systemctl status walkintomordor.service
# systemctl start greateagles.service
Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2015-07-22 07:54:51)
no, no, you forgot to
systemctl start gollum.service
btw, intocb, +1 for systemd appreciation avatar!
although, i still think mr poettering's a bitch.
walkintomordor.service Loaded: not-found (Reason: One does not simply walk in to Mordor) Active: inactive (dead)
Failed to issue method call: Unit greateagles.service failed to load: They’ve flown West for the summer.
Failed to issue method call: Unit gollum.service failed to load: Filthy nasty systemdses, precious.
it's the kind of attitude i hate - we are all one big happy huggy family, we do it all out of the goodness of our hearts - except for canonical, redhat and google, of course, but you have to understand that - and if you're annoyed and not nice, you're actually spreading negative energy and threatening to destroy it all - meet the political correctness whiner.
like i said, i don't know enough about systemd to criticize it, but i know this.
1. I am not for or against systemd. I started this thread for the lulz (the highest morality).
2. It's probably me but I don't get your point. Do you think criticism of systemd is whining or unfairly dismissed as whining? Or something else.
For me, criticism of systemd is valid as anything can be criticised. However, what concerns me is that the entire Debian project is now coming in for criticism that it doesn't deserve. Systemd was introduced in 2011. It has since been adopted as default by most distributions and is only forced on you in the way that your local store forces you to buy Nescafé because that's the only coffee it sells.
If the Linux community didn't want systemd, it had to work its way up the dependency chain and fork the necessary stuff. Basically, people have been waiting for commercial companies like Red Hat and SUSE to deliver them "nice" solutions when as commercial companies that's not on their list of priorities. Honestly, people have been half asleep about all this.
Personally, I think it's all being stoked by Microsoft shills. Go back 5 years, take a helicopter view and consider what the game plan of MS shills would have been.
PS. Given that Linus Torvalds has done a lot more to earn our trust, I say we back him against any potential disagreement with systemd devs.
Having said that, LT has clearly indicated that he doesn't see what the fuss is all about with systemd.
It's probably me but I don't get your point. Do you think criticism of systemd is whining or unfairly dismissed as whining? Or something else.
sorry, my post was poorly structured - it was all about the article i linked.
i did some research into Lennart Poettering, because, as I wrote in post #4, i think he's a bitch.
i have nothing against systemd per se, mostly because
1. i don't know enough about it to judge it and
2. i have been using archlinux for two years and it has served me well.
anyhow, while reading up on LP, i got so worked up about this whining sissy (oh! Linus Thorvalds criticized me! i'm hurt! but i'm a good coder, too!). that's why my previous post came out backwards: reaction first, cause last.
i remember reading somewhere that Thorvalds criticized Poettering for putting his ego before good code, when he more-or-less refused to iron out some bugs in systemd. that resonates well with the article i linked. here it is again:
http://www.zdnet.com/article/lennart-po … alds-rant/
read on, i think it's a reasonable piece of journalism and links to some original documents.
i also remember that Thorvalds has no strong opinions for or against systemd itself - as do i.
and for the record, i have encountered LP's attitude elsewhere, many times, not only online, it's not his invention.
i always found it dishonest. how can you strive to make the world a better place when you can't even look your own daemons in the eye.