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#201 2015-08-09 17:01:35

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Re: RELEASED: BunsenLabs 8.1 (Hydrogen) Live ISO 32 & 64 bit (alpha2)

hhh wrote:

there's no way to use an existing swap partition, the installer insists on assigning it a new uuid

There is a way, it's just not well documented.

  • When prompted with "Would you like to install GRUB to the MBR?", choose "No"

  • This is the silly part, now choose the drive you'd normally install GRUB to (the installer will NOT install GRUB there, I promise)

AWESOME!  One question.  With a single HDD, does this still work?


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#202 2015-08-09 19:30:14

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Re: RELEASED: BunsenLabs 8.1 (Hydrogen) Live ISO 32 & 64 bit (alpha2)

Sector11 wrote:

AWESOME!  One question.  With a single HDD, does this still work?

Yes, that's what I have. I choose No to installing Grub, then select /dev/sda and it gets not installed there.  lol


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#203 2015-08-09 21:53:55

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Re: RELEASED: BunsenLabs 8.1 (Hydrogen) Live ISO 32 & 64 bit (alpha2)

I updated the "don't reformat swap" post, since it explains more than just that.


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#204 2015-08-14 05:08:46

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Re: RELEASED: BunsenLabs 8.1 (Hydrogen) Live ISO 32 & 64 bit (alpha2)

ohnonot many thanks for your feedback!

ohnonot wrote:

during bl-welcome:
love the "I understand" bit!
further on, i accidentally pressed enter on the multimedia repos, defaulting to No.
so later i added them manually - i had a look at /usr/lib/bunsen/bunsen-welcome/add-multimedia-repo, and all it seems to do is add the repo & the key & run an update/grade, right?

Correct. You could also have just run the welcome script one more time.

I installed geany, and it automatically changed the default editor to geany, the pipemenus use geany now instead of leafpad. great!
is this bl-magic or just plain debian magic?

bl-magic cool

i don't use compositing.
however, the Tint2 Chooser insists on re-enabling compositing.
[ i might open an issue on github and even suggest a fix ]

We're working on it now. A test

pidof compton >/dev/null || exit 0

in the "restart" section of bl-compositor perhaps? Please post if you have some other ideas.

The Conky and Tint2 choosers could need a 3rd button "Apply" - it's a little annoying having to re-open the chooser everytime I want to look at a different setup.

This sounds nice. Maybe Damo will come up with something...

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If you install Hydrogen to your computer, upgrade your system before proceeding with our Welcome script (bl-welcome)!

this will not go well with the noobs!

Now fixed I think.


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#205 2015-08-14 05:27:51

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Re: RELEASED: BunsenLabs 8.1 (Hydrogen) Live ISO 32 & 64 bit (alpha2)

johnraff wrote:

ohnonot many thanks for your feedback!

ohnonot wrote:

....
The Conky and Tint2 choosers could need a 3rd button "Apply" - it's a little annoying having to re-open the chooser everytime I want to look at a different setup.

This sounds nice. Maybe Damo will come up with something...

Sorry, I missed this comment first time round.

It's a zenity dialog issue - only 1 or 2 buttons are possible AFAICS. I would prefer to use yad, but that is only available in the sid and stretch repos sad

I'll work on a yad version at some point, and incorporate the 'Apply' option, for those running sid/stretch (although yad can be installed from a deb package)


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#206 2015-08-14 05:56:35

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Re: RELEASED: BunsenLabs 8.1 (Hydrogen) Live ISO 32 & 64 bit (alpha2)

hhh wrote:
Sector11 wrote:

AWESOME!  One question.  With a single HDD, does this still work?

Yes, that's what I have. I choose No to installing Grub, then select /dev/sda and it gets not installed there.  lol

This could be what you are looking for.
Bug#712907: grub-installer: No longer installs automatically on a normal machine with one hard drive

At the end of the very long discussion, you'll find this.

Just wanted to confirm that adding:

    d-i grub-installer/bootdev  string default

to the preseed.cfg file Petter mentioned in the very beginning of this
thread[1] makes the Jessie install succeed without prompts for me in a
kvm virt-install installation so it indeed looks fixed.

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#207 2015-08-14 15:30:24

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Re: RELEASED: BunsenLabs 8.1 (Hydrogen) Live ISO 32 & 64 bit (alpha2)

Hi, I'm still trying to figure out the proper way to set keybinds.

