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#1 2015-09-25 09:05:01

Source
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Installing latest Blender - approach?

Hey,

Just switched from Linux Mint to Bunsen's Crunchbang.

I am wondering about the approach of installing the latest blender version outside of the stable one offered by the menu?

My question - what is the cleanest method of installing a 'unstable' package on crunchbang?

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#2 2015-09-25 09:31:16

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Re: Installing latest Blender - approach?

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#3 2015-09-25 12:22:44

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#4 2015-09-25 15:40:46

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Re: Installing latest Blender - approach?

Will this stand-alone method work with any package? Or just certain ones? I've done this approach as well with FreeFileSync in Crunchbang and it worked fine.

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#5 2015-09-25 16:01:15

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#6 2015-09-25 21:15:34

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#7 2015-09-25 21:31:51

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Re: Installing latest Blender - approach?

Thank you very much people. I went with the backport repo style, as I am still learning the ropes in crunchbang.

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#8 2015-09-26 22:13:08

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Re: Installing latest Blender - approach?

There are two models of development among OS's. The monolithic approach that Windows prefers, and the shared libraries approach that Linux uses. Shared libraries are nice because they require less system overhead, are easier to keep updated and secure and take up less disk space. However, you entire Linux system depends on a few key libraries. One notable example of this is gcc, the Gnu c compiler. If a developer chooses to use a version newer than what is available in Debian's repositories, you end up sort of stuck in an unsolvable dependency. One way around this is to use a monolithic approach, which is what the folks above are discussing. Blender acknowledges that problem and is offering stand-alone versions so folks can try out newer versions of Blender and, probably more importantly, gain access to new features that otherwise would drive you to Windows to utilize.

Standalone apps do have their drawbacks in terms of increased disc space, potentially more memory overhead, plus everytime a library gets a security patch, say, each individual app has to be updated to reflect that update as opposed to the typical Linux way, in which one update takes care of it all. 

Another example of the monolithic approach is Windows now offers a free open-source code editor, called MS code editor I believe. I played with it briefly. One of the key points that I noticed about it, is that MS bundled every library they referenced into the app itself, which leads me to believe they either do not understand the Linux architecture yet, are philosophically opposed to it for some strange reason, or are using very new libraries. The key thing is that it basically offered the same functionality as geany with about 4x the overhead.

I am not saying don't use Blender standalone, as that is basically the only way you will get the latest and greatest that Blender has to offer which can be important if you pay attention to Blender's development cycle. What I am saying is that if you require 2.75, the only way to get it in Debian is likely via this method. That, or switch to Arch.

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#9 2015-09-26 22:39:25

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Re: Installing latest Blender - approach?

^ Nice round-up smile

Something else to take into account is if you use a newer nVidia card to use its CUDA/Cycles rendering advantages. A driver upgrade may break the Blender version from apt sources, but the latest standalone Blender seems always to cope with it, in my experience.

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#10 2015-09-26 22:56:10

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#11 2015-09-26 23:05:37

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#12 2015-09-27 00:12:42

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