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#26 2015-02-12 15:27:56

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Re: Wally - a Waldorf replica on a Jessie netinstall

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#27 2015-02-12 16:34:31

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Re: Wally - a Waldorf replica on a Jessie netinstall

My next project is to try this.  My Waldorf > Sid seems to work but elements of systemd means I can't mount my EXT HDD nor other internal partitions.  GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!  I see things like "fschk-systemd" on boot and while I see the partitions with some really long UID type code they are owned my ROOT and trying to mount them as root fails.

BUT the system is there and running rough ... at times very 'slow'

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#28 2015-02-12 22:39:45

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Re: Wally - a Waldorf replica on a Jessie netinstall

As far as I understood, there are at least two distinctive approaches out there:

1. To preserve Waldorf as it is, but on a Jessie base (and not on the upgraded, Wheezy-made Jessie, but the real one), adapted to a purely Debian system, esthetically resembling Crunchbang and keeping its values with minimal change. This is called Wally.
2. To design a totally new thing that is meant to be the successor of Waldorf, again on purely Debian (Jessie or Sid or both, maybe even siduction and whatnot) base, keeping some of the Crunchbang goodies, possibly mixing with other goodies and eventually creating a new distro that is "like a fork of Crunchbang" - when it actually isn't, but it appears to be. This approach is currently called Bunsen or BunsenLabs.

Now, it would be perfect to somehow re-organize the sub-sections of the forums. I know it's not my duty and I don't want to sound like giving orders to the moderators. But it would certainly be good to divide these approaches clearly. I would rename the "devel:Janice" section to "Development ideas" in which there could be a new sticky thread: "Waldorf on Jessie", dealing with Wally and how to achieve its goals. On the other hand the BunsenLabs threads (it will eventually have many threads, like an own mini-forum) should be at the end of the main Forums page, separated from Crunchbang development. That Bunsen Forum could serve as an area for working together on this new distro, at least until Bunsen gets its own place on the Internet, if it ever happens. Of course, some sticky readme should explain the whole situation to newcomers, urging them to put requests and ideas not there, where the actual development is done, but to the above mentioned "ideas" section.

I would like to see these two approaches not being mixed up, even though users may request features that can be implemented in both.

No offense, these are just my thoughts that seem to me fairly logical at the moment. Maybe they aren't.

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#29 2015-02-12 23:03:57

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Re: Wally - a Waldorf replica on a Jessie netinstall

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#30 2015-02-13 01:08:10

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Re: Wally - a Waldorf replica on a Jessie netinstall

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#31 2015-02-13 04:28:19

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Re: Wally - a Waldorf replica on a Jessie netinstall

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#32 2015-02-13 04:51:15

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Re: Wally - a Waldorf replica on a Jessie netinstall

I don't have much in the way of technical ability in order to help with the process, but I will try to run through your instructions, John, and report back.

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#33 2015-02-13 06:32:08

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Re: Wally - a Waldorf replica on a Jessie netinstall

Thank you rwsChris it is appreciated!

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#34 2015-02-13 06:46:08

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Re: Wally - a Waldorf replica on a Jessie netinstall

@johnraff:  I didn't notice it in your guide, but did you install Abiword in Wally?  That's one of the things that have been going all kinds of wonky on my Jessie install; the toolbars in particular are completely unusable.  Doesn't matter which gtk theme either, or whether or not the theme includes gtk3 stylesheets.

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#35 2015-02-13 07:06:17

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Re: Wally - a Waldorf replica on a Jessie netinstall

wget -nd -P ~/downloads/debs http://packages.crunchbang.org/waldorf/pool/main/{cb-fortune_0.01_all.deb,cb-meta-lamp_0.06_all.deb,cb-meta-libreoffice_0.06_all.deb,cb-meta-packaging_0.06_all.deb,cb-meta-printer-support_0.06_all.deb,cb-meta-ssh_0.06_all.deb,cb-meta-vcs_0.06_all.deb,cb-wmhacks_0.06_all.deb}
wget -P ~/downloads/debs https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10808732/cb-tweaked-debs.tar.gz
cd ~/downloads/debs/
tar -xf cb-tweaked-debs.tar.gz
rm cb-tweaked-debs.tar.gz
sudo cp ~/downloads/debs/*.deb /var/local/debs
cd /var/local/debs
dpkg-scanpackages . 2>>~/dpkg-scanpackages.log | gzip -c | sudo tee Packages.gz >/dev/null
cd
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install cb-fortune cb-wmhacks cb-welcome

Last edited by johnraff (2015-02-21 06:25:43)

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#36 2015-02-13 07:11:05

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Re: Wally - a Waldorf replica on a Jessie netinstall

sudo apt-get install abiword

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#37 2015-02-13 07:37:16

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Re: Wally - a Waldorf replica on a Jessie netinstall

CHEAT SHEET

This is not a script! There's no error checking at all.
If you try to run all these commands in one go you'll very likely hit a problem half way through and get into a nasty mess.
Run them one at a time, and make sure things are OK before moving on to the next.

