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#1 2014-10-06 15:49:12

burritomike
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Crunchbang Mini ITX build

First full PC build. I love the #! but my wife loves the Windows and refuses to convert. We do small things like word processing, interwebz, and I want to start learning some programming. Not gamers at all (unless you count SNES roms!) so I think the parts I have tentatively decided on will FAR exceed our needs, but the cost is decent so I'm cool with it. I already have keyboard/mouse, 22" widescreen moniter, speakers, etc. Anyone want to chime in and make suggestions or tell me what I am doing wrong? Also, I'll be getting 2 x 8gb DDR3 but don't know how to decide between the different brands, I was planning on waiting for Cyber Monday to try and score a deal on that. I also don't know what sort of wattage I should be looking for in a PSU, so suggestions there would be very helpful smile

Thanks everyone!

Rosewill Legacy V3 Plus case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … -_-Product

GIGABYTE GA-B85N Phoenix-WIFI mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6813128735

Intel Core i5-4670K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … -_-Product

240GB PNY Optima Internal SSD
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#2 2014-10-06 16:48:58

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Re: Crunchbang Mini ITX build

Want to answer questions in my sig? or are you good?

Well I see a red flag, choosing a haswell system. Crunchbang support won't be there since the kernel is older. Although it should be fine once you backport it to one of the latest.

also any 450W-500W would do ( assuming you eventually want to add a better GPU as well. )
if you don't plan on getting a better GPU you can probably get away with a 300W PSU.

my suggestion, assuming you won't be OCing or anything like that ( likely not since the board won't support it anyways ).

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#3 2014-10-06 17:57:14

burritomike
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Re: Crunchbang Mini ITX build

Any Form Factor preferences or do Sizes even matter?

Mini ITX

What will you be using this machine for?

Crunchbang OS. Internet (CB, YouTube, Gmail, News sites, nothing heavy), Windows VM, MS Office, LibreOffice, music player, stream video to my TV

Will you possibly play Linux games on it?

Nope

What is your RAM usage currently like?

4gb, typically not using more than 25%

[SSD, HDD, or both?

240gb SSD for PC storage, 1-2tb HDD for media to be streamed to my TV

Will you need a DVD-RW Drive?

Nope

Budget, and is the budget set or flexible?

$600-700 with a bit of wiggle room

Does that include Keyboard, mouse, and/or monitor?

No peripherals needed

Any brand loyalty we should know about or do you even care?

I like the Rosewill Legacy V3 Plus case. Intel mobo with integrated wifi, no brand loyalty there though. Everything else I am open to suggestion on.

any CPU and GPU brand preferences?

Intel i5 if possible. No GPU, onboard graphics will be sufficient.


Thanks CSCoder4ever!!


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#4 2014-10-06 18:04:53

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Re: Crunchbang Mini ITX build

Well it looks like all you need is a power supply and you should be fine! update that kernel though!

Also, I'd get 8GB of RAM since the integrated graphics would use it anyways, might as well get some extra headroom as well.

yes yes I know crunchbang doesn't use a lot, but hey, if you want a system that exceeds your needs, go all out tongue

also I updated my thread a little bit because yeah, I know you want ITX- and fortunately you know the case you wanted- but, There are MANY different sizes of ITX cases out there, there are some monster ones like my Crunch Pro's, or even some like your case.

Thanks for helping me improve my thread as well!  big_smile

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#5 2014-10-06 19:38:19

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Re: Crunchbang Mini ITX build

CSCoder4ever wrote:

update that kernel though!

So why did you cross out this bit? I am not familiar with the difference between Ivy Bridge and Haswell... Will the Haswell proc be acceptable with out backporting a newer kernel after all?


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#6 2014-10-06 20:16:35

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Re: Crunchbang Mini ITX build

I just did it just because lol.

But yeah, update that kernel. you'll be glad you did.

