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#1 2013-07-12 07:19:54

uname
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source code of Crunchbang

I think Crunchbang is  licensed under GPL. Because of NSA PRISM please post the link to all source code (e.g. git) so i can recompile all from Debian Live. Thanks.

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#2 2013-07-12 07:40:42

JLloyd13
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Re: source code of Crunchbang

most open source repositories have a src repo (a repo of source code) to go along with them. To download source from a debian style repository, check that it is enabled in your source.list and then use

# apt-get source (package)

I will note however that some packages in #! are not GPL, you can't license a other project with thousands of packages if those packages have other devs. some BSD, some LGPL, even some non-FOSS stuff in #! (although none in debian if you don't enable that repo) If your worried about privacy, you should be doing things like dropping google and facebook, etc. recompiling FOSS packages doesn't do anything (unless you plan to audit the code yourself, which would be pointless and dumb as well as almost impossible)

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#3 2013-07-12 09:27:26

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Re: source code of Crunchbang

you should be doing things like dropping google and facebook, etc. recompiling FOSS packages doesn't do anything (unless you plan to audit the code yourself, which would be pointless and dumb as well as almost impossible)

I do not want to audit the native Debian code. I only want to audit the Crunchbang code.

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#4 2013-07-12 09:31:57

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#5 2013-07-12 10:50:51

uname
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Re: source code of Crunchbang

linux kernel, build-system, ...

Yes i know http://packages.crunchbang.org/waldorf/pool/main

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#6 2013-07-12 16:28:40

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Re: source code of Crunchbang

Isn't the kernel coming straight from Debian? It's not a cb-kernel.
In the build process are only hooks in Debian Live (for example, see http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=12150)
There's nothing really hidden. The user files are in /etc/skel, everything else in the link you posted.


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#7 2013-07-12 18:16:11

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Re: source code of Crunchbang

JLloyd13 wrote:

If your worried about privacy, you should be doing things like dropping google and facebook, etc. recompiling FOSS packages doesn't do anything (unless you plan to audit the code yourself, which would be pointless and dumb as well as almost impossible)

Also see my post here...http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=27323

07/12/2013-01 edit:  And of course, there's this thread on security for the paranoid...http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=24722

07/12/2013-02 edit:  ...or this:  http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=24722

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#8 2013-07-14 20:13:55

ew
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Re: source code of Crunchbang

uname wrote:

I think Crunchbang is  licensed under GPL. Because of NSA PRISM please post the link to all source code (e.g. git) so i can recompile all from Debian Live. Thanks.

Edit: Censored it myself...., as it would create something that`s more suitable on forums for politics:)

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#9 2013-07-15 04:54:38

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Re: source code of Crunchbang

I think nobody recognize my problem. The ISO is like proprietary software like Windows because i can not really control it. Greetings to NSA.

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#10 2013-07-15 05:04:41

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Re: source code of Crunchbang

Just how do you want to control it?  You can open the ISO and do whatever you want with it


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#11 2013-07-15 07:36:09

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Re: source code of Crunchbang

The very fact that you're on the net == "greetings to NSA"

Either way - good luck with whatever it is that floats your boat...
And I mean that in a non-offensive way of speaking...


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#12 2013-07-15 12:20:50

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Re: source code of Crunchbang

uname wrote:

I think nobody recognize my problem. The ISO is like proprietary software like Windows because i can not really control it. Greetings to NSA.

I think if nobody recognises your problem, it's because you haven't explained it well enough. In your first post you asked for all the source code of #! specific packages, which you yourself later linked to; how did this not solve your problem? Everything else in #! comes straight from the Debian repos, which you presumably trust...

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#13 2013-07-15 13:55:12

uname
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Re: source code of Crunchbang

I think that is not ok. With the pool-directory i can not build Crunchbang.

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#14 2013-07-15 14:17:08

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Re: source code of Crunchbang

Sense. You're not making it.
What is not okay?