OK, starting from a bare Debian Jessie netinstall:
( Don't forget to leave the root password empty, so you get put in the sudo group. )

PART 1

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
sudo apt-get install policykit-1

>optionally:
  sudo apt-get install apt-listbugs

sudo apt-get install xorg
sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends openbox obconf thunar
sudo apt-get install iceweasel (or your browser of choice)

startx

>Now you can open a browser, navigate to this page on the #! forums (try googling "crunchbang wally cheatsheet") and copy/paste commands into a terminal.

Hint: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=418637#p418637

>Add contrib non-free to sources.list
sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list{,-orig}
sed -r 's/(^deb [^ ]*)( jessie | jessie-updates | jessie\/updates | jessie-backports ).*$/\1\2 main contrib non-free/g' /etc/apt/sources.list-orig | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list >/dev/null
>alternatively:
sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
>and add contrib non-free to each deb line

sudo apt-get update

>Network
sudo apt-get install wireless-tools firmware-linux firmware-iwlwifi firmware-ralink firmware-ipw2x00 firmware-realtek intel-microcode amd64-microcode 
sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends network-manager-{gnome,openvpn-gnome,pptp-gnome,vpnc-gnome}

>System tools
sudo apt-get install e2fsprogs xfsprogs reiserfsprogs reiser4progs jfsutils ntfs-3g fuse gvfs gvfs-fuse fusesmb

>Core desktop:
sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lightdm obmenu desktop-base tint2 clipit suckless-tools gmrun nitrogen hsetroot conky-all compton terminator

>Utilities
sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends geany viewnior synaptic lxappearance xfce4-notifyd libnotify-bin gksu zenity arandr xinput xsel xdotool htop fbxkb scrot thunar-volman python-xdg flashplugin-nonfree gnome-keyring libpam-gnome-keyring xfce4-screenshooter xscreensaver ntp curl gparted file-roller gdebi

>Graphics
sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends fonts-dejavu fonts-droid fonts-freefont-ttf fonts-liberation ttf-mscorefonts-installer dmz-cursor-theme gtk2-engines-murrine gtk2-engines-pixbuf gtk2-engines

sudo update-alternatives --set libgksu-gconf-defaults /usr/share/libgksu/debian/gconf-defaults.libgksu-sudo
sudo update-gconf-defaults

PART 2

sudo apt-get install dpkg-dev
sudo mkdir -p /var/local/debs

>Now add this at the end of /etc/apt/sources.list:
-----------------------------
# local debs
deb file:///var/local/debs ./
-----------------------------
>or run:
cat <<<'# local debs
deb file:///var/local/debs ./
' | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/local_repo.list >/dev/null

mkdir -p ~/downloads/debs 
wget -nd -P ~/downloads/debs http://packages.crunchbang.org/waldorf/pool/main/{cb-lock_0.01_all.deb,cb-tint2_0.01_all.deb,crunchbang-wallpapers_1.0-1_all.deb,faenza-crunchbang-icon-theme_1.2-crunchang1_all.deb}
wget -P ~/downloads/debs https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10808732/tinkerbox-debs.tar.gz
cd ~/downloads/debs/
tar -xf tinkerbox-debs.tar.gz
rm tinkerbox-debs.tar.gz
sudo cp ~/downloads/debs/*.deb /var/local/debs
cd /var/local/debs
dpkg-scanpackages . 2>>~/dpkg-scanpackages.log | gzip -c | sudo tee Packages.gz >/dev/null
cd
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install cb-lock cb-tint2 crunchbang-wallpapers faenza-crunchbang-icon-theme tb-configs tb-exit tb-pipemenus tb-user-setup

PART 3

>Compression utilities
sudo apt-get install unrar unace unalz unzip lzop rzip zip xz-utils arj bzip2

cd ~/downloads
wget https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/archive/master.zip
unzip -q master.zip
mv Greybird-master Greybird-git
wget http://box-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/154075-Greybird.tar.gz
tar --backup -xf 154075-Greybird.tar.gz
mv Greybird Greybird-ob
sudo cp -r Greybird-{git,ob} /usr/share/themes
cd /etc/lightdm
sudo mv lightdm.conf lightdm.conf-orig
sed 's|^# *session-setup-script= *$|session-setup-script=/usr/share/tinkerbox/tb-user-setup|' lightdm.conf-orig | sudo tee lightdm.conf >/dev/null
cd

PART 4

>Sound
sudo apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils vlc vlc-plugin-notify lame pulseaudio pulseaudio-module-x11 xfce4-mixer xfce4-volumed pavucontrol xfburn volumeicon-alsa

