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#26 2013-12-26 00:33:55

ew
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Re: Beginners Linux for HP nc8430?

anonymous wrote:

@ew - You can just google for HP nc8430. It seems to have a Core 2 Duo processor, 1 GB of memory, and ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 graphics. I particularly like that its a business laptop and has a nice display resolution of 1680x1050.

Yes, but if you were to google any of my laptops, you wouldn`t be able to what my specs are. Because the same model is often sold in different configurations. When I google that one, I see that it seems to be just one configuration. But it can be upgraded with more RAM, and it`s a big difference if he`s got 1 GB ram, or 2 GB. As I never would recommend any flavour of Mint with just 1 GB RAM.

But if he has the default specs for that model, I would recommend the i486-version of Crunchbang. There isn`t anything that will run better on those specs.... But I can not claim that a Windows-user instantly would feel at home in openbox and #!


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#27 2013-12-26 01:29:06

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Re: Beginners Linux for HP nc8430?

ew wrote:

Because the same model is often sold in different configurations. When I google that one, I see that it seems to be just one configuration. But it can be upgraded with more RAM,

Very true. But since you asked how old it was, the base specs do you give you an idea.

ew wrote:

and it`s a big difference if he`s got 1 GB ram, or 2 GB. As I never would recommend any flavour of Mint with just 1 GB RAM.

Linux Mint is that heavy huh?

ew wrote:

But if he has the default specs for that model, I would recommend the i486-version of Crunchbang.

Why i486 instead of i686?

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#28 2013-12-26 02:24:58

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Re: Beginners Linux for HP nc8430?

anonymous wrote:

Linux Mint is that heavy huh?

Why i486 instead of i686?

In my experience, Linux Mint isn`t snappy on anything, regardless which LM-release you choose.

Why i486 instead of i686? Well, my experience is that the i486-build of #! is even lighter on the RAM. At least that`s the case on this pc, and I have Intel Core i5-3210M CPU @ 3.1GHz.  Of course I use AMD64 normally, but I have a i486-install on another partition, and it hardly uses RAM at all... It`s almost like I want to use it on this pc, even though I have 8 GB of ram. save the enviroment you know  O:)

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#29 2013-12-26 09:23:56

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Re: Beginners Linux for HP nc8430?

Hi MartinRF.  I'll make the recommendations from a "newbie" standpoint.  I started off with Linux Mint Debian Edition, with the MATE desktop. It is a little rough around the edges.  This means it will work out to the box but there is tidying up to do to make it more convenient.  Once that's done, its rock solid and almost indistinguishable from the regular flavoured Mint.  There is of course Crunchbang if your sister is a little bit adventurous and likes the slickness of OpenbBox.  There is also Manjaro Linux.  This is designed with the newbie in mind.  It looks gorgeous there are many different spins of it.  I have tried ManjaroBox and I can say it basically works out of the box.  There are a few things to add but it is really easy to have it up and running the way you want it within minutes.  Strangely, it is based on Arch Linux but less aggressive, making it really newbie friendly.  You can easily have, "stable, testing, or unstable" versions of it too.  As I said, it really has the newbie in mind, so it is really easy to manage and the OpenBox spin is stunning.  It also has really comprehensive documentation via Manjaro's own wiki and of course Arch's own extensive documentation.  I hope this helps.

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#30 2013-12-26 18:59:45

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Re: Beginners Linux for HP nc8430?

http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2524

I would say this also speaks in favor of LM13.

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#31 2013-12-27 00:33:31

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Re: Beginners Linux for HP nc8430?

intoCB wrote:

http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2524

I would say this also speaks in favor of LM13.

I have to agree with you. Just adding the download link for them, so that they don`t get lost and downloads "Petra" instead.
Here is the Maya links :http://www.linuxmint.com/release.php?id=18

Manjaro is a stretch for someone that isn`t interested in learning anything new.


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#32 2013-12-28 01:52:04

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Re: Beginners Linux for HP nc8430?

If the computer ever had windows on it, and there is a sticker, why not just find an ISO of the OEM windows ditribution and call it a computer?

Esp. if she has any software she has ever bought and so on.

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#33 2013-12-30 18:08:52

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Re: Beginners Linux for HP nc8430?

I like the aesthetics of Manjaro.  They have done a great job of making Arch friendlier.  And Manjaro, like Archbang, provides an easy installation path to get started with Arch.  But it is still not painless - Arch/Manjoro is bleeding edge: you will have to get your hands dirty and sometimes they will bleed.  Not for the technologically timid...


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#34 2013-12-30 18:37:47

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Re: Beginners Linux for HP nc8430?

I believe Manjaro, like LMDE, has their own repos so updates are not quite as quick as upstream. Otherwise I agree, I would be hesitant to recommend any form of Arch to a Linux newbie.

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#35 2013-12-30 19:20:36

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Re: Beginners Linux for HP nc8430?

I definitely vote for something Debian based (like #!lol 

Or - if you feel like taking on a bit of a project - try this:
Do an Arch install, & just go from there & fine-tune it to her wants & needs. Even if she has no interest in the intricacies of what you're doing, anyone would love to have a custom system built around their personal needs (why do you think Apple is so popular with the unwashed masses?) & if anything, a system that's been made exclusively for her should be the most user friendly for her   smile


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#36 2013-12-31 00:08:45

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Re: Beginners Linux for HP nc8430?

Me too. Debian it is. But only because I really hate pacman and AUR. I can`t relate to that shit  tongue

If they only had used pacman-get upgrade/dist upgrade, instead of that insane pacman -syu crap  ]:D

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#37 2014-01-03 10:24:05

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Re: Beginners Linux for HP nc8430?

I am back from visiting my relatives.

Mint Maya XFCE works fine on this lap-top but I had a bit of a struggle with the Broadcom WiFi HW. Mint installed a firmware verson that did not work. After several attempts at sorting this out and failing I came very close to installing Waldorf instead. What I did in the end was to note what firmware Waldorf used and doing some reading I found out how to get there with Maya.

The kids started to play on-line, flash-based games right away.

/Martin

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