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#1 2014-10-17 14:37:39

javelinanddart
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Registered: 2014-10-17
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Pentium III 800MHz 128MB RAM 20GB HDD

I have this old Compaq with Pentium III 800 MHz, 128MB RAM, and a 20GB HDD that I have to find. I was wondering if anyone had any tips for putting Waldorf on this, because I want to put a GUI on it but most aren't light enough. I don't want to use Puppy Linux because it doesn't have nearly enough programs or support base (Debian has TONS of wiki pages). I have a wireless card that I know works in Linux with the B43 drivers so if anyone knows if this setup will work well or not, please let me know.

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#2 2014-10-17 14:48:03

Neil
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From: Paragould AR USA
Registered: 2010-05-01
Posts: 219

Re: Pentium III 800MHz 128MB RAM 20GB HDD

You may have trouble if trying to run the live system, but it should install and run on that sytem with pre-configured 128MB swap space.

You might also want to look at AntiX, it's another Debian based distro that is even lighter on resources than #!.

Either way, if there is any way possible to install more RAM, you will have a much better experience.

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#3 2014-10-17 15:17:44

ohnonot
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Re: Pentium III 800MHz 128MB RAM 20GB HDD

it should work ok with crunchbang, once you get it installed (!), but you might want to replace a few apps with more lightweight versions: iceweasel (maybe dillo?), vlc (maybe plain mplayer? - that's already installed), gimp...

tbh, my oldest linux laptop had sth above 1GHz, and 512MB ram - it's what i consider minimum.

on second thought, antix might be better.

i wouldn't recommend puppy linux, either.  devil

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#4 2014-10-17 17:24:18

pvsage
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Re: Pentium III 800MHz 128MB RAM 20GB HDD

I'd recommend SliTaz, except its repo is even more limited than Puppy.

I have no personal experience with AntiX, but I know it is highly recommended for older, more limited hardware.

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#5 2014-10-17 18:33:51

javelinanddart
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Re: Pentium III 800MHz 128MB RAM 20GB HDD

Thanks to everyone. I've looked at AntiX and it seems OK. I'm following the old rule of thumb for twice the SWAP as you have RAM (except on my current machine because it has 8GB of RAM)
It's probably time to get rid of that old machine but I'll see how well it runs.

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#6 2014-10-17 18:42:02

Neil
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From: Paragould AR USA
Registered: 2010-05-01
Posts: 219

Re: Pentium III 800MHz 128MB RAM 20GB HDD

On second thought, it might be wise to make the swap space 1GB, if you can space the disk space.  You will probably need more than even 256MB on occasion.

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#7 2014-10-18 05:16:09

Bearded_Blunder
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Re: Pentium III 800MHz 128MB RAM 20GB HDD

I have a Compaq N200 with a very similar spec (PIII 700 192MB RAM), #! installed without a hitch, and runs usably, provided you don't do too much at once.

I had no problem booting the live session.. it just took a while....

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#8 2014-10-18 06:12:18

Choven
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Re: Pentium III 800MHz 128MB RAM 20GB HDD

Regarding ^^^

Similar situation here. Installed on an A21 thinkpad with similar specs. Libreoffice is mostly unusable, as is Firefox, but midori and vlc worked just fine. Used it for working in R and listening to music.  Good luck!

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#9 2014-10-18 07:34:48

woodape
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From: Cape Town, South Africa
Registered: 2014-03-27
Posts: 113

Re: Pentium III 800MHz 128MB RAM 20GB HDD

You could try a debian netinstall, install openbox, slim and tint2 and install everything else as needed. It'll come with essentially nothing, but as you point out Debian has great repositories so it's all available. I did this to make a sid machine and on first boot ( read without X) I was using about 20-30 megs of ram. Even after starting openbox through slim I dont think I broke 70 megs.
There's lots of threads on this forum about doing a netinstall, but the above suggestions for a full polished OS may be simpler

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#10 2014-10-18 19:49:32

jeffreyC
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Registered: 2010-09-02
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Re: Pentium III 800MHz 128MB RAM 20GB HDD

If at all possible increase the RAM, if you want it to be a useable computer.
RAM can be found for old computers, though sometimes it does become more expensive when it becomes rarer.
I had an IBM ThinkPad a20m that started with 128mb RAM, it seemed to spend 20 minutes thrashing the disk with swap to do anything, after I maxed it out with 512mb it became useable.