I did change the bind in the kb file in /.config/openbox but it doesn't work.  However, it will work if I click on the bind in the 'keyboard shortcuts' menu.  Sorry if my choice of wording is not exact. I'm at work

I want A-d for dmenu.

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#208 2015-08-14 16:26:06

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Re: RELEASED: BunsenLabs 8.1 (Hydrogen) Live ISO 32 & 64 bit (alpha2)

Wrong file. In that same folder (or via the right-click menu>Settings>Openbox>) edit rc.xml. Find the keybind A-F3 for dmenu-bind and change it to A-d, then right-click menu>Settings>openbox>Reconfigure.

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#209 2015-08-14 17:40:44

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hhh wrote:

Wrong file. In that same folder (or via the right-click menu>Settings>Openbox>) edit rc.xml. Find the keybind A-F3 for dmenu-bind and change it to A-d, then right-click menu>Settings>openbox>Reconfigure.

Thanks, hhh.


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#210 2015-08-15 09:45:01

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Re: RELEASED: BunsenLabs 8.1 (Hydrogen) Live ISO 32 & 64 bit (alpha2)

johnraff wrote:

A test

pidof compton >/dev/null || exit 0

in the "restart" section of bl-compositor perhaps? Please post if you have some other ideas.

yes, something like that.
at the same time i added a hack that dis/enables compositing also in ~/.config/openbox/autostart, so my ~/bin/bl-compositor now looks like this:

#!/bin/bash
# bl-compositor
# Openbox Pipe Menu for use with compton compositor
# Originally written for CrunchBang Linux <http://crunchbang.org/>
# by Philip Newborough <corenominal@corenominal.org>
# Adapted for Bunsen Labs Linux.

RESTART_ATTEMPTS=20

BL_COMMON_LIBDIR='/usr/lib/bunsen/bunsen-common'

if ! . "$BL_COMMON_LIBDIR/bl-include.cfg" 2> /dev/null; then
    echo $"Error: Failed to locate bl-include.cfg in $BL_COMMON_LIBDIR" >&2
    exit 1
fi

# ------------- Set xcompmgr command options -----------------------------------
EXECXCOMP='compton'
if glxinfo | egrep -iq 'direct rendering: yes'; then
    EXECXCOMP+=' --vsync opengl'
fi

# Edit xcompmgr settings
if [[ $1 = '--edit' ]]; then
    [[ ! -f $HOME/.config/compton.conf ]] &&
        cp '/etc/xdg/compton.conf' "$HOME/.config/compton.conf"

    if type bl-text-editor >/dev/null;then
        bl-text-editor "$HOME/.config/compton.conf"
    else
        x-terminal-emulator -T 'edit compton.conf' -e nano "$HOME/.config/compton.conf"
    fi
elif [[ $1 = '--toggle' || $1 = '--start' ]]; then # Toggle compositing with compton.
    # TODO why --toggle and --start act exactly the same?
    if ! pidof compton > /dev/null; then
        $EXECXCOMP &
        sed -i 's/^[ \t]*#.*bl-compositor[ \t]*--start[ \t]*\&[ \t]*/bl-compositor --start \& /g' ~/.config/openbox/autostart
    else
        killall compton
        sed -i 's/^[ \t]*bl-compositor[ \t]*--start[ \t]*\&[ \t]*/#~ bl-compositor --start \& /g' ~/.config/openbox/autostart
    fi
elif [[ $1 = '--restart' ]] && pidof compton ; then
    killall -q compton
    for (( i=0; i < RESTART_ATTEMPTS; i++ )); do
        pidof compton > /dev/null || # no process found! Safe to start again
            break

        (( i == RESTART_ATTEMPTS - 1 )) && # still didn't die? Probably hangs. Force it to die!
            killall -q -S KILL compton

        sleep 0.25
    done
    "$0" --start
elif [[ $1 = '--watch' ]]; then
    while inotifywait -e modify "$HOME/.config/compton.conf"; do
        "$0" --restart # TODO move this to function?
    done
else
    # Output Openbox menu
    menuStart
    if ! pidof compton > /dev/null; then
        menuItem 'Enable Compositing' "$0 --start"
    else
        menuItem 'Restart Compositing' "$0 --restart"
        menuItem 'Disable Compositing' "$0 --toggle"
        menuSeparator
    fi
    menuItem 'Edit Compositing Settings' "$0 --edit"
    menuEnd
fi
exit 0

the sed commands are not perfect yet; i used to have the logic that ignores leading whitespace and other syntax variations; i will dig into it. (*)


damo wrote:
ohnonot wrote:

....
The Conky and Tint2 choosers could need a 3rd button "Apply" - it's a little annoying having to re-open the chooser everytime I want to look at a different setup.

