How to keep Iceweasel upgraded in #! with the Mozilla backport ...

CBizgreat! · 2013-06-30 00:36:43

Step 1: Add the Mozilla backport to your sources.list ( Note: All terminal commands done without the quotes.)

Open terminal and type "gksu geany /etc/apt/sources.list &exit"

When the file opens scroll down to the bottom and add the Mozilla repo shown below.

# Mozilla backport
deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ wheezy-backports iceweasel-release

Step 2: Change the pin-priorities assigned to your software repo's as follows.

Terminal again .... Open the apt preferences file "gksu geany /etc/apt/preferences &exit" and edit them as follows ...

Package: *
Pin: release a=waldorf
Pin-Priority: 990
Package: *
Pin: release a=wheezy
Pin-Priority: 500
Package: *
Pin: release a=wheezy-backports
Pin-Priority: 200

Step 3: Add the Mozilla apt key and upgrade Iceweasel

Yep terminal again ... "sudo apt-get install pkg-mozilla-archive-keyring" Afterwards refresh packages and install latest release of Iceweasel with the following command, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -t wheezy-backports iceweasel". You're done, refill your coffee cup or beverage of choice and enjoy.

There you have it folks, Iceweasel will automatically upgrade in future when you do an a system upgrade forevermore "ie: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" ... Yay !

Vl#!!

One more edit ... During the process you'll be told xyz packages were installed and are no longer needed. It'll also tell you how to remove them, do so "sudo apt-get autoremove" Sheesh ... now there you have it. This babble how to gets the cbiz official seal of approval. That's a wrap !

Last edited by CBizgreat! (2013-06-30 01:01:43)

pepys · 2013-06-30 11:48:04

Absolutely splendid - many thanks!

CBizgreat! · 2013-06-30 11:52:26

^ Ya most welcome and thanks for the thanks too.

VLL!

Naik · 2013-06-30 12:12:52

nice thing, thanks!

but are there any ... sid-backports?
and another thing: I wouldn`t change the pinning yet because -as mentionable- i am on sid and not sure whether or not there are difficulties to be expected when changing the pinnig just the way you told us to...
any suggestions?

greetz -naik

CBizgreat! · 2013-06-30 12:45:13

Not trying to be a jerk ... This thread has nothing to do w Sid though. Advise you to post a question in Off topic / General Chat section of the forums. Likely people will give you pointers.

Meanwhile ... STOP CRAPPING UP MY BABBLE HOW 2 with off-topic-ness !

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ivanovnegro · 2013-06-30 19:47:43

Naik wrote:

nice thing, thanks!
but are there any ... sid-backports?
and another thing: I wouldn`t change the pinning yet because -as mentionable- i am on sid and not sure whether or not there are difficulties to be expected when changing the pinnig just the way you told us to...
any suggestions?
greetz -naik

You are on Sid. Then, what are you doing with backports? Take Iceweasel from Experimental.

apt-get install -t experimental iceweasel

It works in the same manner like backports after adding Experimental to your sources of course.

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CBizgreat! · 2013-06-30 20:42:21

Lmao ... Sir Ivan ... you are hijacking my babble too ! However you are always welcome to hijack whatever you choose Mi Amigo. Much respect to Ivan ... Ironically both Sir Ivan and myself much prefer good ole friggin Firefox ... more sighs.

German guy though ... start your own thread, stay on point and/or send me/others a PM. Feel bad about the above ... nor worthy anyway. Yeah would've answered a PM. Anyway ... shutting it now. Bad Sir Ivan ... BAD !!! Though you have carte blanche.

I'm getting rowdy ... so signing off until fit for human consumption.

ivanovnegro · 2013-06-30 21:08:25

Wanted to bump up your thread with my name, it sure will get more responses now. ]:D

Funny, I had a similar thread, it was wideley ignored it seems as people still cry for assistance to install Iceweasel.

