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M4he

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Registered: 2013-04-30

Posts: 7

Eliminating GTK3

mynis01

#! Die Hard

From: 127.0.0.1

Registered: 2010-07-02

Posts: 2,005

Re: Eliminating GTK3

I'm not particularly privy to all the details, but I'm guessing you might have to downgrade to some fairly old versions of some of those programs to have a pure gtk2 system. You can always just build the older versions from source. If I was you, instead of downgrading transmission I would just set up rutorrent.

pvsage

Internal Affairs

From: North Carolina

Registered: 2009-10-18

Posts: 13,970

Re: Eliminating GTK3

...let's just say that you'll probably see many other applications moving to gtk3 in Jessie...would be really nice if they had an option to use gtk2 or gtk3 in their preferences, but it seems to me if this were possible it would already have been done...

nore

>2^9

From: Lakeland

Registered: 2009-11-28

Posts: 740

Re: Eliminating GTK3

hhh

Cityspeak

Registered: 2010-08-04

Posts: 3,253

Re: Eliminating GTK3

I ran wheezy with Transmission, Nautilus, File Roller and their dependencies from squeeze put on dpkg hold in order to avoid GTK3 with success, but there's no guarantee that it won't break your system at some point. I now run squeeze on my netbook and plan to use that till it stops receiving security updates one year from the release of wheezy.

mynis01

#! Die Hard

From: 127.0.0.1

Registered: 2010-07-02

Posts: 2,005

Re: Eliminating GTK3

paxmark1

#! Junkie

From: Winnipeg, MB Canada

Registered: 2009-07-08

Posts: 263

Re: Eliminating GTK3

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From: Tucson, Arizona

Registered: 2012-05-19

Posts: 202

Re: Eliminating GTK3

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M4he

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Registered: 2013-04-30

Posts: 7

Re: Eliminating GTK3

Thanks all of you for sharing your thoughts!

I almost forgot about the MATE applications. Thanks for pointing that out! It is the solution I was looking for.
I'm now using MATE's atril and engrampa instead of evince and file-roller.
Additionally I already recompiled GTK2 audacious and will do the same for transmission-gtk.

I'm aware that sticking to GTK2 will not be possible forever.
In the last years I've used almost all major distros and all major DEs & WMs. Ever since GTK3 was introduced, I only had problems with it. Themes wouldn't work correctly when switching versions (3.0 -> 3.2 -> 3.4 -> ...), controls (buttons, sliders etc.) frequently rendered incorrectly and even combined GTK2/GTK3 themes didn't accomplish a 100% match between the two versions because the GTK3 coding is so much different and complex (according to the creators). Not to mention that many of the new GTK3 apps feel a bit crippled in terms of menus and controls.

To be honest, I'm fed up with GTK3 by now and that's why I try to avoid it as much as I can.
I hope by using Waldorf together with the MATE applications I can stay with GTK2 a while longer

Again, thanks for your replies!