Sorry, I missed this comment first time round.

It's a zenity dialog issue - only 1 or 2 buttons are possible AFAICS.

Aren't "Apply" and "Close" buttons enough? The "Cancel" can always be the "X" in the window manager's titlebar...
unfortunately i know nothing about zenity or yad...

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#211 2015-08-15 20:43:50

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Re: RELEASED: BunsenLabs 8.1 (Hydrogen) Live ISO 32 & 64 bit (alpha2)

(*)
i looked it (bl-compositor) over. the sed commands to modify autostart according to compositor on/off are as flexible as i can think of making them. even trailing comments remain intact.
they are lines 37 and 40 of the script.
of course this is still questionable; the openbox/autostart is one of the most user-edited files, and one can not be 100% sure that this will work (as intended).

the added "elif ... && pidof compton" is on line 42 (was line 40).
that at least is a sensible addition imho.

i edited my previous post, it now contains the improved version.

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#212 2015-08-16 15:29:39

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Re: RELEASED: BunsenLabs 8.1 (Hydrogen) Live ISO 32 & 64 bit (alpha2)

damo wrote:
ohnonot wrote:

....
The Conky and Tint2 choosers could need a 3rd button "Apply" - it's a little annoying having to re-open the chooser everytime I want to look at a different setup.

Sorry, I missed this comment first time round.

It's a zenity dialog issue - only 1 or 2 buttons are possible AFAICS.
Aren't "Apply" and "Close" buttons enough? The "Cancel" can always be the "X" in the window manager's titlebar...
unfortunately i know nothing about zenity or yad...

yep, this bugged me, too.
IMO the best way would be to get an instant effect when you set a cross or click on a conky or tint2 theme and just autosave the last setting. just like in the OB-config- manager. then you would not even need apply or cancel button. to me this is the most modern and intuitive way to use such menus.

another thing.. keyboard configuration chooser in the live session like in cb live was supercool. two clicks and I had my german keyboard. I am struggling on the live system now to find all the right glyphs on my keyboard

I loved the small calendar when you click on the clock. plans to implement that? - an editable calendar would be even nicer, but the small one was good enough to find what weekday some date is.

else.. very very nice.


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#213 2015-08-16 16:43:49

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Re: RELEASED: BunsenLabs 8.1 (Hydrogen) Live ISO 32 & 64 bit (alpha2)

saneks wrote:

I loved the small calendar when you click on the clock. plans to implement that? - an editable calendar would be even nicer, but the small one was good enough to find what weekday some date is.

gsimplecal comes installed and attached to the clock-click  buttons.  If you want an editable calendar check out osmo.  (IMHO:  YUK!)

I use "zenity --calendar" and "dlume" myself.

Description: simple and easy to use addressbook (GTK+)
Dlume is a simple, gtk2-based addressbook. You can easily add, edit and delete records to/from an XML-format database. The Quick-search feature allows you find required entry in comfortable way. Export to CSV and HTML formats is also available. Interface design was borrowed and improved from Paddress

The three calendars:  2015_08_16_13_25_53_Scrot11.jpg


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#214 2015-08-16 19:37:49

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Re: RELEASED: BunsenLabs 8.1 (Hydrogen) Live ISO 32 & 64 bit (alpha2)

saneks wrote:

/.../
I loved the small calendar when you click on the clock. plans to implement that? - an editable calendar would be even nicer, but the small one was good enough to find what weekday some date is.
/.../

I'm presently running Debian 8 "Jessie" LXDE modified, which basically is Debian 8 LXDE "but a bit #!-ified", on my main computer.
Here's how I added the "click on tint2's clock, and a small month-view-calendar pops out" to it:

in a terminal

$ sudo apt-get update
$ sudo apt-get install gsimplecal

then add / make sure that ~/.config/tint2/tint2rc contains

# clock_lclick_command = text : Command to execute on left click.
clock_lclick_command = gsimplecal

# clock_rclick_command = text : Command to execute on right click.
clock_rclick_command = gsimplecal

(for more info, see Configuring your tint2rc manually)


This is the contents of my ~/.config/gsimplecal/config

# see 'man gsimplecal' for more details
show_week_numbers = 1
mainwindow_sticky = 1

If you, like me, also want the week-numbers shown in gsimplecal, make sure that at least the show_week_numbers = 1 part is in it.


