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#1 2015-02-18 15:15:42

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Name (query) [Solved] BunsenLabs

The name of this part of the forum is Bunsen Laboratory but the agreed name was BunsenLabs. Is there a reason for not using BunsenLabs? I liked it because it sounds a bit like Bell Labs. In any case, that was the agreed name. Not to mention that laboratory has two different pronunciations smile

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#2 2015-02-18 15:44:04

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Re: Name (query) [Solved] BunsenLabs

I think it works OK for me - a "laboratory" is where the evil geniuses of BunsenLabs do their research and experiments big_smile


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#3 2015-02-18 15:55:41

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Re: Name (query) [Solved] BunsenLabs

I have no preference for Laboratory or Labs. My hope is that either should refer to the development of a LIVE ISO, but that said ISO would just be called "Bunsen" or "Bunsen Beaker" or "Bunsen Janice" when released.


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#4 2015-02-20 09:17:35

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Re: Name (query) [Solved] BunsenLabs

Maybe late to the party and also who am I - but I really don't like the current name; I totally understand the idea behind it all, link with the muppets and stuff regarding Crunchbang's Waldorf & Statler - but - you see what I did there; it's Crunchbang primarily and Waldorf & Statler are just working titles...  Totally no idea how "huge" you guys are seeing this project but if you're going for Bunsen Laboratory as the distro's name, with Beaker the pun has already ended, and you can't use Bunsen as a working title since Bunsen Laboratory Bunsen looks totally wrong.  Also there's just no ZING to it all...

A: "Hey have you seen that latest distro yet?"
B: "What distro?"
A: "The community based distro which spawned after the sad news of Crunchbang"
B: "Yah read about that somewhere, what was it called again... Something Bunsen"
A: "Bunsen Laboratory"
B: neutral
A: neutral

Also; as stated before - who am I - these is just my humble opinion, and I don't want to offend anyone by any means here... just that, there's no ZING if you know what I mean, Crunchbang - was ... Bang! in your face - instant coolness.  cool


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#5 2015-02-20 09:35:49

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Re: Name (query) [Solved] BunsenLabs

^
BunsenLabs instead of Bunsen Laboratory.

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#6 2015-02-20 15:11:26

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Re: Name (query) [Solved] BunsenLabs

We are not cool, we are Devo.


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#7 2015-02-20 19:31:01

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Re: Name (query) [Solved] BunsenLabs

This is a highly subjective topic. Personally, I really like BunsenLabs and if I had no idea what it was about, I'd definitely be intrigued enough to take a look.


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#8 2015-02-20 20:04:25

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Re: Name (query) [Solved] BunsenLabs

^Alright, who hijacked this guy's account? Fess up.

-edit- missed the apostrophe

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#9 2015-02-20 22:44:06

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Re: Name (query) [Solved] BunsenLabs

hhh wrote:

^Alright, who hijacked this guy's account? Fess up.

Tis I, back from the dead and here to haunt you. Muhahaha.


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#10 2015-02-20 23:00:11

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Re: Name (query) [Solved] BunsenLabs

^Papa sayin' "I'm finally smurfing free of those Smurfs!" lol

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#11 2015-02-21 00:44:33

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Re: Name (query) [Solved] BunsenLabs

And Sparkle Dancer Glitter Ponies  lol  lol

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#12 2015-02-21 05:34:44

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Re: Name (query) [Solved] BunsenLabs

^ I did explain the source of that name. roll 
Star Trek Phase II: "Blood and Fire".
(Don't worry, it's legal & free to watch and/or download.  It is a little gay though, seeing as the original TNG script was meant as commentary on "the AIDS crisis".)

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#13 2015-02-21 07:00:40

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Re: Name (query) [Solved] BunsenLabs

Did the ponies make daddy go away?  8.(

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#14 2015-02-24 11:50:22

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Re: Name (query) [Solved] BunsenLabs

Just some thinking about the name..

At first I didn't like the name "Bunsenlabs" at all (mainly cause in my opinion there was already better name suggested), but after a while I really have learn to like this new name. smile

Even though the Clear Brake Linux would be almost (if not exactly) as good name suggestion...

Why I like(d) the name Clear Brake Linux a lot?

1) It wasn't originally mentioned as a name suggestion, but someone took it off the context/sentence and turned it one..

2) Cause it was kind of accidental suggestion, it didn't try to be clever name, it simply was/is.

3) For now it would stand for clear brake from crunchbang, but later it would stand as clear/clean distribution (=fast, no bells and whistles etc. and thus simply one also), but also break would be "warning" as bang previously was.

4) It would pass the "hat test", especially is old logo #! could be used (after all, someone else might use it later on if not this community and that wouldn't be cool at all)


Anyway, I'm looking forward to have BunsenLabs Linux in my hands. smile And what comes to topic, I think it's good to name this part of forum as it is now.

