Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120806

Milozzy · 2012-08-14 17:02:14

I Philip, I wanted to let you know that we Italian 'bangers need some of your love.
I just encountered this problem with the installation of the 20120806 image:

http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/post/251232/#p251232

Is it crunchbang-related or a bug in the debian installer?

Last edited by Milozzy (2012-08-14 17:02:52)

friTTe · 2012-08-15 04:44:40

Updated isos are also available on Linuxtracker

vic · 2012-08-15 13:51:30

Found myself a couple of hours off "life". Burned the 64 iso to a dvd-rw, live it kicked in beautifully as usual, but when installing Grub did not want to install and the apt configuration did not work. So instead of wasting time with reburning etc I dded
the iso to usb and everything went smooth this time. Waldorf looks great, the return of Johns pipe menus is greatly appreciated. Also a plus for the return of Iceweasel, ok with mplayer for now, all in all great stuff as always Philip, thank you.

vrkalak · 2012-08-15 16:13:49

I downloaded #!Wheezy via x64 Torrent. (23 seeders)

Saved to 4 Gb USB via 'dd' terminal method ... both the Netbook and the new laptop recognized the USB-drive but said there was "No Operating System Detected"

Burned to a 2nd 4 Gb USB flash drive using USB Creator (from Mint-13 Xfce) - same result.

Guess, I'll try 'burning' it to a DVD disk next?

Last edited by vrkalak (2012-08-15 16:15:14)

SabreWolfy · 2012-08-15 16:19:25

^ I know you said it was via torrent, but did you check the md5sum just to be sure? You dd'd it to the device, not the partition and sync'd and/or unmounted/restarted?

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slowdriver · 2012-08-15 20:22:42

Phil, thank you, excellent. :):)

I put the .iso onto my USB with the following command:

sudo dd if=/MYLOCATION/crunchbang-11-20120806-i686.iso of=/dev/sd... bs=4M;sync

I installed Waldorf via USB-stick to a Lenovo S10-3. Anything works ootb. Additionally I installed Dropbox, Libreoffice and icedove iceowl-extension enigmail iceweasel radiotray zim pidgin gpodder audacious gmusicbrowser gdebi cheese nautilus-image-manipulator unetbootin pwgen grsync filezilla virtualbox gnome-system-monitor gnome-system-tools.
Keep on with your work, that might be much more rewarding than beeing an "employee".

Cheers, Peter from Germany

PS: I enjoy Wadorf's comments a lot!

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vrkalak · 2012-08-15 21:33:40

I did get the new #!Waldorf to work via a "new" 4Gb USB flash-drive. Installed to my AAO 10" Netbook - so far.

UPDATE: I even installed #!Waldorf 20120806 on my new Thinkpad X1. OOTB

Last edited by vrkalak (2012-08-16 01:31:53)

sagesparrow · 2012-08-16 15:51:26

I finally did a new install of the new version. I've been using it for some days. It works and looks great. Seems more polished that the previous Waldorf. Little things: I really appreciate using the dynamic search with synaptic over the previous static search box. Also once I got the hang of it, ARandR is a nice improvement over GRandR imho. Still had to disable compositing as it played havoc with conky/main right click menu/thunar windows. I'm giving mplayer a fair shake though I will probably add vlc soon.

I think I'm finding enjoyment from doing a new install periodically just for the fun and risk of causing a problem and the clean, squeaky feel of a new setup. Could this develop into OCD, where I have to do a clean install everyday?!

SabreWolfy · 2012-08-16 15:56:35

^ Just boot a live CD every day

sagesparrow · 2012-08-16 16:13:41

^ There's no kick from that!

SabreWolfy · 2012-08-16 16:16:56

^ Fair enough. You want to live on the edge

jaws222 · 2012-08-16 17:40:49

I started with Crunchbang 10 Statler and love it. That one is based on Debian stable. I tried the release after that (the earlier Waldorf) in a virtualbox and had issues. I still have my Statler and absolutely love it! Is the new Waldorf still based on Wheezy?

pidsley · 2012-08-16 17:47:13

Yes, but it's based on Wheezy because eventually Wheezy will become the new stable. No one knows exactly when that will be ("when it's ready"). Until then Waldorf will change as it tracks Wheezy and as corenominal makes changes. You can also (of course) stick with Statler; it's based on Squeeze, the current stable. Eventually Squeeze will be replaced by Wheezy.

