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#1 2012-02-09 16:53:53

sqlpython
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Best Choice for Kernels?

I know the question is subjective and personal taste but..................
I'm a Debian guy and I run Stable, Testing and Unstable versions of various Distros.
The point of my question is has to do with that with the latest Statler updated Images. I took Corenominal's offer in his announcement and also installed the 3.2 i686 kernel as well as the gdm logon...

Anyway, as #!CrunchBang is a blindingly fast custom work,  I don't want to muck it up..

So, what experiences are others having with Kernel choices in CrunchBang... Pros and Cons?

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#2 2012-02-09 17:00:16

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Re: Best Choice for Kernels?

People like Liquorix kernels. They're not designed to run with Stable, so you can install the kernel, but not the headers. You can alter the debs and revert all the references to the GCC version in Stable and build the headers, people often share Liquorix kernels built for Stable on the Debian forums. You can try the slh (aptosid) and towo (siduction) kernels if you're on Sid. I stay with the Debian provided kernels, they offer the most reliability and performance.

of course, nothing equals building your own kernel if you have the patience to wait for the compile to finish (it takes about 1,5 hours on my machine).

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#3 2012-02-09 17:15:51

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Re: Best Choice for Kernels?

^ is building your own kernel a difficult thing to do? because i feel i need to venture deeper into the linux-rainforests..

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#4 2012-02-09 18:03:57

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Re: Best Choice for Kernels?

nup, pretty easy. you got a help section during the configuring. it just takes a while.

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#5 2012-02-09 19:23:11

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Re: Best Choice for Kernels?

rhowaldt wrote:

^ is building your own kernel a difficult thing to do? because i feel i need to venture deeper into the linux-rainforests..

http://www.howopensource.com/2011/08/ho … and-10-04/

wink works same for debian

+ check out "localmodconfig"

google it!


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#6 2012-02-09 20:14:38

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Re: Best Choice for Kernels?

The Liquorix kernels are intended for desktop/laptop use and optimized for that.

The Debian kernels are intended for server use and optimized for that.

Liquorix does not have a PAE kernel, so if you have a 32 bit computer with 4 gb or more of RAM you either use the Debian kernel or build your own.


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#7 2012-02-09 20:39:51

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Re: Best Choice for Kernels?

2 cents off limited experience ... Hard 2 say from what I've seen.

Can depend on your hardware blahblahblah. Good news is as long as ya go about the process with a wee bit of common sense and/or how your hdd is setup, no harm done. Can install/uninstall a bunch and see how they work for you.


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#8 2012-02-09 20:58:24

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Re: Best Choice for Kernels?

Thanks for all the feedback..
No, personally, I have no intention of building a Kernel. Besides so many good choices already are out there.
I used Liquorix most of the time Squeeze was in Testing mode and a bit in Lenny.

Like I noted, most of my apps (browser included) really Zoom with CrunchBang. Don't know how much of that to attribute to the Kernel but I do want to keep the performance level where it is now.
I will say that I do not discern any immediate gain/loss in performance with Kernel 3.2..
Nothing is slower in the Animal Kingdom then waiting for a Jython creation to load in first time and this happens neatly with #!.. smile
( OK, maybe I exaggerate just a bit)

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#9 2012-02-09 23:09:57

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Re: Best Choice for Kernels?

@xe3tec: you are right, of course, in that i could've just Googled it smile
however, what i like about asking a question around here is that people usually give you a little bit more info, opinions etc. so aside from just forgetting to Google it, that's the other reason i asked here big_smile

thanks for the link, will be reading it.

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#10 2012-02-10 12:07:03

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Re: Best Choice for Kernels?

rhowaldt wrote:

@xe3tec: you are right, of course, in that i could've just Googled it smile
however, what i like about asking a question around here is that people usually give you a little bit more info, opinions etc. so aside from just forgetting to Google it, that's the other reason i asked here big_smile

thanks for the link, will be reading it.

well I provided all neccesary information tongue
actually there is nothing more, except checking out the config by yourself


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#11 2012-02-10 17:05:39

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Re: Best Choice for Kernels?

el_koraco wrote:

People like Liquorix kernels. They're not designed to run with Stable, so you can install the kernel, but not the headers.

This means that you can't compile stuff if you're running #! Statler with the Liqorix kernel?


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#12 2012-02-11 17:05:24

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Re: Best Choice for Kernels?

You can still compile programs and everything without headers. What you can't do without headers is install drivers. If you don't need third party drivers, you should be golden without headers.

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#13 2012-02-11 18:37:03

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Re: Best Choice for Kernels?

johnraff wrote:
el_koraco wrote:

People like Liquorix kernels. They're not designed to run with Stable, so you can install the kernel, but not the headers.

This means that you can't compile stuff if you're running #! Statler with the Liqorix kernel?

You can't compile out of tree drivers. Stuff like fglrx or nvidia.

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#14 2012-02-12 03:59:34

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Re: Best Choice for Kernels?

I have been working with Liquorix and want to try the 3.0.16-i686 Kernel with -rt option

focused on this now - an apt repo source would be great:)

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#15 2012-02-12 04:17:26

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Re: Best Choice for Kernels?

I actually just downgraded to the 2.6.36 Liquorix kernel from the old Statler repos, and the temperature issues I had with my laptop have stopped.

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#16 2012-02-12 04:35:07

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Re: Best Choice for Kernels?

compromise, just installed and booted into 2.6.33 .... now  testing

uname -a

2.6.33.7.2-rt30-1-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Mon Jan 17 14:22:44 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux

showing the RT - that I did not see with 2.6.36 Liquorix

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#17 2012-02-12 08:57:55

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Re: Best Choice for Kernels?

2.6.33.7.2-rt30-1-686 - worked = OK

Then I found and installed w/ the headers:

linux-image-3.2.0-5.dmz.1-liquorix-686

shows in grub boot options, but will not boot - Kernel goes "panic" mode and system freezes

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