Just my 2snt smile

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#15 2015-02-24 12:31:05

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Re: Name (query) [Solved] BunsenLabs

@huuhaa:  Sounds like you've found the name for your personal build, should you choose to make one. wink

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#16 2015-02-24 12:49:10

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Re: Name (query) [Solved] BunsenLabs

pvsage wrote:

@huuhaa:  Sounds like you've found the name for your personal build, should you choose to make one. wink

big_smile Well that sure is nice name, but like said, I've learn to like BunsenLabs as much as Clear Brake + I think with BunsenLabs I actually can use my computer, instead of just focusing to that break part.  big_smile Anyway, keep up good work, will follow the progress at the background. smile

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#17 2015-02-24 14:25:57

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Re: Name (query) [Solved] BunsenLabs

arcum wrote:

Maybe late to the party and also who am I - but I really don't like the current name; I totally understand the idea behind it all, link with the muppets and stuff regarding Crunchbang's Waldorf & Statler - but - you see what I did there; it's Crunchbang primarily and Waldorf & Statler are just working titles...  Totally no idea how "huge" you guys are seeing this project but if you're going for Bunsen Laboratory as the distro's name, with Beaker the pun has already ended, and you can't use Bunsen as a working title since Bunsen Laboratory Bunsen looks totally wrong.  Also there's just no ZING to it all...

I think there's something to this. If the name of the distro is BunsenLabs (which I quite like), and borrowing from the #! tracking of Debian stable, doesn't there need to be version names for every new stable release at least? Is the current release BunsenLabs - Wally? What happens when Jessie goes stable? BunsenLabs - ...? Are we sticking to the muppets naming convention? There aren't really any popular muppets who's names begin with "J" other than Janice, and appropriating Janice would just be... well, inappropriate. Do we even want to stick with muppets? I think calling the distro "BunsenLabs" is a nice homage to #! without being overly obvious. Perhaps we need a clean break from the naming convention...

Or am I seeing the project incorrectly, and is BunsenLabs supposed to apply to any underlying Debian release? Thus no need to ever differentiate the name. If so, I don't think this is a great idea. Surely there will be things that will need to be changed as Debian stable changes and there should be a way of differentiating past, present and future versions of the BunsenLabs build.

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#18 2015-02-24 14:38:14

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Re: Name (query) [Solved] BunsenLabs

The "laboratory" connection opens up a world of options for naming conventions - eg names of elements for releases etc. (Although there is no element beginning with "J" sad )


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#19 2015-02-24 14:56:25

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Re: Name (query) [Solved] BunsenLabs

^ There also isn't really a piece of lab equipment begining with "J". There is a husband and wife team of Nobel laureates in chemistry with the last name Joliot-Curie - which is mostly starting with a "J".

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#20 2015-02-24 16:35:46

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Re: Name (query) [Solved] BunsenLabs

@ woodape - sure there is ... Lab Jars see below.

damo wrote:

The "laboratory" connection opens up a world of options for naming conventions - eg names of elements for releases etc. (Although there is no element beginning with "J" sad )

But there are "Lab Jars" if you want to go with lab Equipment.

Wonder what would have happened if Toy Story had a character with a name that Muppets doesn't have a match for?

Personally I'd just follow the Debian naming structure since Bunsen is based on Debian. - no confusion.

And / Or and IF - always an IF . . .
NOTE:

Edited to match pvsage's  post here, and may changed in the future.
Or go for broke ... Debian 8 - use this list: Chemical elements listed by atomic number and use the chemical element for the Atomic Number that matches Debian's release number: 8 to match BunsenLabs release number.

Who says we have to use a name that starts with the same letter as Debian, use the version number.  BunsenLabs Hydrogen sounds  cool

If this is accepted, and there is no real reason why it should be, here's a text list for ease of use:
BubsenLabs_VersionNames.txt (changed format)
EDIT: BunsenLabs to start at v1 - makes sense, so:

