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#1 2014-01-06 19:09:45

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CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

Here's the new Wiggle Puppy thread...

following on from this.

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#2 2014-01-06 19:15:39

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

So, would an Ubuntu Minimal install be a good starting point? And do we know how much of #! is #! and not Debian? 'Cos that'd help in setting up the configs and stuff, I guess...


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#3 2014-01-06 19:19:41

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

To be perfectly honest, I've never found anything that's in Debian but not Ubuntu, although I might be wrong. You can check the Waldorf packages here http://packages.crunchbang.org/waldorf/pool/main/

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#4 2014-01-06 19:22:08

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

photonucleon wrote:

So, would an Ubuntu Minimal install be a good starting point? And do we know how much of #! is #! and not Debian? 'Cos that'd help in setting up the configs and stuff, I guess...

Sure, I Would think so. but that brings up another question...

who's going to build it?

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#5 2014-01-06 19:24:59

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

Start here: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=221231

You will need to replace the statler repo with waldorf, but it's actually quite easy to crunchify an Ubuntu netinstall. Or an antix install: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic. … 00#p233800

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#6 2014-01-06 19:26:24

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

Shouldn't be too much of a problem to add that repo to the sources of an Ubuntu Minimal install... it *should* all be compatible... This should be a starting point. If I have time (other commitments being a little crazy at the moment) I'll install Ubuntu minimally either tonight or sometime this week, and begin building up a Wiggle Puppy system. Might I inquire as to the origin of the name Wiggle Puppy, incidentally?


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#7 2014-01-06 19:30:36

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

porkpiehat wrote:

Start here: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=221231

You will need to replace the statler repo with waldorf, but it's actually quite easy to crunchify an Ubuntu netinstall. Or an antix install: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic. … 00#p233800

Thank you! This was pretty much the process I had in mind, but there were a few things in there that I was unaware of, so that has saved me a few breakages smile I'm downloading an Ubuntu minimal install now (Saucy Salamander).


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#8 2014-01-06 19:32:18

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

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#9 2014-01-06 19:34:10

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

Aha! I'm not too familiar with The Simpsons (I have no TV), so I didn't get the reference... smile


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#10 2014-01-06 19:35:52

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

In the meantime, I'll try and think of all the things we might need to consider and try and get an idea of cost.

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#11 2014-01-06 19:43:21

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

Ubuntu Saucy minimal now burning to CD...


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#12 2014-01-06 19:53:19

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

Cool. I can test too when you're ready.

If anyone has some tips as to what we need to consider, please wade in with your comments/thoughts etc.

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#13 2014-01-06 20:25:58

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

Two things:
1) Is Wiggle Puppy the distro name or the release codename?

2)I made a temporary logo until there's a proper one:
1389039419.png

Edit: I'm now setting up a partition on my HDD to begin the install/building of Wiggle Puppy...

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#14 2014-01-06 20:31:33

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

you sure about that? I have a couple machines I can dedicate to this project right now

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#15 2014-01-06 20:36:55

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

Yes. Let's do this.

Love the logo but bear in mind Canonical are fairly "protective" of their brand.

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#16 2014-01-06 20:41:51

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

Wiggle Puppy is the code name, I guess. It could really be anything. I don't think the name is so important at this stage.

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#17 2014-01-06 20:48:40

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

CSCoder4ever wrote:

you sure about that? I have a couple machines I can dedicate to this project right now

In which case, it would be much better if you were to build up the system; I would be running on the very little spare time I have and my 8 yr old laptop neutral I can definitely help out with testing though, and I could help with stuff like writing new welcome scripts and such.

@intoCB, yeah, that logo will in all likelihood have to go - it was just a two minutes in GIMP thing, and a much better one can I am sure be produced by a more skilled artist than me tongue


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#18 2014-01-06 21:05:47

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

wiggle.jpg

Well I'm a terrible artist but this was a bit of fun smile

But really, names and logos are irrelevant at this point wink

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#19 2014-01-06 21:06:13

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

Wiggle Puppy! I'm a big Ralph Wiggum fan, so I love the name. smile

One thing I don't understand though, why based on Ubuntu instead of the obvious distro? (Puppy!!!)

Have you tried the historical CrunchBang releases based on Ubuntu yet? That is where I would start; maybe see if you can get them upgraded to the current release. Also check out MadBox which is a very slick Ubuntu-based distro. And of course the fine work of the BBQ team, at first when I read the name of this thread, I assumed it was one of their release announcements. wink


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#20 2014-01-06 21:13:48

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

Using an old ubuntu-based crunchbang as a starting point or a source of ideas at least would be good... but as I said I'm gonna back out of building a testing image right now as I'm not too confident I'll succeed or have enough time tongue


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#21 2014-01-06 21:25:56

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

^^

1. Don't really know puppy but the main inspiration for this was getting a sense that this is what people like ew want.
2. Had mixed results with Ubuntu-based historical versions. But I would prefer to adhere to what #! is currently.
3. Madbox is good but a bit less solid than #! and it isn't it based on the LTS?
4. Well, I am a big fan of Linuxbbq, particularly the excellent documentation - and freely recognise the conceptual influence but this is meant to be day-to-day useable and to stand the test of time. I think Linuxbbq is more about trying different flavours of stuff.

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#22 2014-01-06 21:59:27

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

intoCB wrote:

^^

1. Don't really know puppy but the main inspiration for this was getting a sense that this is what people like ew want.
2. Had mixed results with Ubuntu-based historical versions. But I would prefer to adhere to what #! is currently.
3. Madbox is good but a bit less solid than #! and it isn't it based on the LTS?
4. Well, I am a big fan of Linuxbbq, particularly the excellent documentation - and freely recognise the conceptual influence but this is meant to be day-to-day useable and to stand the test of time. I think Linuxbbq is more about trying different flavours of stuff.

I'd tend to agree with all of this...

I'll just post up here a list of development roles so that we kinda know what each of us is doing towards Wiggle Puppy; it should help get things going. This is certainly not a definitive list and is definitely open to modification/expansion! Just as a rough idea:

intoCB: primary considerer of things and any costs, distro tester
CSCoder4ever: testing image builder/distro tester, scripting
photonucleon: distro tester, bits of scripting here and there

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#23 2014-01-06 22:33:34

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

I could do some scripting as well, however, which machine should I build this image on?

my htpc which has an i3 processor, 8GB RAM, and 6770 video card or should I use my AMD e350 box (basically a nettop)

also start out with the 32-bit ISO or the 64-bit?

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#24 2014-01-06 22:40:07

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

CSCoder4ever wrote:

I could do some scripting as well, however, which machine should I build this image on?

my htpc which has an i3 processor, 8GB RAM, and 6770 video card or should I use my AMD e350 box (basically a nettop)

I guess it's up to you, really... will the image be 32bit? 64bit? One of each? I only have my rather old EasyNote with an Intel Celeron M... runs #! fine though, so testing Wiggle Puppy images shouldn't be a problem for me...

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#25 2014-01-06 22:48:15

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Re: CrunchBuntu Wiggle Puppy

I'm downloading the 64-bit, if anyone opposes, speak now!

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