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#15 2013-07-15 18:37:23

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Re: source code of Crunchbang

@uname:  Of course you cannot build CrunchBang solely with the contents of the CrunchBang repositories.  CrunchBang is over 99% Debian; therefore, you also need the Debian repos.  I was hoping this would have been clear from previous responses in this thread...

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#16 2013-07-15 19:13:41

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Re: source code of Crunchbang

uname wrote:

I think nobody recognize my problem. The ISO is like proprietary software like Windows because i can not really control it. Greetings to NSA.

I recognize your problem, it's in your complete lack of understanding the subject matter. Unfortunately, solving the problem would entail much more work than anyone is interested to offer.

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#17 2013-07-15 19:16:18

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Re: source code of Crunchbang

^ What I always admire about you el_k, you tell it like it is...


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#18 2013-07-15 19:53:21

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Re: source code of Crunchbang

el_koraco wrote:

I recognize your problem, it's in your complete lack of understanding the subject matter. Unfortunately, solving the problem would entail much more work than anyone is interested to offer.

lol  I seldom actually laugh around here.  This one got me.  I totally lost it.

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#19 2013-07-15 21:14:38

pvsage
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Re: source code of Crunchbang

So we're all on the same page here?  OP is trolling FUD?

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#20 2013-07-15 21:17:54

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Re: source code of Crunchbang

^ Aye, closure is fine by me


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#21 2013-07-15 21:27:08

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Re: source code of Crunchbang

It's either a troll, or such a limited understanding of how modular systems work that there's no hope in covering it in one post.
Whatever you want to do.  I've been amused if nothing else.

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#22 2013-07-15 22:12:38

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Re: source code of Crunchbang

Please if I might present another opinion -- look at some of uname's other posts. 258 posts here, and most have been very helpful. Before you dismiss this as mere trolling, you might try harder to understand what he is trying to do. I admit that I don't get it either, but I don't think simply "/closed" is the appropriate response.

uname, if you have issues with the #! code, why not simply remove it all and do a Debian netinstall (assuming you trust Debian code)?

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#23 2013-07-15 22:19:48

ew
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Re: source code of Crunchbang

DebianJoe wrote:

It's either a troll, or such a limited understanding of how modular systems work that there's no hope in covering it in one post.
Whatever you want to do.  I've been amused if nothing else.

Yes, but there`s nothing wrong with that. I can`t understand why everyone seems to be so concerned about staying on topic, and why trolling immidiately is closed down. Especially now during summertime, almost all activity is better than none:)


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#24 2013-07-15 22:30:46

ew
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Re: source code of Crunchbang

pidsley wrote:

Please if I might present another opinion -- look at some of uname's other posts. 258 posts here, and most have been very helpful. Before you dismiss this as mere trolling, you might try harder to understand what he is trying to do. I admit that I don't get it either, but I don't think simply "/closed" is the appropriate response.

uname, if you have issues with the #! code, why not simply remove it all and do a Debian netinstall (assuming you trust Debian code)?

Agreed. It`s no need to close him down, and personally I don`t think he`s trolling. I know lot`s of people who are truly conserned about such privacy issues, and Big Brother is watching you, or as in the US, Uncle Sam is watching you... It doesn`t have to be trolling, it could just be what most of us would regard as a bit paranoid. But who are we to judge, maybe they are right, and we are to naive...

What I don`t understand is why he`s so concerned by the Crunchbang code, it`s not like a NSA Prism infection is hidden there. I assume that they are able to monitor us in all OS and all distros regardless if we compile and build it ourselves. I could be wrong of course...


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#25 2013-07-15 22:54:01

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Re: source code of Crunchbang

Okay, I don't think he's trolling...I had to look up some previous posts, and he's normally very concise.

uname wrote:

I think nobody recognize my problem. The ISO is like proprietary software like Windows because i can not really control it. Greetings to NSA.

Obviously, I'm not getting at what your issue is.  Where is it that the break down for examining the source is getting hard?  Can you not unzip the entire image file and make sense of it?  What specifically isn't adding up?

Edit.  Of course, if it's Free-as-in-FREEDOM you're concerned with here's a good list to get started with.

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