BunsenLabs "Stable" Periodic Version Release Element
By Atomic  number

###  Element - Symbol
1    Hydrogen - H  <<-- We are here
2    Helium - He
3    Lithium - Li
4    Beryllium - Be
5    Boron - B
6    Carbon - C
7    Nitrogen - N
8    Oxygen - O
9    Fluorine - F
10   Neon - Ne
11   Sodium - Na
12   Magnesium - Mg
13   Aluminium - Al
14   Silicon - Si
15   Phosphorus - P
16   Sulphur - S
17   Chlorine - Cl
18   Argon - Ar
19   Potassium - K
20   Calcium - Ca
21   Scandium - Sc
22   Titanium - Ti
23   Vanadium - V
24   Chromium - Cr
25   Manganese - Mn
26   Iron - Fe
27   Cobalt - Co
28   Nickel - Ni
29   Copper - Cu
30   Zinc - Zn
31   Gallium - Ga
32   Germanium - Ge
33   Arsenic - As
34   Selenium - Se
35   Bromine - Br
36   Krypton - Kr
37   Rubidium - Rb
38   Strontium - Sr
39   Yttrium - Y
40   Zirconium - Zr
41   Niobium - Nb
42   Molybdenum - Mo
43   Technetium - Tc
44   Ruthenium - Ru
45   Rhodium - Rh
46   Palladium - Pd
47   Silver - Ag
48   Cadmium - Cd
49   Indium - In
50   Tin - Sn
51   Antimony - Sb
52   Tellurium - Te
53   Iodine - I
54   Xenon - Xe
55   Cesium - Cs
56   Barium - Ba
57   Lanthanum - La
58   Cerium - Ce
59   Praseodymium - Pr
60   Neodymium - Nd
61   Promethium - Pm
62   Samarium - Sm
63   Europium - Eu
64   Gadolinium - Gd
65   Terbium - Tb
66   Dysprosium - Dy
67   Holmium - Ho
68   Erbium - Er
69   Thulium - Tm
70   Ytterbium - Yb
71   Lutetium - Lu
72   Hafnium - Hf
73   Tantalum - Ta
74   Tungsten - W
75   Rhenium - Re
76   Osmium - Os
77   Iridium - Ir
78   Platinum - Pt
79   Gold - Au
80   Mercury - Hg
81   Thallium - Tl
82   Lead - Pb
83   Bismuth - Bi
84   Polonium - Po
85   Astatine - At
86   Radon - Rn
87   Francium - Fr
88   Radium - Ra
89   Actinium - Ac
90   Thorium - Th
91   Protactinium - Pa
92   Uranium - U
93   Neptunium - Np
94   Plutonium - Pu
95   Americium - Am
96   Curium - Cm
97   Berkelium - Bk
98   Californium - Cf
99   Einsteinium - Es
100  Fermium - Fm
101  Mendelevium - Md
102  Nobelium - No
103  Lawrencium - Lr
104  Rutherfordium - Rf
105  Dubnium - Db
106  Seaborgium - Sg
107  Bohrium - Bh
108  Hassium - Hs
109  Meitnerium - Mt
110  Darmstadtium - Ds
111  Roentgenium - Rg
112  Ununbium - Uub
113  Ununtrium - Uut
114  Ununquadium - Uuq
115  Ununpentium - Uup
116  Ununhexium - Uuh
117  Ununseptium - Uus
118  Ununoctium - Uuo

Read  more:  http://www.lenntech.com/periodic/number/atomic-number.htm#ixzz3SkzCziOv

I really doubt I'll be around to see a dozen more of those, probably closer to 4 or 6, but some of you might.  wink

He also said:

pvsage wrote:

Any build based on Debian Unstable/Sid will forever be known as BunsenLabs: Unobtanium.

Which is pretty  cool in my books.

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#21 2015-02-24 16:45:06

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Re: Name (query) [Solved] BunsenLabs

^ I was thinking along similar lines.

"BunsenLabs Neon" has a great ring to it! cool

EDIT: shock horror! You are using a US source aren't you? That's why aluminium is spelled wrong!

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#22 2015-02-24 17:02:59

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Re: Name (query) [Solved] BunsenLabs

damo damo damo ... when was the last time you had your glasses checked?   cool  and lots of:  O:)

Edit: Neon is cool - not as long a wait for mine though:
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#23 2015-02-24 17:49:55

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Re: Name (query) [Solved] BunsenLabs

Sector11 wrote:

damo damo damo ... when was the last time you had your glasses checked?   cool  and lots of:  O:)

Edit: Neon is cool - not as long a wait for mine though:
Krypton       Kr   36


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#24 2015-02-24 18:25:00

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Re: Name (query) [Solved] BunsenLabs

Funnily enough, out of 4 CrunchBang releases, only the last two carried the names of Muppets. The first two releases were unnamed, I think.

How about Wallace and Gromit? BunsenLabs Wallace. BunsenLabs Gromit. They were a double act, like Statler and Waldorf, and they did a lot of tinkering too.

Alternatively, we could use characters from The A-Team e.g. BunsenLabs The Face, BunsenLabs Murdoch, Burden Labs Hannibal. I could go on.

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#25 2015-02-24 18:36:08

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Re: Name (query) [Solved] BunsenLabs

intoCB wrote:

...
How about Wallace and Gromit? Bunsen Labs Wallace. Bunsen Labs Gromit. They were a double act, like Statler and Waldorf, and they did a lot of tinkering too.
....

...and they battled an Evil Penguin ]:D


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