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#1 2012-11-13 19:33:16

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The Firefox Lover's Mega Thread

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#2 2012-11-13 19:42:19

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Re: The Firefox Lover's Mega Thread

Nice write up and How To  cool

I am curios though as to how the weasel is so different than FF when it is loudly shouted everywhere that the only differences are branding?

I use the weasel Aurora and as I understand it I may be no more than a week behind anything FF Aurora due to packaging. 

I have tested both side by side and just do not see any differences. Enlighten me Black Ivan with your mastery on the subject.

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#3 2012-11-13 19:57:05

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Re: The Firefox Lover's Mega Thread

I know, I know, and you are right, Weasel is Fox or the other way they say. But in my case I decided to use Firefox because I think it is easier for me to maintain it or better said to let maintain Firefox the updating for me. It is just a personal preference. I had just too many problems to catch up with how and when Debian Unstable decides to manage new Iceweasel releases based on Firefox. I had the regular version, I had it from backports, from the Debian Mozilla repo, basically I jumped from one repo to the other. Maybe it was just me.  smile
On Sid the version is old, Debian Mozilla suggests to use Experimental and sometimes its own repo and the newest version is in Experimental but then, you won't believe it, but I have not Experimental in my sources and do not need it, at least I think.  cool

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#4 2012-11-13 20:32:28

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Re: The Firefox Lover's Mega Thread

Thanks ivanovnegro.

I went through these settings in my version of Weasel (18.0a2 (2012-11-09) to check that they worked or were in play.

1) I already knew about and disabled it as I did not like how it runs and sits on the layout I use.  I also use a plugin that I like for downloads called Download Statusbar

2) I enabled this and find it a better way for preferences to open.  I was not aware of this one, thank you!

3) The integrated PDF was already set up to run within the Weasel.

4) The flash inhibitor works perfectly, allowing me to choose when to run flash. Thank you!

A question, I have used a specific flash plugin (Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202 file libflashplayer.so) that has seemed to work better than most.  With the flashplugin-nonfree or the flashplayer-mozilla from Multimedia, this is the same file and process but will grab the latest, is that correct?

Thanks for all your help on this...

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#5 2012-11-13 20:54:04

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Re: The Firefox Lover's Mega Thread

I spoke about the regular stable release, at the moment 16.0.2, so that some features are already present in Aurora and the addon you use for downloads is also a good one, should put that in my post too. Useful addons, man, that is what I forgot, will update the how-to, how could I dare on a lover's thread.  devil

Regards your Flash question, I think you use the same plugin but just downloaded it manually from Adobe, am I right? If so, then it should be the same version. Honestly I never used it as I did not care about, so, I have no idea how you update it but I guess you have to do it also manually because you bypass the package manegment. But yes, it is the same Flash plugin you would run in Fox/Weasel, basically we have three options.

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#6 2012-11-13 20:56:23

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Re: The Firefox Lover's Mega Thread

^ Yes, I manually downloaded it and have used other newer ones too, but they were buggy and went back to this version.

Thanks!

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#7 2012-11-14 15:09:58

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Re: The Firefox Lover's Mega Thread

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#8 2012-11-14 15:52:17

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Re: The Firefox Lover's Mega Thread

Of course, thanks for that my BiZKit friend. We can of course run multiple instances of the Fox. That is another great thing.
We should merge the threads.  devil At least I can link it to yours.

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#9 2012-11-14 16:05:29

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Re: The Firefox Lover's Mega Thread

big_smile

You explained perfectly how to do what you described though. Didn't let that stop me from babbling anyway. The straight-forward how to you gave here, might finally allow me to get rid of IW altogether. Don't even know why I still have it .. Never even use it and yet still have it set as default browser ? It's a pain uncommenting the experimental repo in sources.list just to upgrade IW, arghhhh !

Ah ... either way, thanks for the how to Sir Ivan ... good stuff. smile

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#10 2012-11-22 19:28:34

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Re: The Firefox Lover's Mega Thread

I did exactly what you described, but I don't get flash. I get flash on iceweasel, but not on Firefox.
I'm using Firefox 17 and whichever current version of #! is the stable default one.

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#11 2012-11-22 19:41:20

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Re: The Firefox Lover's Mega Thread

But if you get Flash with Weasel, you should have it also in Fox. What Flash plugin are you using?
Can you post the content of:

apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree

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#12 2012-11-22 19:45:21

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Re: The Firefox Lover's Mega Thread

apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree

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#13 2012-11-22 20:15:00

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Re: The Firefox Lover's Mega Thread

Ok, Flash is there. Can you try to update it just in case:

sudo update-flashplugin-nonfree --install

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#14 2012-11-23 12:43:52

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Re: The Firefox Lover's Mega Thread

sudo update-flashplugin-nonfree --install

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#15 2012-11-23 12:54:38

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Re: The Firefox Lover's Mega Thread

It should not matter but maybe try with a clean Mozilla profile. I am out of ideas.

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#16 2012-11-23 13:07:32

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#17 2012-11-23 13:12:38

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Re: The Firefox Lover's Mega Thread

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#18 2012-11-23 13:30:48

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Re: The Firefox Lover's Mega Thread

Actually if you use few addons/extensions with the Fox, even the most popular (they are updated regularly), you are almost always good to go, the rapid release cycle never affected me personally in a negative way.

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#19 2012-11-23 13:39:02

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Re: The Firefox Lover's Mega Thread

Ok, I purged firefox, icewesel, iceape and flashplugin-nonfree.
I deleted my previous firefox folder, backed up my .mozilla folder, re-downloaded FF17 from mozilla, deleted all folders related to mozilla and firefox I could find, then I re-installed firefox as shown here and it still doesn't work.

Why does this have to be so difficult? What could possibly be the problem here?

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#20 2012-11-23 13:47:34

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Re: The Firefox Lover's Mega Thread

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#21 2012-11-23 14:05:12

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Re: The Firefox Lover's Mega Thread

So, I installed Iceweasel, checked that flash works, then I dragged all the files from my firefox17 folder into /usr/lib/iceweasel and then flash stopped working in iceweasel.

Is that helpful at all?

I'd love if I were able to reverse engineer this process.

EDIT: I reinstalled iceweasel and flash started working again.

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#22 2012-11-23 15:17:22

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#23 2012-11-23 17:56:20

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Re: The Firefox Lover's Mega Thread

I do not use Flash anymore but I used it with the same intructions from above and Flash should work. At the moment I am too blind to see/think what the issue is.

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#24 2012-11-24 05:09:10

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Re: The Firefox Lover's Mega Thread

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#25 2012-11-24 17:37:11

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Re: The Firefox Lover's Mega Thread

Aha! My flash was broken.

I ran "sudo apt-get install --reinstall --assume-yes flashplugin-nonfree && update-alternatives --auto flash-mozilla.so && rm -f -r /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/*flash* && ln -sf /etc/alternatives/flash-mozilla.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flash-mozilla.so"

Then "sudo update-flashplugin-nonfree --install" (Having firefox as my default browser)

And now it works!

EDIT: I also changed to nightly 64 bit

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