, in the tablet space nothing comes close to the iPad with regards to applications.

iPad is obviously supreme, will last for ages, and physically be hard to beat.
not everybody has half a grand to throw around.

as you can see tablets can be a very personal choice.
what does he do on the computer?

Agreed, iPad is the king of tablets.  However, eventually Apple will stop supporting an iPad by not providing iOS updates, similar to what they do for the iPhone.  In that sense, they do not "last for ages".

The thing I dislike about the iPad is having to use iTunes or iCloud.  I'm considering an Android tablet when I'm ready for a new one, but I'm not a fan of the physical dimensions of Android tablets.  I guess the dimensions are nice if you watch movies, but I read a lot on my iPad and I don't think the reading experience on an Android would be as nice.


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#15 2013-06-08 11:32:01

Unia
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Re: Tablet computer as birthday present?

Guanitak, what are you? Human or spambot? Kind of a strange first post to make, to be honest.


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#16 2013-06-08 11:42:22

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Re: Tablet computer as birthday present?

Unia wrote:

Guanitak, what are you? Human or spambot? Kind of a strange first post to make, to be honest.

Agreed.


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#17 2013-06-08 11:56:11

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Re: Tablet computer as birthday present?

Spambot booted and spam binned.  Moving on...

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#18 2013-06-10 13:16:18

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Re: Tablet computer as birthday present?

I own an iPad and a Nexus 7.  I find the Nexus 7 superior in nearly every way for my tastes.


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#19 2013-06-10 16:24:42

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Re: Tablet computer as birthday present?

@gutterslob
Not sure... Android has a lot of applications to satisfy almost every user.

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#20 2013-06-10 17:01:15

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Re: Tablet computer as birthday present?

^ Key word being almost.
If you just need to browse, check email, IM, skype and whatnot, then sure, any Android tablet will be sufficient. If you live inside the Google ecosystem, Android might even be better since it's got cross-app integration/communication (also it's biggest downside, security-wise).  If that's all you need, then just get an Android tablet.

But if you want to go beyond that and need something richer, then no, Android doesn't even come close.

70% of the magazines I read are iPad only, and most of the remaining 30% offer richer iOS/iPad versions compared to their Android counterparts. Music production/editing is still a no-go with Android, thanks to audio latency issues (and no, don't recommend me some app made by some obscure dev-cum-bedroom-jockey, I'm talking about Propellerhead, Korg, Roland, Yamaha, etc). Design oriented apps, although still nowhere near desktop versions, are still better on the iPad. A-list games like Baldur's Gate come out on the iOS first, and they usually remain superior even once the Android ports get released. I haven't even gone into more specialized categories to do with my interests/occupation, like engine map/management applications for motorcycles and jet-skis, or medium-format camera controller/remote apps, or studio strobe controllers.

This is coming from someone who owns a Nexus 7 but ended up using the gf's iPad for almost everything.

Obviously the downsides to iOwnership are the exorbitant prices and dependence on iTunes. No idea what Jobs was smoking when he yelled "Post-PC", especially since iOS devices are more dependent on Mac/Windows synching than their Android counterparts.

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#21 2013-06-11 03:12:36

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Re: Tablet computer as birthday present?

^Excellent reply, gutterslob!


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#22 2013-06-11 19:05:29

MartinRF
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Re: Tablet computer as birthday present?

Yes, I sort of came to that conclusion myself this weekend after having checked out some websites like that of National Geographic and *only* finding iOS apps.

Anyways, today my sister called and told me she had just bought one of the Samsung Androids.

/Martin

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