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#376 2011-11-02 01:36:31

orionthehunter
#! Constellation
From: Japan
Registered: 2011-04-09
Posts: 967
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Re: Why do you use #!Crunchbang

cassielfsw wrote:

*It's got a cool name. Nothing stupid like "Mandriva". That's important, you know. wink

+1, though I really do like what Mageia's done with the distro, theme, community, and the name :-D

cassielfsw wrote:

In general, #! strikes the right balance between "it just works and I don't have to mess with it" and "but I can mess with it if I want to."

+1

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#377 2011-11-02 10:10:40

crunchworksyeay
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Registered: 2011-06-26
Posts: 292

Re: Why do you use #!Crunchbang

I wonder how many other linux users (%) took this very same road as cassielfsw and I.

(x)Ubuntu -> Debian -> #! -> Arch(bang)

Edit: Oops, forgot, my second stop was Mint, which is based on Ubuntu anyway.
It lured me in with it's "elegance". Mint looked pretty cool a certain version, but since then, it's like they are trying too hard. I don't know about you, but not even the Mint logo is elegant anymore, "#!" on the other hand comes through as clean despite all that criss-cross and edges.

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#378 2011-11-06 02:57:09

apsoul
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Registered: 2011-10-25
Posts: 19

Re: Why do you use #!Crunchbang

I use #! because even though I didn't have to, I've learned more about Linux in 1 month's use than I did in 2 years of Ubuntu.

My Linux experience is a bit thin with 2ish years on Ubuntu with a couple days spent on a few other big "easy" distro's and a few futile attempts at high maintenance no gui-install types. I was in a screenshot forum and saw someone singing their praises of #!. I gave it a try and it was perfect. It was completely functional out of the box, fast, nice intro script, Debian base/repositories, and provided the perfect venue for me to learn the intricacies of Linux.

I am working on becoming linux savvy enough to re-write a kernel, and tailor a perfect-for-me system... until then there is #!

~Apsoul

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#379 2011-11-08 23:24:24

treki
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From: Switzerland
Registered: 2011-11-08
Posts: 9

Re: Why do you use #!Crunchbang

Versuche viele Linux Distributionen aus. CrunchBang hatte ich vor 2 Jahren mal ausprobiert (auf der Suche nach Resourcen-sparenden Betriebssystemen). Wenn ich heute schaue, hat CB sehr gewachsen. SUPER. Wenn Ubuntu halt nur noch neue Computer unterstützen will, bitte....CrunchBang macht halt den grossen Rest.


"Ich weiß nicht, mit welchen Waffen wir im 3. Weltkrieg kämpfen werden, aber im 4. werden wir uns wieder mit Keulen prügeln."
(Albert Einstein)

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#380 2011-11-09 08:24:30

h8uthemost
#! Junkie
Registered: 2011-08-09
Posts: 302

Re: Why do you use #!Crunchbang

apsoul wrote:

I use #! because even though I didn't have to, I've learned more about Linux in 1 month's use than I did in 2 years of Ubuntu.

My feelings exactly. Ubuntu keeps you so 'sheltered' that you really don't learn anything about your Linux system. And like you said I've learned more about within the couple months of using #! then I did the whole time with Ubuntu and its derivatives. Pretty sad actually.

Anyways, moving to #! was the best move I've made for my computer.


We are a nice, friendly community here and I hope we stay that way.

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#381 2011-11-09 11:26:04

kowloonboy
#! Junkie
Registered: 2011-10-13
Posts: 443

Re: Why do you use #!Crunchbang

I started computing, when i used to go to work with my dad in his office in the weekend. Yes, Hong Kong people does work crazy hours. so the IT manager saw that i was bored, so he showed me how to use a computer, to do little programming. The box was a IBM PC-XT, running DOS with Green and Black monitor, I used that for about 2 years, every saturaday. Then when i moved to the UK, i was introduced in school to the BBC computer also known as Acorn computer But i never actually had my own computer until, the spectum zx, then commodore 64.