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#215 2015-08-16 20:46:22

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Re: RELEASED: BunsenLabs 8.1 (Hydrogen) Live ISO 32 & 64 bit (alpha2)

gsimplecal will be in the next release.


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#216 2015-08-17 00:07:57

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Re: RELEASED: BunsenLabs 8.1 (Hydrogen) Live ISO 32 & 64 bit (alpha2)

^thanks.

just installed it on an old non-pae laptop with usb. works very nice and looks beautyful!

ran the welcome script.. printer support did not install

I see there is a lot in the menu that asks if to be installed and some more obscure stuff in the BL-welcome script.
combine the both? then clean the menu? (I can do this myself, but there are a lot of options in the menu.)

apt-get installed libreoffice gimp inkscape. the install options get deleted from the menu. nice.


else.. there is a dedicated help section in the menu. and some help-options in the submenus. may be confusing.

sorry if I repeated stuff. did not read the whole thread.


thanks A TON for creating this folks!

will make a second install on my main machine and test some more.

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#217 2015-08-18 02:52:41

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Re: RELEASED: BunsenLabs 8.1 (Hydrogen) Live ISO 32 & 64 bit (alpha2)

Hi saneks, many thanks for your feedback - this kind of stuff is a great help to us!

saneks wrote:

ran the welcome script.. printer support did not install

Can you perhaps post the error message you got? The script should install 'bunsen-meta-printer-support' which should bring in the packages cups, cups-pdf, system-config-printer, printer-driver-hpijs and hplip.

there is a dedicated help section in the menu. and some help-options in the submenus. may be confusing.

Let us think about that a bit. I was thinking having some help options here and there near where they're needed, and also having all the help items available in the help submenu would be the most useful way to go. At the moment not all the help items are duplicated in the Help section - I might fix that in the next version of bunsen-configs.

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#218 2015-08-18 03:18:36

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Can you perhaps post the error message you got? The script should install 'bunsen-meta-printer-support' which should bring in the packages cups, cups-pdf, system-config-printer, printer-driver-hpijs and hplip.

Part of this irks me.  Why are we assuming that everyone that has a printer has an HP printer?

Couldn't this be broken down into two parts:

  1. cups, cups-pdf, system-config-printer, and

  2. printer-driver-hpijs and hplip

After all there are others:

p   printer-driver-brlaser         - printer driver for (some) Brother laser printers          
p   printer-driver-c2050           - printer driver for Lexmark 2050 Color Jetprinter          
p   printer-driver-c2esp           - printer driver for Kodak ESP AiO color inkjet Series      
p   printer-driver-cjet            - printer driver for Canon LBP laser printers               
i   printer-driver-cups-pdf        - printer driver for PDF writing via CUPS                   
p   printer-driver-dymo            - printer driver for DYMO label printers                    
p   printer-driver-escpr           - printer driver for Epson Inkjet that use ESC/P-R          
p   printer-driver-foo2zjs         - printer driver for ZjStream-based printers                
p   printer-driver-foo2zjs-common  - printer driver for ZjStream-based printers - common files 
p   printer-driver-gutenprint      - printer drivers for CUPS                                  
p   printer-driver-hpcups          - HP Linux Printing and Imaging - CUPS Raster driver (hpcups
p   printer-driver-hpijs           - HP Linux Printing and Imaging - printer driver (hpijs)    
p   printer-driver-m2300w          - printer driver for Minolta magicolor 2300W/2400W color las
p   printer-driver-min12xxw        - printer driver for KonicaMinolta PagePro 1[234]xxW        
p   printer-driver-pnm2ppa         - printer driver for HP-GDI printers                        
p   printer-driver-postscript-hp   - HP Printers PostScript Descriptions                       
p   printer-driver-ptouch          - printer driver Brother P-touch label printers             
p   printer-driver-pxljr           - printer driver for HP Color LaserJet 35xx/36xx            
p   printer-driver-sag-gdi         - printer driver for Ricoh Aficio SP 1000s/SP 1100s         
p   printer-driver-splix           - Driver for Samsung and Xerox SPL2 and SPLc laser printers 
i   system-config-printer          - graphical interface to configure the printing system      
p   system-config-printer-udev     - Utilities to detect and configure printers automatically  

My Brother Laser Printer needed the driver from Brother.