For more information about the three Debian branches, see: http://www.debian.org/releases/

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jaws222 · 2012-08-16 18:49:50

Thanks for the info. Yes, it is Squeeze. I know in Ubuntu, Fedora or even Mint when a distro hits its end of life there are no more security updates but Debian does rolling releases, correct? I'm just wondering if I will eventually need to point my repository to Wheezy or will I still have support under Squeeze?

pidsley wrote:

Yes, but it's based on Wheezy because eventually Wheezy will become the new stable. No one knows exactly when that will be ("when it's ready"). Until then Waldorf will change as it tracks Wheezy and as corenominal makes changes. You can also (of course) stick with Statler; it's based on Squeeze, the current stable. Eventually Squeeze will be replaced by Wheezy.
For more information about the three Debian branches, see: http://www.debian.org/releases/

pidsley · 2012-08-16 19:14:16

Debian does not do rolling releases. If you check that link I gave you, you will see the older "stable" releases are no longer supported. I don't know how long the "old" stable releases are supported after there is a "new" stable. Eventually you will need to use Wheezy, but you can wait.

pfsams · 2012-08-16 21:02:18

jaws222 wrote:

I started with Crunchbang 10 Statler and love it. That one is based on Debian stable. I tried the release after that (the earlier Waldorf) in a virtualbox and had issues. I still have my Statler and absolutely love it! Is the new Waldorf still based on Wheezy?

When Debian releases a new stable release, the next one of course is Wheezy, they will support squeeze for one year after the release of Wheezy. The release date for Wheezy is estimated I think to be February 2013, however Debian has a "release when ready" policy. The last time I read their page, they still had 600 release critical bugs, those will have to be resolved before Wheezy is released as stable. Debian in the years that I've used it is often later than planned with their releases which is good since it doesn't release as stable until "it's right." Wheezy should be as stable as Squeeze when it goes stable if the past is any indication.

jaws222 · 2012-08-16 22:05:07

Thanks for the info guys. You sure are well-informed and on top of your Linux game.

pfsams wrote:

jaws222 wrote:
I started with Crunchbang 10 Statler and love it. That one is based on Debian stable. I tried the release after that (the earlier Waldorf) in a virtualbox and had issues. I still have my Statler and absolutely love it! Is the new Waldorf still based on Wheezy?
When Debian releases a new stable release, the next one of course is Wheezy, they will support squeeze for one year after the release of Wheezy. The release date for Wheezy is estimated I think to be February 2013, however Debian has a "release when ready" policy. The last time I read their page, they still had 600 release critical bugs, those will have to be resolved before Wheezy is released as stable. Debian in the years that I've used it is often later than planned with their releases which is good since it doesn't release as stable until "it's right." Wheezy should be as stable as Squeeze when it goes stable if the past is any indication.

Ragnarok · 2012-08-17 04:23:48

• "For the first time, the CrunchBang builds exceed the 700MiB CD limit. I feel that this is unfortunate, but reaching and exceeding the limit was possibly inevitable. If this something that you would like to comment on, please refer to the existing forum thread: Is it time to drop the 700MiB CD Limit?"

I still use CD-RWs

• "News from the Bike Shed Painting Committee: following an interesting forum debate, Iceweasel makes a return as the default browser, replacing Chromium."

Hmm, normally I would agree that Iceweasel/Firefox is best as the default browser, but after seeing the recent nightlies, I'm not sure what to think anymore. I'm currently running Iceweasel 16.0a2 from the Debian Mozilla team APT repository and it has issues with HTML5. I can't even manage my Mediafire files Downloads are now managed through your "Library," the same place your bookmarks and history are managed, which really doesn't "feel" right with the GUI design (may change before final release). Anyway, these are just my opinions and experiences, YMMV.

• "As requested, ClipIt has replaced Parcellite as the default clipboard manager."

The only thing I found that I liked about ClipIt over Parcellite is that it uses your icon themes icon if available.

Things I dislike about Clipit:
1) Doesn't allow me to clear history from the icon context menu.
I have to open "Manage History" and select "Remove All" which I find to be quite vexing when I just want to clear my clipboard to make room for a series of copies so that they are easier to keep track of.
2) Doesn't have the trim white space option.
3) Doesn't correctly copy/paste sometimes.
I'll copy something, go to paste it and it doesn't paste or it pastes weird symbols. (it's in the clipboard/history)

These are just my opinions and experiences. I see nothing wrong with your choices and I'm quite happy with the changes. It's too bad though, I won't be able to try it out for a while. 1. I don't have a free USB to put #! on. 2. I'm busy preparing/setting up my first semester of college and classes start on the 27th

Thanks for all the hard work you put into #!