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#11 2014-10-19 08:13:20

ohnonot
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Re: Pentium III 800MHz 128MB RAM 20GB HDD

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#12 2014-10-20 05:01:38

tdlam
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Registered: 2014-09-29
Posts: 31

Re: Pentium III 800MHz 128MB RAM 20GB HDD

some other tricks you can do are/is...install a sound card if it doesn't already have one and disable on board sound in your BIOS if able. On board sound puts a load on your CPU.
Disable paralel and serial ports in your BIOS if not needed. . This can make your computer boot a bit faster.
Install a graphics card and disable on board video in your BIOS. On board graphics steal from your system ram but graphics cards use their own ram. You can find graphics cards for these old machines fairly cheap on ebay or even in other old machines, Ccheck inside to see what kind you need. Probably AGP or if real old PCI.
All these steps  can give your system a  boost.
+1 to MAXing out your ram as well. On a machine that old ram can be bought for a song or find some old clunker computers at a recycling center or thrift store, rip out the ram and upgrade. One thing I have found is sometimes you actually can exceed the max ram specced on these machines because at the time they just didnt know that the board could handle more. I have on occasion "force fed" ram into a computer with good results. But mostly what happens is that it will beep at you giving you an error code, LOL...

If you do use Crunchbang...experiement with the various themes...I have found that some dark themes can actually slow your performance a bit.

Anyway...thats my advice.
Wishing you the best!


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#13 2014-10-20 21:37:44

Different55
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Re: Pentium III 800MHz 128MB RAM 20GB HDD


Sorry about that. I accidentally posted my password in IRC and I had the same password set here so they changed my signature.

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#14 2014-10-21 06:37:36

ohnonot
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Re: Pentium III 800MHz 128MB RAM 20GB HDD

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#15 2014-10-21 16:01:49

jeffreyC
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Re: Pentium III 800MHz 128MB RAM 20GB HDD


There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people.

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#16 2014-10-22 02:52:29

Different55
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Re: Pentium III 800MHz 128MB RAM 20GB HDD


Sorry about that. I accidentally posted my password in IRC and I had the same password set here so they changed my signature.

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#17 2014-10-24 09:47:01

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Re: Pentium III 800MHz 128MB RAM 20GB HDD

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#18 2014-10-24 09:51:29

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Re: Pentium III 800MHz 128MB RAM 20GB HDD

I would probably go with plain Debian (no de) and install some wm, like dwm/i3.

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#19 2014-10-28 02:16:27

jeffreyC
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Re: Pentium III 800MHz 128MB RAM 20GB HDD


There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people.

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#20 2014-10-28 06:16:16

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Re: Pentium III 800MHz 128MB RAM 20GB HDD

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#21 2014-10-29 15:34:06

iann
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Re: Pentium III 800MHz 128MB RAM 20GB HDD

I still have an old PII 400 that runs Crunchbang adequately.  Max out the RAM though.  While the OS is fine, web browsing gets very tedious.

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#22 2014-10-29 23:31:22

Neil
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Re: Pentium III 800MHz 128MB RAM 20GB HDD

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#23 2014-10-29 23:43:23

schwim
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Re: Pentium III 800MHz 128MB RAM 20GB HDD

I found Midori to strike a great balance between lightweight and features.  I use it on my Windows partition to watch Netflix and Amazon movies via Silverlight.  Firefox made watching movies impossible due to it's overhead, but Midori handles it fantastically.

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#24 2014-10-30 01:40:12

TicTac
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Registered: 2014-10-23
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Re: Pentium III 800MHz 128MB RAM 20GB HDD

@ Javelinanddart,

If you're still interested, I installed Waldorf on an old Compaq Presario with a 700Mhz clock and 256 Mb of memory. It worked and did many tasks well but as stated above, you'll really be pulling your hair out while using a browser on today's interweb.

Another option and to conserve as much system resource as possible, is a Debian netinstall. If you like the look and "feel" of #!, you can pull in openbox, obmenu and other essentials from the repos... While being mindful to tailor make a system to your machine's liking. I did this about a year ago on an old Dell desktop with 256 Mb of that crazy RDRAM architecture memory they used for a short time. When done and with Wbar... It's static footprint was only 43 Mb.

Just a thought.  smile


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#25 2014-10-31 12:39:58

josephg
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Re: Pentium III 800MHz 128MB RAM 20GB HDD

till ~2yrs ago, my home laptop was an old pentium 128m ram, with 8g hdd. it started life with 64m, until i doubled the ram some years later. debian stable netinstall minimal, replaced much of the system with busybox, mostly console apps including mplayer worked great. had to fire up x for browsing, and some fb addiction. my modded opera with javascript disabled, worked fine mostly. had firefox for emergency, but it'd almost make me want to kill myself. crap websites all turning into javascript/html5 bloatware overload was my only major issue.

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