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#26 2013-07-02 23:02:37

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Re: [SOLVED] Aptitude Full-Upgrade Adds a Number of Gnome Pkgs - Why?

Okay, I exaggerated a bit.  I don't necessarily read through the entire list when there is a large volume of updates.  I do more of a cursory glance.


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#27 2013-07-02 23:17:12

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Re: [SOLVED] Aptitude Full-Upgrade Adds a Number of Gnome Pkgs - Why?

KrunchTime wrote:

Okay, I exaggerated a bit.  I don't necessarily read through the entire list when there is a large volume of updates.  I do more of a cursory glance.

Well, I also do that. But I can`t claim that I`m checking every package when I do a dist-upgrade from one release to another:)


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#28 2013-07-03 01:40:58

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Re: [SOLVED] Aptitude Full-Upgrade Adds a Number of Gnome Pkgs - Why?

lowrider wrote:

Ay as snowpine mentioned tracking sid sometimes is a hard one to play wink
Seems the package gnome-bluetooth nowadays throws in a lot of gnome3 stuff.
Weird i say, but i don't need no bluetooth support and a simple

sudo apt-get purge gnome-bluetooth

followd by

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

solved it for me.
Thx @ew for "betatesting"  tongue

Thanks for the tip. I did a jessie XFCE install this morning (as an upgrade from wheezy) and GNOME showed up in my lightdm menu. This was the issue.


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#29 2013-07-03 06:08:23

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Re: [SOLVED] Aptitude Full-Upgrade Adds a Number of Gnome Pkgs - Why?

Whats even worst that the udev for me after the upgrade took longer to start and fails! Weirdly CB still runs like normal but the sound is gone because udev failed to load. Also i had to pick every upgrade but i had no idea that the Gnome packages where there in the first place. Then upgrade like anyway reboot, udev messing itself up at the first screen and tacking longer to boot and POS GNOME3! mad Just NO. Remove everything Gnome reboot back to the blessed Openbox. Play some music then no sound. I'm the first guy with the silent box because of udev 8.(


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#30 2013-07-03 12:25:25

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Re: [SOLVED] Aptitude Full-Upgrade Adds a Number of Gnome Pkgs - Why?

Papa_5murf wrote:

I'm the first guy with the silent box because of udev 8.(

You are not the only one. Read:

http://www.linuxbbq.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=409

Could apply to your problem.

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#31 2013-07-03 19:07:53

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Re: [SOLVED] Aptitude Full-Upgrade Adds a Number of Gnome Pkgs - Why?

lowrider wrote:

Ay as snowpine mentioned tracking sid sometimes is a hard one to play wink
Seems the package gnome-bluetooth nowadays throws in a lot of gnome3 stuff.
Weird i say, but i don't need no bluetooth support and a simple

sudo apt-get purge gnome-bluetooth

followd by

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

solved it for me.
Thx @ew for "betatesting"  tongue

That didn't work for me.  Here's what was to be removed when I did an aptitude -P purge gnome-bluetooth:

20130703_Purge_gnome_bluetooth_sanitized.jpg

After proceeding with the purge, I rebooted and was met with the following desktop setup:

20130703_Results_of_purging_gnome_bluetooth_s.jpg

Different, but still not what I had before all this mess started.  Performing an aptitude update and then an aptitude full-upgrade didn't change things.


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#32 2013-07-03 19:09:17

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Re: [SOLVED] Aptitude Full-Upgrade Adds a Number of Gnome Pkgs - Why?

DebianJoe wrote:

I had the EXACT same issue when I went to use XFCE with my newest Sid/Exp install that I did today.
apt-get autoremove --purge gnome worked wonders.

That didn't do anything for me.  The results of the command came back basically saying that nothing was removed because gnome wasn't installed, which is true.


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#33 2013-07-03 19:14:05

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Re: [SOLVED] Aptitude Full-Upgrade Adds a Number of Gnome Pkgs - Why?

Any other ideas, guys/gals?  At this point I'm thinking I need to re-install Waldorf.  I'm not happy at all at how this is turning out.  I have no idea what I could have done, if anything, to cause this mess.


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#34 2013-07-03 19:28:47

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Re: [SOLVED] Aptitude Full-Upgrade Adds a Number of Gnome Pkgs - Why?

ivanovnegro wrote:

You are not the only one. Read:

http://www.linuxbbq.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=409

Could apply to your problem.

That solution just sped up the normal udev process without failure and the sound works as also.

Thanks a lot i owe you one!


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#35 2013-07-03 19:42:09

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Re: [SOLVED] Aptitude Full-Upgrade Adds a Number of Gnome Pkgs - Why?

KrunchTime wrote:

Any other ideas, guys/gals?  At this point I'm thinking I need to re-install Waldorf.  I'm not happy at all at how this is turning out.  I have no idea what I could have done, if anything, to cause this mess.

From all that i did just find anything gnome and remove it then aptitude helps after on


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#36 2013-07-04 04:59:26

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Re: [SOLVED] Aptitude Full-Upgrade Adds a Number of Gnome Pkgs - Why?

@Papa_5murf:  I do have some additional gnome packages, but since I'm only able to boot into a Gnome desktop, I'm afraid removing anything else might prevent me from being able to boot period.


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#37 2013-07-04 18:31:12

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Re: [SOLVED] Aptitude Full-Upgrade Adds a Number of Gnome Pkgs - Why?

@Krunch: At this point, I really encourage you to use apt instead of aptitude.

Let's remove all Gnome and then install the packages that were removed also even though you need them.

apt-get purge --autoremove gnome-session gnome-core gdm3 gnome-shell gnome-bluetooth

If you want, post the output here before proceeding something critical.
There is really no need to reinstall your system, the only thing needed is just some package management magic.

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#38 2013-07-05 06:54:49

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Re: [SOLVED] Aptitude Full-Upgrade Adds a Number of Gnome Pkgs - Why?

Thanks, ivanovnegro.  I'll have to try your recommendation later as I'm not currently using the laptop having the issue.


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#39 2013-07-05 20:19:17

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Re: [SOLVED] Aptitude Full-Upgrade Adds a Number of Gnome Pkgs - Why?

ivanovnegro wrote:

@Krunch: At this point, I really encourage you to use apt instead of aptitude.

Let's remove all Gnome and then install the packages that were removed also even though you need them.

apt-get purge --autoremove gnome-session gnome-core gdm3 gnome-shell gnome-bluetooth

If you want, post the output here before proceeding something critical.
There is really no need to reinstall your system, the only thing needed is just some package management magic.

There is no such option --autoremove for apt-get.  So, I first did an apt-get purge followed by an apt-get autoremove.  In both instances,  received the response:  "Package 'xxx' is not installed, so not removed" for all of the packages you recommended to be purged and autoremoved.


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#40 2013-07-05 23:03:20

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Re: [SOLVED] Aptitude Full-Upgrade Adds a Number of Gnome Pkgs - Why?

Okay, I've fixed the issue by somewhat following Papa_5murf's advice.  Using synaptic, I searched on gnome and made a list of most of the pkgs that resulted.  I then went through and flagged those pkgs that were installed (and possibly updated) just prior to the issue beginning.  I then performed an aptitude purge to remove the packages.  I now have my glorious CrunchBang desktop back; good riddance Gnome.

I need to go back through the list of pkgs I purged and possibly perform re-installs, though, because some of the pkgs may have existed with the CrunchBang install.  I'm still contemplating performing a complete re-install because I don't know how much cruft remains from this fiasco.

Thanks for everyone's help.


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