>GTK utilities
sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends gimp gimp-plugin-registry evince gnumeric galculator gigolo catfish gsimplecal gtrayicon xchat transmission-gtk xfce4-power-manager xfce4-power-manager-plugins thunar-archive-plugin thunar-media-tags-plugin geany-plugins ghostscript 

>System tools
sudo apt-get install bash-completion lintian libnss-mdns gvfs-bin gvfs-backends python-keybinder xdg-utils rsync anacron usbutils wmctrl menu bc screen cowsay figlet whois rpl cpufrequtils debconf-utils apt-xapian-index build-essential user-setup avahi-utils avahi-daemon ftp openssh-client sshfs

PART 5

wget -nd -P ~/downloads/debs http://packages.crunchbang.org/waldorf/pool/main/{cb-fortune_0.01_all.deb,cb-meta-lamp_0.06_all.deb,cb-meta-libreoffice_0.06_all.deb,cb-meta-packaging_0.06_all.deb,cb-meta-printer-support_0.06_all.deb,cb-meta-ssh_0.06_all.deb,cb-meta-vcs_0.06_all.deb,cb-wmhacks_0.06_all.deb}
wget -P ~/downloads/debs https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10808732/cb-tweaked-debs.tar.gz
cd ~/downloads/debs/
tar -xf cb-tweaked-debs.tar.gz
rm cb-tweaked-debs.tar.gz
sudo cp ~/downloads/debs/*.deb /var/local/debs
cd /var/local/debs
dpkg-scanpackages . 2>>~/dpkg-scanpackages.log | gzip -c | sudo tee Packages.gz >/dev/null
cd
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install cb-fortune cb-wmhacks cb-welcome

sudo systemctl reboot
>you shouldn't need sudo to run systemctl after this reboot

FINISHED

>To install the Bunsen1 theme by hhh (nice and grey),
>run this code:
cd downloads/
wget https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/157ttib7rh5t3ll/Bunsen.tar.gz
tar -xf Bunsen.tar.gz
sudo cp -r Bunsen/Bunsen1 /usr/share/themes
sudo cp Bunsen/*.jpg /usr/share/backgrounds
cd
>Now you can choose Bunsen1 in obconf and lxappearance

Last edited by johnraff (2015-03-04 02:49:49)

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#38 2015-02-13 07:52:48

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Re: Wally - a Waldorf replica on a Jessie netinstall

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#39 2015-02-13 07:59:33

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Re: Wally - a Waldorf replica on a Jessie netinstall

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#40 2015-02-13 08:28:12

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Re: Wally - a Waldorf replica on a Jessie netinstall

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#41 2015-02-13 16:03:06

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Re: Wally - a Waldorf replica on a Jessie netinstall

A minimalist libreoffice-writer install...

sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends libreoffice-base-core libreoffice-common \
libreoffice-core libreoffice-gtk libreoffice-style-galaxy libreoffice-writer

Not that bad usage of disk space for one of the more important programs on your computer.

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#42 2015-02-13 16:24:54

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Re: Wally - a Waldorf replica on a Jessie netinstall

PART 1

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
sudo apt-get install apt-listbugs
sudo apt-get install policykit-1

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#43 2015-02-13 20:56:21

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Re: Wally - a Waldorf replica on a Jessie netinstall

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#44 2015-02-13 22:33:48

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Re: Wally - a Waldorf replica on a Jessie netinstall

^ This is exactly what we're in the process of figuring out now.  Most of us working on this are new to this ourselves.

If you're really jonesin' for something CrunchBangy-but-newer, I would heartily recommend one of the BBQ Openbox spins based on Sid.  Lightside and Darkside, in particular, were specifically built to look & feel very much like CrunchBang Waldorf.

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#45 2015-02-13 23:04:33

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Re: Wally - a Waldorf replica on a Jessie netinstall

Truthfully, I feel the progress has been amazing. A testament to the awesomeness that is this community.

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#46 2015-02-13 23:52:59

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#47 2015-02-13 23:58:17

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Re: Wally - a Waldorf replica on a Jessie netinstall

PART 1

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
sudo apt-get install apt-listbugs
sudo apt-get install policykit-1

Last edited by Snap (2015-02-13 23:59:10)

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#48 2015-02-14 00:06:08

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Re: Wally - a Waldorf replica on a Jessie netinstall

apt-listbugs and "apt-mark hold/unhold" is very quick and easy - an essential part of rolling with sid wink

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#49 2015-02-14 00:17:45

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Re: Wally - a Waldorf replica on a Jessie netinstall

This is all great stuff, hats off to John and all  smile

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#50 2015-02-14 00:26:29

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Re: Wally - a Waldorf replica on a Jessie netinstall

PART 1

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
sudo apt-get install apt-listbugs
sudo apt-get install policykit-1

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