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#7 2014-10-06 20:39:10

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Re: Crunchbang Mini ITX build

CSCoder4ever wrote:

I just did it just because lol.

But yeah, update that kernel. you'll be glad you did.

Oh, haha, sorry I am not very up to date on forum speak! I will figure out how to backport smile

You mentioned 8gb of memory, besides cost, is there any particular reason to not go with 16? I mean, I've got the capacity for up to 16 with most i5 processors, right?


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#8 2014-10-06 20:52:22

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Re: Crunchbang Mini ITX build

If you want 16GB By all means go for it. I would have 16GB on my system, but it's out of my budget right now and I should think about a new system anyways lol.

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#9 2014-10-06 21:13:31

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Re: Crunchbang Mini ITX build

IF you want to save a couple bucks, I would go for the non-K version of that 4670. In an ITX case you are not gonna overclock anyways.

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#10 2014-10-06 23:36:09

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Re: Crunchbang Mini ITX build

^ Incorrect. my 2500k runs @ 4.6

and it's in an ITX case  lol

But no, he won't overclock because the board won't support it anyways, other than that though I agree with ya, go for the locked version. You'll get some of that VT-d goodness!  big_smile

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#11 2014-10-08 15:26:12

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Re: Crunchbang Mini ITX build

CSCoder4ever wrote:

I just did it just because lol.

But yeah, update that kernel. you'll be glad you did.

So, I looked into backporting a newer kernel and it might be a bit out of my league right now. How were you able to determine that the mobo I am looking at won't support an older kernel? If I knew what criteria you look at to know such things, I can research different boards and find one that will support CB out of the box!

Thanks smile

EDIT: My mistake, it was the Haswell CPU that doesn't support the older kernel. But I would be able to apply the same question to the processor, right?

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#12 2014-10-08 15:35:03

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Re: Crunchbang Mini ITX build

Or maybe I will give Arch a try and go learn a few things in the process like mentioned in this thread!

CSCoder4ever wrote:

I knew this would happen lol. If I had a Haswell system I personally would be using Arch, but that's just me personally.


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#13 2014-10-08 15:37:50

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Re: Crunchbang Mini ITX build

I'm running Waldorf quite happily on an i5-4670K (not OC'd) without having to backport, so it does work, but I am guessing I am missing something?

FWIW, your spec appears over the top for what you want to do with the PC, but will give you years of service before software bloat catches up (like it always does wink )

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#14 2014-10-08 15:44:33

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Re: Crunchbang Mini ITX build

Joe90 wrote:

I'm running Waldorf quite happily on an i5-4670K (not OC'd) without having to backport, so it does work, but I am guessing I am missing something?

This is interesting. Not knowing what the fixes are that backporting a kernel provides, I wouldn't have the slightest clue what would be missing! Maybe someone special will chime in with that info smile

Joe90 wrote:

FWIW, your spec appears over the top for what you want to do with the PC, but will give you years of service before software bloat catches up (like it always does wink )

You are 100% right with this. It is, admittedly, way more computer than I need right now. The last brand new desktop machine I had was purchased in 1999. I plan to make this one last just as long, if not longer because I am slowing down in my "old" age wink


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#15 2014-10-08 15:57:38

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Re: Crunchbang Mini ITX build

I don't know, I've noticed in the help section that many people these days that have troubles installing #! had Haswell Hardware. That's why I mentioned that.

and I'll see if I can get my desktop replaced either next year or the year after next wink

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#16 2014-10-08 21:02:23

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Re: Crunchbang Mini ITX build

burritomike wrote:

So, I looked into backporting a newer kernel and it might be a bit out of my league right now.

http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=36896
You can do it!
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#17 2014-10-09 13:46:51

burritomike
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Re: Crunchbang Mini ITX build

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
burritomike wrote:

So, I looked into backporting a newer kernel and it might be a bit out of my league right now.

http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=36896
You can do it!
smile

I seriously love the Crunchbang community.


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