But i still have access to IBM 286, then 386, and 486 in the office which my father work. I then start working for my dad, and build his network with Netware 3 and NT3, then NT4. i got into the love of pheaking, then progress to hacking, when the Internet arrived. That is  around the time I got into Linux. I worked for many InfoSec companies, specialist in Ethical Hacking, War dialing, Audit, Social Engineering, Infrastructure and Application Security, Forensic and Incident Response. Helping mostly government, law enforcement, and lots of blue chip.

I was using Slackware and Debian. Because of work I need to dual boot or vm windows and Backtrack linux. I then worked for 2 Telco, so I had played with many brand of firewall, IDS, Unix, mainframe, and phone exchanges for internet backbone, landline and mobile network.  Now that I quit working for the BIG4, I am now a InfoSec Contractor which mainly help the Goverment and Banking sector.  Since I am now self employed, I wanted to found the fastest Linux around, because Backtrack Linux is so slooow... after googling for a while. I shortlist from all the supposed fast Linux distro, and now became a CrunchBang Addict. I have #! on my work laptop, and most of my other PCs. smile

Sorry about the long story.

KB

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"To me, the extraordinary aspect of martial arts lies in its simplicity. The easy way is also the right way, and martial arts is nothing at all special; the closer to the true way of martial arts, the less wastage of expression there is." - Bruce Lee

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#382 2011-11-09 22:10:09

raoulduke
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From: Anglesey
Registered: 2011-07-14
Posts: 33

Re: Why do you use #!Crunchbang

I'm still a fairly low-level user, despite using Linux for around 3 years, mainly because I've never had the time to really get my head around the techy side of things. I've also always been stuck with fairly feeble machinery, so my options were limited... the great thing about #! is that it's user-friendly enough to handle the usual tasks in a straight-forward way for a newbie, but it also encourages you to learn how to do more technical stuff and to figure out how everything actually works.
I've recently got a faster laptop, and was running Ubuntu for a while, but got fed up with all the unnecessary bloat, most of which didn't seem to even do anything useful, so came back to #! for the whole stripped-down simplicity.

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#383 2011-11-10 07:52:20

AlexMex90
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From: Mexicali, Mexico
Registered: 2009-07-09
Posts: 182

Re: Why do you use #!Crunchbang

Well I don't currently use CrunchBang, but I stumbled with it when it was still based in Ubuntu (9.04) and I loved it, it was very fast! in that time my laptop had limited RAM (512MB) and every byte was crucial, standard ubuntu ran just OK but tended to turn slower after some time running.

My laptop was finally upgraded and I currently run Debian Stable+Backports, but the things I learned when I used #! helped me a lot to move in the Linux world!


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Waldorf: After that... I'm running away!

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#384 2011-11-15 23:48:58

thunk
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From: hereabouts
Registered: 2011-10-15
Posts: 39

Re: Why do you use #!Crunchbang

I use it because it's hands down the best Linux distro I've ever tried (and I've tried a lot of them!).
What sealed the deal for me, to make the switch to #! as my main OS on both my Desktop and my Laptop, was the Debian base..absolutely brilliant move..

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#385 2011-11-15 23:59:57

fanchig
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Registered: 2011-11-15
Posts: 3

Re: Why do you use #!Crunchbang

hi!
i use crunchbang because it's debian-based,light weight,seems really stable,and because i'm sick of big distros like fedora or ubuntu for example...

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#386 2011-11-18 20:29:11

radiohead
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Registered: 2011-10-30
Posts: 4

Re: Why do you use #!Crunchbang

I thought I'd share my CrunchBang  project in case anyone is attempting to do something similar.

