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#601 2015-06-25 18:52:45

cpoakes
#! CrunchBanger
From: Tucson, Arizona
Registered: 2012-05-19
Posts: 202

Re: boycott systemd

You don't have to wait for Y3K! The 2K38 bug "looms" on the horizon. lol


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#602 2015-06-25 19:01:34

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Re: boycott systemd

OH NO! Not the 2K38 bug ... naaaaaaaaaaa they'll fix it!  Won't they?  huh?  HUH?


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#603 2015-06-26 22:24:35

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Registered: 2009-10-18
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Re: boycott systemd

Sector11 wrote:

If ponies can fly, if horses can fly, Pegasus, and pig's can fly ... why not a monkey?

NB:  Don't know the movie reference.

How many films was Margaret Hamilton in?  (I think there might have been a girl in the film...and her little dog, too.  Just when you think you aren't in Kansas anymore... wink )

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#604 2015-06-26 22:35:13

porkpiehat
#! Die Hard
Registered: 2012-10-02
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Re: boycott systemd

pvsage wrote:

How many films was Margaret Hamilton in?

Quite a few, actually... ;-)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_ … ilmography

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#605 2015-06-26 22:44:54

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^ Cool; nice to know she had such a diverse CV.

@Sector11:  I notice the picture you found was of Nikko, so apparently you were only a step away from the film reference.

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#606 2015-06-26 22:45:10

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Re: boycott systemd

^  Yup, 72 films.  smile

Nikko?  Hey, I just Starpaged "flying monkeys" and hit images.   wink


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#607 2015-06-26 22:49:58

porkpiehat
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Re: boycott systemd

pvsage wrote:

^ Cool; nice to know she had such a diverse CV.

She even appeared on Sesame Street. (The picture in this link might give S11 another clue.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_ … age_career

This is seriously off-topic ;-)

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#608 2015-06-27 08:30:29

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#609 2015-08-29 11:34:04

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Re: boycott systemd

Hold on, the end is near! systemd is on track to replace the su(1) command.

poettering wrote:

Well, there have been long discussions about this, but the problem is that what "su" is supposed to do is very unclear. On one hand it's supposed to open a new session and change a number of execution context parameters (uid, gid, env, ...), and on the other it's supposed to inherit a lot concepts from the originating session (tty, cgroup, audit, ...). Since this is so weakly defined it's a really weird mix&match of old and new paramters. To keep this somewhat managable we decided to only switch the absolute minimum over, and that excludes XDG_RUNTIME_DIR, specifically because XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is actually bound to the session/audit runtime and those we do not transition. Instead we simply unset it.

Long story short: "su" is really a broken concept. It will given you kind of a shell, and it's fine to use it for that, but it's not a full login, and shouldn't be mistaken for one.

THis has come up many times, but nothing really changed, hence closing this now. I understand this is confusing and unexpected, but well, that's UNIX...

(Source).

"Hey we broke su, and here is the replacement."


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#610 2015-08-29 11:38:22

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Re: boycott systemd

twoion wrote:

"Hey we broke su, and here is the replacement."

Or: "`su` is fundamentally broken and here is a better alternative" big_smile

I like all these new features...

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#611 2015-08-29 11:53:12

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Re: boycott systemd

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
twoion wrote:

"Hey we broke su, and here is the replacement."

Or: "`su` is fundamentally broken and here is a better alternative" big_smile

I like all these new features...

My glasses are always half-empty. I just finished drinking my breakfast tea (from a large cup).


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#612 2015-08-29 12:26:11

pingu
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Registered: 2014-12-05
Posts: 367

Re: boycott systemd

I'd need some brainwashing to see the glass half full thing. roll


"We don't merge kernel code just because user space was written by a retarded monkey on crack."
Linus f****g Trovalds

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#613 2015-09-19 15:10:05

pingu
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Posts: 367

Re: boycott systemd

I've just found this: http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/
lol


"We don't merge kernel code just because user space was written by a retarded monkey on crack."
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