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#26 2015-05-05 17:13:46

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

When aged 8 we moved to the USA for a couple of years (from the UK). For my age I was pretty good at spelling, always getting 100% in tests. Then, to my horror, I started to get big red crosses against perfectly well spelt words, plough, colour, centre, neighbour, and so on. Two years later I was back in the UK, and had to unlearn it all.

[footnote] my effort at education went downhill after this  ]:D

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#27 2015-05-05 18:09:17

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

gutterslob wrote:

Thankfully, words like circle, stupid, inbred and redneck are still spelled the same both sides of the Atlantic, so as long as I have a universal way to bash nascar, it's all good.

lol  lol  lol You kill me!  lol  lol  lol


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#28 2015-05-05 18:13:24

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

Hey, there are other ways to spell in English...

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#29 2015-05-05 18:30:40

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

I kan spel corektly but pepole dont understand  cool

I was taught to spell the Canadian way - centre, colour and grey, as per our British heritage.  I think what happened is Windows came along and "Windows" in Canada defaulted to using US English and people didn't change it, I always did.  That was years ago, not sure if that is true today though.

Any Canuck Windows users here?


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#30 2015-05-05 23:31:55

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

Joe90 wrote:

When aged 8 we moved to the USA for a couple of years (from the UK). For my age I was pretty good at spelling, always getting 100% in tests. Then, to my horror, I started to get big red crosses against perfectly well spelt words, plough, colour, centre, neighbour, and so on.

English language in a class called "English". I would have told those American teachers there are two ways to spell such words. The English way and the wrong way. If they refused to change those marks I would have taken the issue to the school principal and insisted on it.

Not just saying that. I did this kind of thing in school on multiple occasions. Certain teachers thought I was "arrogant" but in the end had to admit I was right.  I pointed out it was they who were arrogant when they were so reluctant to admit a student was right that they were forcing that student to go over their heads to correct the situation.

Edit:  @Sector11 I do not use Windows but I do set any spell checking on my Linux boxes to British English. Funny thing is though I have to set my keyboard map to American English. The last couple of times I tried Canadian English keyboard mapping it acted strange. Probably something to do with those weird folks over in Quebec. You know, the ones that speak "Frenglish". I'm pretty certain that the French would laugh themselves silly over how French they think they are in Quebec.  ]:D

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#31 2015-05-06 09:37:57

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

Inodoro Pereyra wrote:

Hey, there are other ways to spell in English...

At least we know whose side the Chinese are on.... I think.

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#32 2015-05-06 10:09:12

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

Hot Frog earthshaking America

Just reading that gave me IBS. yikes

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#33 2015-05-30 18:19:26

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

The tire/tyre, truck/lorry, z/s, subway/underground divide is nothing really.

Those of us trying to learn English as a second/third/whatever language make other observations. Like Victor Borge could make his audience laugh raising his eyebrows after uttering "Some people can't stand sitting down." and then "Don't laugh, it's your language, I only try to use it."

What are the rules governing the pronunciation of Leicester or dandelion?

Makes life more fun for sure. Talking of which I must recommend Douglas Hofstadter's first column in Scientific American when he replaced Martin Gardner and his Mathematical Games. Hofstadter's column was called Methamagical Themas and in the inaugural one he played around with self-referential sentences such as "Does this sentence remind you of Agatha Christie?"

Btw, the f-word is an import into English from the Nordic languages and that happened 800+ years ago.

/Martin (I sail a catamaran (Tamil for joint logs). To get out to its mooring I use a dinghy (Hindi for small boat).)

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#34 2015-05-30 18:21:03

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

MartinRF wrote:

the pronunciation of Leicester

"Lester" wink

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#35 2015-05-31 02:36:03

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

Relevant:  "Shibboleth".

One of my favorites is Worcestershire.

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#36 2015-05-31 04:06:09

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

MartinRF wrote:

What are the rules governing the pronunciation of Leicester or dandelion?

No rules. English is like that.


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#37 2015-05-31 07:24:54

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
MartinRF wrote:

the pronunciation of Leicester

"Lester" wink

Darn. I've always pronounced it '"lye-chester". Don't I feel like a silly American.


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#38 2015-05-31 07:28:14

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

jdonaghy wrote:
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
MartinRF wrote:

the pronunciation of Leicester

"Lester" wink

Darn. I've always pronounced it '"lye-chester". Don't I feel like a silly American.

Don't sweat it - not far from Lyechester is the Vale of Belvoir (pronounced "Beaver"!)


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#39 2015-05-31 08:09:37

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

British mystery series are often shown in finnish TV. Name of detective chief inspector Adam Dalgliesh is a shibboleth for those who have watched that series long enough. (It sounds like DLSH for me).

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#40 2015-05-31 08:48:08

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

The best is Menzies, a Scottish name. It is pronounced Mingis, except in the name of John Menzies, a chain of newsagents (if they still exist).

Maybe Leicester went some thing like leh/s'ster for a brief while, which would be an unstable pronunciation in English.

There's also Costessey in Norwich pronounced Cozzie.

Ireland's place names were anglicised quite recently which is why they often seem more sane and more recognisably English.

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#41 2015-05-31 10:00:15

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

My favourite is Bicester -- pronounced "Bister" big_smile

Even I got that wrong until I was corrected and I've lived in England all my life...

@pvsage -- "Wuster-sher" wink

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#42 2015-05-31 10:21:03

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

I don't see anyone who has mentioned Norwich. So funny hearing how people pronounce it.
Then we have Jaguar, Durham and too many other to be bothered to list.

Anyway, isn't the official English language dictionary 'The Oxford dictionary' - I rest my case  big_smile


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#43 2015-05-31 11:15:36

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

Of course there are the old Chelsea standards of Cadogan ("cah-DUG-an") and Beauchamp ("BEE-cham") to test if you're posh enough to live there...
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http://hidden-london.com/miscellany/pronunciation/

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#44 2015-05-31 11:37:11

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

Do Brits usually welcome American tourists? I know that's probably impossible to answer, but I definitely plan to get there, one day. And to be laughed at. And given strange looks. But whatever.

I guess I draw that same reaction, here, come to think of it. tongue

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#45 2015-05-31 11:39:23

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

jdonaghy wrote:

Do Brits usually welcome American tourists?

Goodness yes, the economy of London (and England generally) benefits hugely from you friendly, well-tipping people big_smile

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#46 2015-05-31 12:34:21

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

Beaulieu is pronounced (when referring to the English place name) as byooly.
Happisburgh is pronounced haze-borough.
Raymond Luxury Yacht is pronounced Throat wobbler mangrove

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#47 2015-05-31 12:55:33

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

intoCB wrote:

Raymond Luxury Yacht is pronounced Throat wobbler mangrove

You're a very silly man, and I'm not going to interview you.  big_smile


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#48 2015-05-31 14:46:33

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
jdonaghy wrote:

Do Brits usually welcome American tourists?

Goodness yes, the economy of London (and England generally) benefits hugely from you friendly, well-tipping people big_smile

yes yes ... Benjamin Franklin comes to mind.  big_smile


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#49 2015-05-31 14:51:38

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

Since spelling is one of my great pitfalls does

to + too = two or tutu

For me tutu = 44   lol


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#50 2015-05-31 15:07:46

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Re: different ways to spell words in english

Sector11 wrote:

Since spelling is one of my great pitfalls does

to + too = two or tutu

For me tutu = 44   lol

OneOne was a racing horse
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