Objective - Build a headless internet radio player for the bedroom (hence my user name)

Hardware

  • OBJECTIVE - Silent system with no moving parts

  • MOTHERBOARD - VIA EPIA-EN12000EG   (This was lying around from a previous project)

  • RAM - 1 GB

  • DISK - 16 GB SSD Disk On Module  (DOM)

  • REMOTE - Credit Card style Remote Control with USB Receiver

  • AMPLIFIER - Tripath TA2024

  • SPEAKERS - Some old 3 way speakers I had lying around

Software

  • OS - CrunchBang 10 (Removed some unnecessary components such as AbiWord, Conky, Tint etc)

  • CONNECTIVITYy - OpenSSH  &  X11VNC

  • TIMESYNC - ntpdate (configured as a daily cron job)

  • AUDIO - CVLC  (Command line version of VLC as bundled with CrunchBang)

  • SCRIPTS - Radio Scripts written in bash

            - Run from a single Terminator window on startup
            - Remote keys assigned to stations and volume
            - Sleep function with fading volume
            - Wake up function with rising volume

I initially tested CrunchBang under  VMWare while I waited for the DOM disk to arrive. Once I had the disk, most of the installation and configuration was managed in just 3 hours. After a week of use, I've found performance to be rock solid with no glitches.

Next steps are to connect this to some windows shares where I keep my music library.

Many thanks to the CrunchBang team !

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#387 2011-11-19 02:43:24

orionthehunter
#! Constellation
From: Japan
Registered: 2011-04-09
Posts: 967
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Re: Why do you use #!Crunchbang

radiohead wrote:

I thought I'd share my CrunchBang  project in case anyone is attempting to do something similar.

Objective - Build a headless internet radio player for the bedroom (hence my user name)

Hardware

  • OBJECTIVE - Silent system with no moving parts

  • MOTHERBOARD - VIA EPIA-EN12000EG   (This was lying around from a previous project)

  • RAM - 1 GB

  • DISK - 16 GB SSD Disk On Module  (DOM)

  • REMOTE - Credit Card style Remote Control with USB Receiver

  • AMPLIFIER - Tripath TA2024

  • SPEAKERS - Some old 3 way speakers I had lying around

Software

  • OS - CrunchBang 10 (Removed some unnecessary components such as AbiWord, Conky, Tint etc)

  • CONNECTIVITYy - OpenSSH  &  X11VNC

  • TIMESYNC - ntpdate (configured as a daily cron job)

  • AUDIO - CVLC  (Command line version of VLC as bundled with CrunchBang)

  • SCRIPTS - Radio Scripts written in bash

            - Run from a single Terminator window on startup
            - Remote keys assigned to stations and volume
            - Sleep function with fading volume
            - Wake up function with rising volume

I initially tested CrunchBang under  VMWare while I waited for the DOM disk to arrive. Once I had the disk, most of the installation and configuration was managed in just 3 hours. After a week of use, I've found performance to be rock solid with no glitches.

Next steps are to connect this to some windows shares where I keep my music library.

Many thanks to the CrunchBang team !

Sounds pretty sweet, is there any reason you're even booting into X?  I think you'd save some power expenditure by removing X.org from the process and just running from the TTY instead of using Terminator.

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#388 2011-11-19 05:11:24

M_Mynaardt
#! CrunchBanger
From: Saanich, BC, CAnada
Registered: 2011-04-11
Posts: 136

Re: Why do you use #!Crunchbang

I have done a lot of distro hopping the past year or so; when I decided to give Mi¢ro$oft Windoze the old kiss-off!  During that time I became rather partial to the Xfce DE.  More than enough eye-candy fru-fra for myself, and it uses less resources than GNOME or KDE.

So, when I stumbled on #! Xfce, I decided to give it a go.  It took a little more work to install it than I was used to with Ubuntu-based Distros, but it works just fine.  I've had #! Xfce installed on my Toshiba A100 Satellite laptop and my old Certified Data (in-house brand name for London Drugs) desktop for a few months now and haven't really experienced any problems at all.

I'm quite happy with #!, I am!
cool


~*~  M_Mynaardt  ~*~

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#389 2011-11-19 06:12:59

BoredOOMM
#! Junkie
From: 36.0718,-119.03519
Registered: 2011-06-19
Posts: 353

Re: Why do you use #!Crunchbang

orionthehunter wrote:
radiohead wrote:

I thought I'd share my CrunchBang  project in case anyone is attempting to do something similar.

Objective - Build a headless internet radio player for the bedroom (hence my user name)

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Sounds pretty sweet, is there any reason you're even booting into X?  I think you'd save some power expenditure by removing X.org from the process and just running from the TTY instead of using Terminator.