Just a thought, not trying to be pushy.


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#219 2015-08-18 04:00:13

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Yes there are other packages, but that install line is deceptive. cups brings in a lot of stuff:

 Would you like to install printer support? [y/N] y

Reading package lists... Done
Suggested packages:
  cups-bsd foomatic-db-compressed-ppds foomatic-db smbclient xpp hplip-gui
  hplip-doc gutenprint-locales hpoj lm-sensors snmp-mibs-downloader
  appstream-index gutenprint-doc hpijs-ppds python-pexpect-doc
  libcurl4-gnutls-dev python-pycurl-dbg python-pycurl-doc python-renderpm-dbg
  python-egenix-mxtexttools python-reportlab-doc unpaper openssl-blacklist
  gnome-packagekit-session
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  bunsen-meta-printer-support colord colord-data cups cups-browsed cups-client
  cups-common cups-core-drivers cups-daemon cups-filters
  cups-filters-core-drivers cups-pdf cups-pk-helper cups-ppdc
  cups-server-common gir1.2-gnomekeyring-1.0 gir1.2-notify-0.7
  gir1.2-packagekitglib-1.0 hplip hplip-data libart-2.0-2 libcolorhug2
  libcupscgi1 libcupsmime1 libcupsppdc1 libelfg0 libfile-copy-recursive-perl
  libfontembed1 libglib2.0-bin libgusb2 libgutenprint2 libhpmud0 libieee1284-3
  libpackagekit-glib2-18 libqpdf13 libsane libsane-common libsane-extras
  libsane-extras-common libsane-hpaio libsensors4 libsnmp-base libsnmp30
  packagekit packagekit-tools poppler-utils printer-driver-cups-pdf
  printer-driver-gutenprint printer-driver-hpcups printer-driver-hpijs
  printer-driver-postscript-hp python-cups python-cupshelpers python-imaging
  python-libxml2 python-pexpect python-pycurl python-renderpm python-reportlab
  python-reportlab-accel python-smbc qpdf sane-utils ssl-cert
  system-config-printer system-config-printer-udev update-inetd

Those two HP packages are just a drop in the bucket. I don't know when/if the other printer-driver* packages are needed - printing is very complicated and there's something called the foomatic data base which contains a huge number of drivers for all kinds of printers. (I'm not sure why the bl meta-package doesn't pull it in - I'm sure it came in on Waldorf.)

HP have been more Linux-friendly than some other manufacturers, and if there's no Brother, Canon or Epson equivalent of printer-driver-hpijs and hplip, maybe it's because they didn't make one for us?


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#220 2015-09-01 01:43:34

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I recently downloaded and installed the 64-bit version in VB and love the crunchy look and feel. Nice job devs!  smile


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#221 2015-09-01 01:54:43

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g33zr - You're alive!

Soooo good to see you! - enjoy your new BunsenLabs!   cool


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#222 2015-09-01 01:56:14

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johnraff wrote:

HP have been more Linux-friendly than some other manufacturers, and if there's no Brother, Canon or Epson equivalent of printer-driver-hpijs and hplip, maybe it's because they didn't make one for us?

You are right of course ... sad


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#223 2015-09-01 02:02:50

g33zr
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Re: RELEASED: BunsenLabs 8.1 (Hydrogen) Live ISO 32 & 64 bit (alpha2)

@ Sector11: Yup, still alive and kicking, but sticking more to Arch-based Manjaro while running BunsenLabs in VB.  ]:D

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#224 2015-09-09 19:35:40

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Re: RELEASED: BunsenLabs 8.1 (Hydrogen) Live ISO 32 & 64 bit (alpha2)

*** TOPIC CLOSED, please download the latest ISOs instead! ***


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