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pvsage · 2012-08-17 05:24:10

...regarding the question of oldstable support...
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOldStable

gnomic · 2012-08-17 05:43:55

Live session here with 32-bit pae edition, first run. Erm, a couple of issues. Poor old user crunchbang is apparently not authorised to connect wirelessly. NM spits the dummy with a message to that effect. Using an ethernet cable is OK. Secondly, when I connect a USB HD, the system blithely ignores it, even when running Thunar as root. The following output from dmesg may be relevant?

371.296076] usb 1-3: reset high-speed USB device number 4 using ehci_hcd
[ 414.606489] JFS: nTxBlock = 7055, nTxLock = 56445
[ 415.182114] SGI XFS with ACLs, security attributes, realtime, large block/inode numbers, no debug enabled
[ 415.182539] SGI XFS Quota Management subsystem
[ 417.436098] usb 1-3: reset high-speed USB device number 4 using ehci_hcd
[ 422.784089] usb 1-3: reset high-speed USB device number 4 using ehci_hcd

Hmmm. Not quite right in saying the system ignores USB attached volume. User crunchbang's Thunar can see the drive but is not authorised to mount it. Dashed if I know what root's Thunar is up to.

Are these features? Or user crunchbang needs to acquire higher powers in the live session by a long and arduous trial of prowess? Am I missing something here? Don't recall similar phenomena with earlier CB.

kdb · 2012-08-17 11:04:20

hey ho,

the mobile videoplayer was not nice to me [",]
but install compleded... over a dvd-rw...

some problems but it runns like hell...
problem1:
my mouse is a saitec/madcatz cyborg R.A.T-5
the mode selector switch select the level on the desktop...
means i have to switch the mode to select a window
or a button and after this can i use the left or right mouse-
button to use the function. this problem seems to be linux...

problem2:
my wlan dongle is recognized but the networkapp
act like i give the wrong psw... with win7_x64 works the same psw...

problem3:
my printer/scanner is in my wlan aviable for windows but
i did not found a way to use him in my network...
the wlan-dongle problem was purged with a network cable...

problem4: [solved]
in the last install step (grub install) was the installer not able to find my win7...
i used the mbr of my second hdd wich is onbound over (physicaly sata) ide...
now is in the grub cfg win7 recognized... and aviable...

actuall no big problem... :-]

greetz kdb

australis · 2012-08-18 02:33:20

Hi Philip,
I had some problem installing 486 version.The installer stops with the message,soon after partitioning (manually):

Failure trying to run: chroot/target mount -t proc proc/proc

?

australis · 2012-08-18 04:28:11

[Solved]

australis wrote:

Hi Philip,
I had some problem installing 486 version.The installer stops with the message,soon after partitioning (manually):
Failure trying to run: chroot/target mount -t proc proc/proc
?

Localization issue.Works, in English.

Milozzy · 2012-08-18 07:20:11

australis wrote:

[Solved]
australis wrote:
Hi Philip,
I had some problem installing 486 version.The installer stops with the message,soon after partitioning (manually):
Failure trying to run: chroot/target mount -t proc proc/proc
?
Localization issue.Works, in English.

I can confirm, I had the same issues...
You must install with English, and then after the first boot, you can change localization with

sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales

by unchecking us_US.UTF-8 and selecting your favorite language, in my case it_IT.UTF-8

australis · 2012-08-18 16:39:04

Milozzy wrote:

australis wrote:
[Solved]
australis wrote:
Hi Philip,
I had some problem installing 486 version.The installer stops with the message,soon after partitioning (manually):
Failure trying to run: chroot/target mount -t proc proc/proc
?
Localization issue.Works, in English.
I can confirm, I had the same issues...
You must install with English, and then after the first boot, you can change localization with
sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
by unchecking us_US.UTF-8 and selecting your favorite language, in my case it_IT.UTF-8

OK! Working. I solved the issue about installation reading yours post above.
Works fine, but it's still a little bug in thunar, already signaled in other testing distros (like Antix).Not a great matter as Debian will come out with xfce by default.
Thanks for help && grazie.

CrunchBang Linux

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