A photo would make this an interesting consideration.


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#390 2011-11-19 20:24:06

radiohead
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Registered: 2011-10-30
Posts: 4

Re: Why do you use #!Crunchbang

BoredOOMM wrote:
orionthehunter wrote:
radiohead wrote:

I thought I'd share my CrunchBang  project in case anyone is attempting to do something similar.

Objective - Build a headless internet radio player for the bedroom (hence my user name)

[

Sounds pretty sweet, is there any reason you're even booting into X?  I think you'd save some power expenditure by removing X.org from the process and just running from the TTY instead of using Terminator.

A photo would make this an interesting consideration.

The reason for using X is ease of configuration, I'm relatively new to Linux. I was thinking about dropping the gui once i was more familiar with crunchbang but when playing radio, the CPU rarely goes above 5% so I'll just leave things as they are.

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#391 2011-11-23 02:47:23

Matt3223
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Registered: 2010-01-22
Posts: 30

Re: Why do you use #!Crunchbang

I am firmly in the camp of using #! because, number one, it's awesome, but also that I too learn things at a more fulfilling and enjoyable pace. Have been hopping all around for a few years, usually have 2-3 distros installed on partitions. Finally came back around to #! this week, and right off learned how to edit up fstab to mount all my partitions.

Much easier to move files around now while hopping between them! Why I hadn't already learned this, I don't know, but #! did it!

Thanks again #! and the #! community!

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#392 2011-11-24 06:33:06

xdunlapx
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Registered: 2011-11-24
Posts: 5

Re: Why do you use #!Crunchbang

I like #! because it's fast and easily customizable. I just installed it after trying it out via my flash drive. So far I love it! I am using the xfce version but did install openbox to give that a try as well. I've used linux since 2002 (99% of the time). I'm comfortable with cli so that makes it all that much easier. I like the fact that my wireless works oob in #! because it simply doesn't work in debian without having to have the ucode firmware on a separate disk during install. Then that usually doesn't work either. I like debian and ubuntu based systems, mainly the ease of installing apps from repos. I do wish Jupiter or Touchpad-Indicator was in the repos though. I hate having to modprobe -r my touchpad at every login. I use a wireless mouse instead on my laptop.

So far that's what I like about #!. Thanks for a great distro!

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#393 2011-12-09 19:51:38

Weeking
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From: 1984
Registered: 2011-12-09
Posts: 17

Re: Why do you use #!Crunchbang

(Laptop install with Openbox)
* Fast boot
* Full disk encryption option on install (I assumed it would support encrypted mounts be default and that was actually more important though.)
* More lightweight than XFCE which I use on my main computer and earlier on my laptop, and I hate the programs that usually comes with XFCE, GNOME and KDE, while preferring the desktop environment independent ones like VLC anyway.
* My previous OS on it didn't have any of those and was bloated, buggy, slow and a mess since I had installed all Kubuntu, Xubuntu on my Ubuntu install and removed lots of core programs.

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#394 2011-12-14 23:11:46

Historic
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From: Vancouver, Canada
Registered: 2011-03-05
Posts: 5

Re: Why do you use #!Crunchbang

Through my my adventures distro hopping, it is by far the fastest distro I've ever used. It makes my netbook feel like a full fledged PC in terms of speed.

I've really come to appreciate the stability of Debian Stable. It may be a little older, but it's rock-solid.

Plus, as I tend to break things often, a 15-20 minute install from USB is important. big_smile

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#395 2011-12-16 08:20:32

stavros
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Registered: 2011-12-16
Posts: 41

Re: Why do you use #!Crunchbang

Hello, I started testing CB in virtualbox at first and I find it fast for this kind of use (Lubuntu a bit heavier). wink
A few things are missing though. Getting used not to have icons on the desktop is one thing. The most important piece missing is a launcher (like Wbar). It should be installed by default IMHO. tongue. I have some questions to make, but that is another post smile


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#396 2011-12-16 13:50:41

orionthehunter
#! Constellation
From: Japan
Registered: 2011-04-09
Posts: 967
Website

Re: Why do you use #!Crunchbang

Stavros, as in from William and Mary Stavros?