CBizgreat! · 2013-06-30 21:18:20

As it should Sir Ivan ... Yep ... much bytching haz been done about this ...

Invested more than a tad of time fact checking/etc. Was some guy/banger quasi insulting Machine ... that pushed me over the edge ... sighs. Mb + Ivan have invested A LOT here. Aka: Their time ... imo = time is the most precious thing a person haz. Sighs ... crap, Mb and Sir Ivan are #! old guard imo. Like much + respect them both mucho too.

Don't give a feck if they want to dance naked and howl @ the moon in the middle of Crunchville, will cheer them on. They dam well earned it (jmo). Am shutting da fig up now. Plan on listening to some CCR ( Credence Clearwater Rivival ) Lmao ... chances of getting this trainwreck thread stickied are long gone. It iz as it will be ...

d.

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annoyingbeggar · 2013-06-30 22:50:21

To add (maybe to the original post):

If you want bleeding edge it is better to not install from the experimental repo. Instead, change the repo you're pulling from in the Mozilla BPO.

For beta:

# Mozilla backport
deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ wheezy-backports iceweasel-beta

For aurora:

# Mozilla backport
deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ wheezy-backports iceweasel-aurora

The rest of the instructions are the same. Beta tends to be pretty stable but I haven't had good luck with aurora.

ivanovnegro · 2013-06-30 22:59:58

Now we are really hijacking the thread but this makes no sense:

annoyingbeggar wrote:

If you want bleeding edge it is better to not install from the experimental repo.

If you want bleeding edge that is exactly what you want and also it works far better than the Mozilla backports, all referring here to a Sid user's perspective. You will be using the last stable upstream version of Firefox (not beta, not Aurora) aka Iceweasel with the language files included!

Experimental is set to 100 by default! No harm done unless you want to.

Last edited by ivanovnegro (2013-06-30 23:00:46)

pvsage · 2013-06-30 23:06:42

^ Actually, annoyingbeggar's suggestion gives you the option of the latest stable (iceweasel), beta (iceweasel-beta), or alpha (iceweasel-aurora); from what I've read, the Aurora build lags just behind the daily builds. I've been running Aurora for a couple weeks, and haven't noticed any issues...but then, I also haven't noticed any improvements over stable either.

ivanovnegro · 2013-06-30 23:17:12

Actually the post is ok, it is for OP and is correct. The problem is when we begin to mix the branches. Sid works differently but you can use the same repo adjusted for Sid to have Beta/Aurora and btw, Aurora is damn stable and was always for me.

It just shows how confusing the Iceweasel thing is.

annoyingbeggar · 2013-06-30 23:21:37

ivanovnegro wrote:

Actually the post is ok, it is for OP and is correct. The problem is when we begin to mix the branches. Sid works differently but you can use the same repo adjusted for Sid to have Beta/Aurora and btw, Aurora is damn stable and was always for me.
It just shows how confusing the Iceweasel thing is.

I run sid and use both aurora and beta using that option. Experimental lags behind both aurora and beta and is hardly bleeding edge (E.g. Experimental is currently 22, beta is 23). I should say when I have problems with aurora they are usually fixed within a day or two before I have another problem. They are never major.

ivanovnegro · 2013-06-30 23:30:44

^ Damn, so much lagging. That is now interesting and is what I mean by the Iceweasel confusion.

But do not forget, I spoke mostly about Debian's regular Experimental, not from the Debian Mozilla backports if you just want the stable (currently at version 22) release on Sid. More confusion!

Bizzy, you should summarize all the possibilities, how and from where to install and upgrade to all the releases of Iceweasel on Debian and add it for all branches of Debian.

CBizgreat! · 2013-06-30 23:44:06

Drunken offtopic babble edit: 4 being drunken and offtopic *facepalm.

Well except the part about liking Pvsage ... leaving that.

