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#1 2012-11-23 12:21:03

dura
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From: interzone
Registered: 2012-09-15
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Waldorf's Adages and Psychological Trauma

I have autostart set up to have Waldorf give me little adages every now and then. Some I like, some I find difficult to deal with. I'm waiting to hear back from a job interview. The interview went pretty badly, but they have asked to see more of my work. I've sent a journal paper I'm working on, and my doctorate thesis- which is crap.

For weeks prior to the interview I paid attention to Waldorf's adages- or they insinuated themselves into more thoughts whether I wanted them to or not.

One that first stayed with me was:

You will get what you deserve.

This I guess can be interpreted in both positive and negative ways. I was hoping it was positive. I feel I have worked hard this year and want the job.

Earlier today I had:

Your present aims will be satisfied.

Quite positive this one.

Now I sit here, knowing that my future hangs in the balance as a guy in London reads my doctorate thesis, which I am pretty disappointed with.

Waldorf plays with my mind:

You are a very redundant person. That's what you are.

Wally! I love your speed and simplicity, and everything else about you. But why! Why do you do this to me? Stop playing with me! I respect you and try to do good to you- please stop! I can't take it anymore!

Is anyone else unsure about Waldorf's personality? I can't remember much about his previous life as a Muppet. But something seems to be up with him- at least on my machine anyway hmm

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#2 2012-11-23 12:44:56

intoCB
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Re: Waldorf's Adages and Psychological Trauma

As a younger man, I used to use the I-Ching like this. Even when I realised it was all just mumbo-jumbo, I thought it could be a good way of freeing locked trains of thought and introducing chance, much like Brian Eno's Oblique Strategies cards. Totally nonsense, really.

Don't listen to Waldorf.

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#3 2012-11-23 12:46:56

intoCB
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Re: Waldorf's Adages and Psychological Trauma

I just asked the I-Ching if it was nonsense. Here is the result:

28. Ta Kuo - Preponderance of the Great

The Judgement

          Preponderance of the Great.
          The ridgepole sags to the breaking point.
          It furthers one to have somewhere to go.
          Success.

     The Image

          The lake rises above the trees:
          The image of Preponderance of the Great.
          Thus the superior man, when he stands alone,
          Is unconcerned,
          And if he has to renounce the world,
          He is undaunted.

Changing yang in the third place means:
          The ridgepole sags to the breaking point.
          Misfortune.

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#4 2012-11-23 12:49:31

dura
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From: interzone
Registered: 2012-09-15
Posts: 2,108

Re: Waldorf's Adages and Psychological Trauma

^ Hehe. But I'll listen to you. I realise Wally knows nothing, and that his words are created outside of my immediate experience. He is like a fortune teller, with a twisted sense of humour.

Interesting that you read the I-Ching. Very important book. Interesting too with Eno.

I can handle Waldorf, and don't listen to him. But he does say pretty deep things that you don't really expect. His personality is quite different to the normal Tux messages you get in some distro's terminals. Where do these adages come from, I wonder. And why is there always so much Mark Twain in all of these.

I'd quite like to write my own for him:

You are great.
Everything is fine.
Drink more beer.
etc.,

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#5 2012-11-23 12:51:44

dura
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Registered: 2012-09-15
Posts: 2,108

Re: Waldorf's Adages and Psychological Trauma

Ok. That actually makes me want to have another look at the I-Ching. It was one of those mysterious books me and friends talked about but never really looked at during our early twenties, as we have to start deciphering answers to existential questions.

I will resist. Renounce the world. Be one with it, blah, blah, blah...

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#6 2012-11-23 12:56:51

dura
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Re: Waldorf's Adages and Psychological Trauma

I asked I-Ching "Will I get the job?"

It answered:

Cast Hexagram:

62 - Sixty-Two
Hsiao Kuo / Lying Low

Thunder high on the Mountain, active passivity:
The Superior Person is unsurpassed in his ability to remain small.
In a time for humility, he is supremely modest.
In a time of mourning, he uplifts with somber reverence.
In a time of want, he is resourcefully frugal.

When a bird flies too high, its song is lost.
Rather than push upward now, it is best to remain below.
This will bring surprising good fortune, if you keep to your course.

SITUATION ANALYSIS:

There is no profit to striving here.
To be content with oneself is the greatest success imaginable.
The enlightened person has nothing to prove to himself or others, and thus may always operate from a position of sincerity, with no pretense or posturing.
His humility is guileless simplicity.
His mourning is selfless compassion.
His frugality is an unshakeable faith that he is but a conduit, letting what is needed flow through him to others, with no loss to himself.

http://www.ichingonline.net/index.php

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#7 2012-11-23 12:56:58

intoCB
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Re: Waldorf's Adages and Psychological Trauma

Waldorf says:

Drink more beer

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#8 2012-11-24 11:19:18

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Re: Waldorf's Adages and Psychological Trauma

dura wrote:

I'd quite like to write my own for him:

You are great.
Everything is fine.
Drink more beer.
etc.,

Please see: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=19548 smile


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#9 2012-11-24 15:46:33

whereisthetea
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Registered: 2012-04-11
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Re: Waldorf's Adages and Psychological Trauma

I understand your feelings on this, dura.
Waldorf's sayings sometimes are quite harsh, especially if they catch you with your pants down (metaphorically speaking).
Maybe it should come with a label "Not for young and impressionable" or sth like that.

I like the Mark Twain quotes a lot, though.


Anymay away icklemay akesmay away ucklemay.

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#10 2012-11-24 15:50:26

dura
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Re: Waldorf's Adages and Psychological Trauma

There is actually an offensive file of fortunes about too. You can specify whether you want them on or off. I can't find them in Waldorf- perhaps big boss man has chosen not to include them or has just put them in the default file. Contribute your own:

http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic. … 77#p274277

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#11 2012-12-03 13:39:30

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Re: Waldorf's Adages and Psychological Trauma

Waldorf says:

You need no longer worry about the future. This time tomorrow you will be dead.


Anymay away icklemay akesmay away ucklemay.

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#12 2012-12-03 14:49:53

dura
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Re: Waldorf's Adages and Psychological Trauma

^ One of my favourites that one. Waldorf was playing with me all along. I got the job.

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#13 2012-12-05 15:15:19

whereisthetea
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Re: Waldorf's Adages and Psychological Trauma

whereisthetea wrote:

Waldorf says:

You need no longer worry about the future. This time tomorrow you will be dead.

This is obviously a bug, judging by the fact that I seem to be alive. I don't won't it fixed though ]:D


Anymay away icklemay akesmay away ucklemay.

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#14 2012-12-05 15:59:07

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Re: Waldorf's Adages and Psychological Trauma

Could Waldorf be the all-seeing, all-powerful embodiment of the ubergalactic Wheeze?

Ignore the Man-Behind-the-Curtain at your own risk.  After all, everyone knows that androids dream of electric sheep...

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