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#397 2011-12-16 18:25:24

straycatstrat
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From: Massena, NY
Registered: 2011-12-14
Posts: 25
Website

Re: Why do you use #!Crunchbang

Hmm...well, I had a little story in my intro thread, but, what the hell, I'll go ahead and add more detail as well big_smile

Back in 2004, I read in a MaximumPC magazine about them building a sweet rig for under $500, and they used Ubuntu 04.10. When I heard about that, I looked at the magazine and said "What? What the hell is 'Ubuntu'?" So, I followed along and went to check out the website, requested some free CDs. When they came in, I tried out the LiveCD first, and then from there, I was hooked. I did more digging around for more Linux distributions, but only really liked Ubuntu. So now we're going to fast-forward to April of 2011, when 11.04 was released. I had been using Ubuntu and Arch in this time, on different computers. When I had upgraded to 11.04, I began to hate it. The look was ugly, and it took much longer to boot. So, at this point, I said "To hell with Ubuntu, I'm going to make the full switch to Arch, I just DON'T want to sit here for HOURS configuring and what-not...but oh well". So, now we're going to fast-forward to September 2011, when I had moved from Oklahoma to upstate New York. I had only brought my laptop with me, leaving my other computers down with my mother. When I got here, a friend gave me an old computer and said "Here, this thing doesn't work, I want to see if you can put some magic in it and bring it back to life". I looked at it, and it's a Compaq Presario 6000 (6331rsh to be more precise). I shrugged my shoulders, installed Arch on it, but it didn't run too well. Kept stuttering, and locking up. So, I was said to myself "This isn't a good sign." I then proceeded to see what I could do, looking around for lightweight distros (It's got an AMD Athlon XP @ 1.8 GHz, 768 MB DDR RAM, and onboard graphics). I then remembered about Ubuntu's sister distro, Xubuntu built to be light. So, I tried that. Surprisingly, this computer ran Xubuntu with no problems. Stuttered a little with Flash, but other than that, it ran pretty smooth. Now we're going to fast-forward again a few months, December 2011, when I discovered #!. I was on the lookout for lighter distros, something that would catch my attention. Did a Google search for lightweight Linux distributions, and stumbled upon a site that talked about lightweight distros. Xubuntu, Puppy, #!, and DSL were on that list. I had used all but #!. So, I said "Eh, what harm could it do?" I proceeded to this website, downloaded it, burned it disc, rebooted, and loaded #! from the disc. It loaded quick. My first impression was a winner for #! - loads quick, even from LiveCD. So, running from the LiveCD, I continued to browse through, get my feel of everything to see if I liked it. I didn't really stick on the LiveCD for long. I restared the computer, and installed it. Surprisingly to me, the installation went by pretty quick also. Rebooted the computer into the new installation, and it runs very smooth. Flash runs pretty good until you give it attention lol

So, I use #! because it runs extremely smooth on this desktop, and I'm thinking about putting it on my laptop big_smile


"He who controls the past, command the future.
He who controls the future, conquers the past"
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#398 2011-12-16 18:29:26

dubois
The Old Codger
From: Missoula, Montana
Registered: 2010-09-03
Posts: 2,238

Re: Why do you use #!Crunchbang

[chant]Laptop!  Laptop!  Laptop![/chant]

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#399 2011-12-16 18:38:44

straycatstrat
Member
From: Massena, NY
Registered: 2011-12-14
Posts: 25
Website

Re: Why do you use #!Crunchbang

Lol laptop is weaker than this desktop xD Acer Aspire 3000. AMD Sempron @ 1.8 GHz, 256 MB RAM, SiS video chipset lmao


"He who controls the past, command the future.
He who controls the future, conquers the past"
- Kane as seen at the end of the installation of Command and Conquer Red Alert

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#400 2011-12-16 18:50:33

ivanovnegro
Ivan #000000
From: unstable madness
Registered: 2011-06-02
Posts: 5,432

Re: Why do you use #!Crunchbang

@straycatstrat: Welcome to the #! world!

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