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pidsley · 2013-06-30 23:57:01

Thank you for the how-to bizkit. Installing any version of Iceweasel on any branch of Debian is covered nicely at http://mozilla.debian.net/ except for the special case where your distro (#!, in this case) decides to include Iceweasel in its own repo, and to pin that repo at 1001 -- and you have covered that here. Well done.

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CBizgreat! · 2013-07-01 00:08:15

^Thanks Pidsley ... bless ya man. Voice of reason ...

Errrr ... derp! Was a tad bit drunken and sleep deprived earlier. Sheesh you folks were all on topic ... Though #! ( OOTB) is not a Debian unstable nix distro. Ahhh whatever, back 2 shutting it.

Vll!

More babble edit:
Didn't want to muddy the water by including beta Iceweasel versions. Babble how to is only meant to cover getting latest "release" version of Iceweasel, on Waldorf out of box condition. Anything else ... someone is installing/using a beta version of a web browser. Not that I think it's a big deal so much. Isn't what I was shooting for though.

And finally ... Note 2 self: Stop posting replies when ya drunk off ye arse dood ! FACEPALM*

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KrunchTime · 2013-07-12 19:37:55

pidsley wrote:

Thank you for the how-to bizkit. Installing any version of Iceweasel on any branch of Debian is covered nicely at http://mozilla.debian.net/ except for the special case where your distro (#!, in this case) decides to include Iceweasel in its own repo, and to pin that repo at 1001 -- and you have covered that here. Well done.

A-h-h...thanks Pidsley. That explains why (repo at 1001) I still have Iceweasel 20.0, even though I'm tracking the Backports repo with a pin of 900. I'll make the change right away.

@CBizgreat!...Thanks for another fine how-to. You da man!

07/12/2013-01 edit: What happens when you change the pin priority of the CrunchBang repos from 1001 to 990 as suggested and you have a pin of 900 for the Backports repo? I want to track Backports (all updates installed for distro-upgrade), but I don't want to mess up my CrunchBang goodness.

07/12/2013-02 edit: Another question...if I'm already tracking the Backports repo, do I still need to add the line in my sources.list file as suggested by CBizgreat!?

07/12/2013-03 edit: Okay, I changed my pinning to: CrunchBang (990), Wheezy (500), Backports (900). I also added a separate line in my /etc/apt/sources.list file for the Mozilla repo. Did an aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade, but no new iceweasel to be installed, just 5 libxxx files.

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KrunchTime · 2013-07-13 03:29:26

I assumed that since I had things setup to pull down all updates from the Backports repo, I didn't need to do the apt-get -t install command in CBizgreat!s OP. I used the aptitude version, but breakage would result in pkgs being removed:

The following NEW packages will be installed:
libmozjs22d{a} [22.0-1~bpo70+1] xulrunner-22.0{a} [22.0-1~bpo70+1]
The following packages will be REMOVED:
libmozjs20d{u} [20.0-1] xulrunner-20.0{u} [20.0-1]
The following packages will be upgraded:
iceweasel [20.0-1 -> 22.0-1~bpo70+1]
libnspr4 [2:4.9.2-1 -> 2:4.9.6-1~bpo70+1]
libnspr4:i386 [2:4.9.2-1 -> 2:4.9.6-1~bpo70+1]
3 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 2 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
Need to get 19.7 MB of archives. After unpacking 463 kB will be freed.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
libnspr4-0d:i386 : Depends: libnspr4:i386 (= 2:4.9.2-1) but 2:4.9.6-1~bpo70+1 is to be installed.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

Remove the following packages:
1) ia32-libs
2) ia32-libs-i386:i386
3) libnspr4-0d:i386

CBizgreat! · 2013-07-13 18:11:40

^ Haven't been following this thread ... lol turned into a trainwreck thanks in large part to my own comments.

