Ideas for Janice

Sector11 · 2014-05-08 02:04:37

samdraz wrote:

, What about firewall?
firewalld might be good modern approach for managing security

You have a firewall built in: iptables

jdonaghy · 2014-05-08 03:32:50

Unia wrote:

Have you heard of Termite?

I hadn't. Now I have.

Thanks. It's rather nice.

Bearded_Blunder · 2014-05-08 13:04:44

What about firewall? Given 99+% of users are behind NAT which acts as a pretty good firewall anyway what do you achieve? If you're purposely exposing a service you'll make a rule for it, either in the router, or router and firewall, thereby exposing it anyway, and if not any attacker can't reach it to exploit any weaknesses because the ports aren't forwarded.

#! isn't windows where people accidentally install random crap that maps ports via UPNP without telling them..

anonymous · 2014-05-08 14:44:21

SpaceFM and udevil developer, IgnorantGuru, has put his projects into hiatus:

https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2014/04 … us-hiatus/

Although his software are pretty stable as-is, it is something to think about if #! were to use them.

Sector11 · 2014-05-08 17:50:43

^ I also liked and used his pcmanfm-mod, the predecessor to spacefm, then spacefm for a while as well ...

And Spacefm is in testing & SID repos: so maybe for Janice and hence #! as well.

spacefm (0.9.4-1) Multi-panel tabbed file manager - GTK2 version
spacefm-common (0.9.4-1) Multi-panel tabbed file manager - common files
spacefm-gtk3 (0.9.4-1) Multi-panel tabbed file manager - GTK3 version
spacefm-hal virtual package provided by spacefm

as well as the original pcmanfm .. that's in stable repos as well

pcmanfm (0.9.10-3) extremely fast and lightweight file manager
pcmanfm-dbg (0.9.10-3) extremely fast and lightweight file manager (debug)

thunar is the heaviest of the three, spacefm is in the middle, and pcmanfm is the lightest.

s11 hooked on thunar though.

Sadin · 2014-05-12 10:04:16

Include the numix themes and icon sets by default would be nice. They are very active and their works is complete. If anything include the icons they really are superb.

Im onboard for lightdm.

jdonaghy · 2014-05-12 16:46:35

Sadin wrote:

Im onboard for lightdm.

Why lightdm over slim? I believe slim is lighter. Not to mention lightdm's offputting scent.

Alad · 2014-05-12 16:52:43

"Light" in times of quad-core CPUs and terabyte storage? And what "scent"?

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Sector11 · 2014-05-12 17:23:20

@ jdonaghy & Alad

I have a sinus problem, scent isn't an issue ... so which is really lighter?

Unia · 2014-05-12 17:36:14

^ Less dependencies does not equal being more lightweight.

jeffreyC · 2014-05-12 17:42:21

anonymous wrote:

SpaceFM and udevil developer, IgnorantGuru, has put his projects into hiatus:
https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2014/04 … us-hiatus/
Although his software are pretty stable as-is, it is something to think about if #! were to use them.

He has stopped working on it because he does not like systemd, it looks like he is moving to BSD.
How this will work out with Debian moving to systemd ?

jeffreyC · 2014-05-12 17:45:24

Alad wrote:

"Light" in times of quad-core CPUs and terabyte storage? And what "scent"?

The stench of the Canonical licensing agreement for developers ?

Sector11 · 2014-05-12 18:00:01

Unia wrote:

^ Less dependencies does not equal being more lightweight.

OH I didn't know that. How does one determine light from heavy?

iMBeCil · 2014-05-12 18:28:21

Sector11 wrote:

Unia wrote:
^ Less dependencies does not equal being more lightweight.
OH I didn't know that. How does one determine light from heavy?

For starters, I would look at RAM footprint, after one is logged in ...

Sector11 · 2014-05-12 18:53:30

iMBeCil wrote:

Sector11 wrote:
Unia wrote:
^ Less dependencies does not equal being more lightweight.
OH I didn't know that. How does one determine light from heavy?
For starters, I would look at RAM footprint, after one is logged in ...

Hmmmm ... I read that lightdm had (has) a memory leak ... I'll chech around (ie: search) ... thanks.

iMBeCil · 2014-05-12 19:01:36

Sector11 wrote:

iMBeCil wrote:
Sector11 wrote:
OH I didn't know that. How does one determine light from heavy?
For starters, I would look at RAM footprint, after one is logged in ...
Hmmmm ... I read that lightdm had (has) a memory leak ... I'll chech around (ie: search) ... thanks.

Well, being the minimalist, I ditched SLIM (too), and now I use .xinitrc to start my PekWM ... And that solved all possible problems with memory leaks as well

iMBeCil · 2014-05-12 19:11:17

(O shi- double post?!? Somebody divided by zero ...)

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Naik · 2014-05-12 21:00:32

^ i did just yesterday and it hurt like heck! ]:D

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jdonaghy · 2014-05-12 21:09:08

iMBeCil wrote:

Sector11 wrote:
iMBeCil wrote:
For starters, I would look at RAM footprint, after one is logged in ...
Hmmmm ... I read that lightdm had (has) a memory leak ... I'll chech around (ie: search) ... thanks.
Well, being the minimalist, I ditched SLIM (too), and now I use .xinitrc to start my PekWM ... And that solved all possible problems with memory leaks as well

I didn't know about a memory leak. Admittedly, the weight difference is probably negligible otherwise. I don't see any particular reason for replacing slim in the distro, though. I've always considered myself rather close to slim. And it does its job well. Certainly don't think it has done anything worthy of our neglect. Personally, I also enjoy the NDM (no-display-manager) approach.

jeffreyC · 2014-05-12 21:26:57

SLiM has more advantages and fewer disadvantages than LightDM.

With SLiM we can have slimlock (which is built in) and nitroslim.

With LightDM we can have the Canonical Licensing Agreement.

WuFu · 2014-05-12 22:37:11

I don't like the Cannonical Licensing Agreement, but I wouldn't care. The only point I see against this change (or any change) is that I think that we need a reason behind every change, such as a bug in SLiM that isn't fixed by the time we start testing or a big feature in LightDM.

About the firewall, it's a nice idea, but iptables fulfills my requirements (for now, at least).

For the rest of the packages, I wouldn't really add or remove anything (Abiword maybe), as I don't use the live system and every time I install CB I add Code::Blocks and a lot of browsers (Chrome, Chromium, Firefox and Opera), but that is something that only a few people would need.

damo · 2014-05-13 06:29:54

I don't know the technical/philosophical differences between slim and lightdm, but I do know that the lightdm gtk-greeter can't be themed (apart from the background image) by the average user. The defaults are ugly imo, and it seems to be only the non-gtk greeters that are themeable (but I doubt many on crunchbang want to run a unity/kde/gnome desktop). The webkit greeter is more amenable to change but you need to be familiar with html/css/javascript, and there are yet more dependencies to drag in.

In contrast, slim does the job, and is easily themeable .

Naik · 2014-05-13 13:06:53

^+1
UPDATE: I just discovered (through this conversation) slimlock and nitroslim which seem to work perfectly together to give me the smoothest log in/of experience ever! if the problems with systemd should remain i`d say: let`s forget about systemd and stay with slim.
referring to posts beneath my own feels so cool

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Alad · 2014-05-13 15:22:46

@damo: Makes sense - though it seems SLiM still has a few issues with systemd.

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samdraz · 2014-05-13 15:34:07

Alad wrote:

@damo: Makes sense - though it seems SLiM still has a few issues with systemd.

hope they fix it soon and integrates properly with plymouth(time delay still exist)

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