Yeah ... add the mozilla backport to sources.list. They are two different repo's ... Latest iceweasel + depends will be found in the Mozilla repo. "Tracking" backports ... not so sure about. The backports as far as I understand it are meant for people using Debian stable who want to cherry pick newer apps they want/need. Isn't really meant to be used for an all out upgrade rampage.

Would install anything you want from backports with "sudo apt-get install -t etcetcetc" Unless some repo is set ridiculously high (aka ... 1001 or higher < for whatever reason someone felt that needed.) It'll install the app you want + it's dependencies from the software repo you've selected. Notice you're using aptitude ... don't really know much about it ... Have always used apt, I'm sure it has the same capabilities and equivalent commands to use for "sudo apt-get install -t repoUwant packageUwant".

Once a package is manually installed, should upgrade no problems with "apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade" in future. The vm I tested on did ... Upgraded IW from v 21.0 to 22.0 and depends when it came out and didn't upgrade anything else. That being things I wouldnt've wanted upgraded ... Really no need to jack up the pin-priority for backports far as I understand the topic. I used 200 ... and didn't run into problems. Mentioned ... IW + depends upgraded as desired/expected w no problems.

VLL!

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ivanovnegro · 2013-07-13 22:17:42

I do not recommend to set the backports to anything than 100. That could be the result of your dependency problems. If you do that, you can immediately go and use Testing.

KrunchTime · 2013-07-14 04:29:42

CBizgreat! wrote:

The backports as far as I understand it are meant for people using Debian stable who want to cherry pick newer apps they want/need. Isn't really meant to be used for an all out upgrade rampage.

You are correct. However, the official word regarding Debian Testing and Debian Unstable is that they aren't meant for everyday use either, but people still use them as such. CrunchBang10 Backports was setup to automatically install updates from the Backports repo and I didn't experience any major issues running it. For my so called "stable" environment, I prefer tracking the Backports repo, meaning ALL updates from the repo; no cherry picking here.

CBizgreat! wrote:

Notice you're using aptitude ... don't really know much about it ... Have always used apt, I'm sure it has the same capabilities and equivalent commands to use for "sudo apt-get install -t repoUwant packageUwant".

I've always preferred aptitude over apt-get since my earlier days running Ubuntu. Aptitude seems to handle package issues better that apt-get.

@ivanovnegro: I'm already tracking Unstable on another partition. I want something more stable to fall back on in case of borkage. If tracking Backports (pin of 900) means waiting a little longer to upgrade Iceweasel, so be it. Thanks for your input, though. I value your opinion.

pvsage · 2013-07-14 05:55:28

@CBiz: The main differences 'twixt apt-get and aptitude are:
1. If run without any arguments, aptitude has a fugly ncurses interface.
2. While apt-get will either handle conflict resolution on its own or hold back packages, aptitude will give you a few choices for conflict resolution.

@KrunchTime: I'm right there with ya; running with scissors (I mean, with Backports pinned at 900). Only disappointment I've had so far is the newest kernel, and that's only because it feels the same as the stable kernel to me.

CBizgreat! · 2013-07-14 06:57:00

^ While both like + respect Pvsage ...

Agree w Sir Ivan ... that being, see no point in "tracking" backports. Isn't meant to be used as such ... It's clearly meant to be used to selectively install xyz newer apps + depends. For folks using current Debian stable, not more, not ... less.

This thread is NOT meant as an apt pinning thread @ all. The stated and very clear purpose of this nonsense is to show folks how to upgrade IW to the latest release version via the Mozilla backports that are set aside for the purpose. Yeppers ... following the steps described ... as described are a necessary part of successfully accomplishing that end goal.

There are already apt pin threads or how to's in the #! forums. This isn't one of those though. If you want the latest stable version of IW on latest stable version of #!, then by all means follow the 1,2, 3 step process laid out above. Anything else, you're wanting something else ... Just sayin.

Vll!

PS .... Apologies, ^that babble came off harsher sounding than intended. Sheesh ... it's obviously time for me to lay off the sauce.

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