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#1 2012-11-07 21:09:19

dura
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[SolvedRemove Mint 11, Install Waldorf in its place, Alongside Windows

Hi guys,

My girlfriend has finally realised that Waldorf is much better than Mint 11, after system freezes for a few months. She uses a HP for her everyday work. Currently the HD has Mint 11 on one partition, and a Managed Windows System on another.

We want to remove Mint 11 and replace it with Waldorf. I understand that the best way to do this is to keep Windows on it, and install Linux second. I have some experience with fiddling with partitions on my raspberry pi, which went well. But I've had some bad experiences on my own x121e when trying to do a similar thing.

Could anyone point me in the right direction as how to do this safely please? Or a good site, recipe? I had a look around but thought its best to ask. The forums, surprisingly, didn't seem to throw up any answers- though I'm sure they are around here somewhere.

Any help really appreciated. As on my machine, Waldorf will become an everyday production system smile

Thanks in advance.

Last edited by dura (2012-11-11 17:23:19)

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#2 2012-11-07 21:18:35

hinto
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From: Cary, NC
Registered: 2010-12-08
Posts: 1,487

Re: [SolvedRemove Mint 11, Install Waldorf in its place, Alongside Windows

What is your current partition table?
I've found that if you have at least
swap
/
/home
then changing distros is easy since you can over write / without touching /home (unless you want to).

I the case of a dual boot, generally I put those 3 partitions as Logical partitions, contained in 1 extended partition.
-Hinto


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#3 2012-11-07 21:19:18

dura
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Re: [SolvedRemove Mint 11, Install Waldorf in its place, Alongside Windows

Sorry, I realise this is really n00bie. I am a n00b though.

Can anyone confirm that I can just use a live usb to do this- at the #! installer I should just be able to choose which partition I want to install to, right? Then sudo update-grub and I should be good to go?

Thanks smile

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#4 2012-11-07 21:20:43

hinto
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Re: [SolvedRemove Mint 11, Install Waldorf in its place, Alongside Windows

yes.
but you should have to sudo update grub.
the install process updates grub for the multi-boot.
-H

Last edited by hinto (2012-11-07 21:23:02)


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#5 2012-11-07 21:23:19

dura
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Re: [SolvedRemove Mint 11, Install Waldorf in its place, Alongside Windows

Thanks hinto. Real simple stuff I know, but I generally get a bit perturbed by this sort of stuff because of being overly confident with it when I first started using Linux. Don't know why I thought it was so complex (self preservation perhaps...)

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#6 2012-11-07 21:23:21

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Re: [SolvedRemove Mint 11, Install Waldorf in its place, Alongside Windows

I usually don't risk it, since I can't afford to lose my windows partition.

First create a windows recovery CD
Boot into windows, and use the partition tool to delete all of the linux partitions.
reboot into the recovery cd, and reset the MBR (depending on your windows, there are several ways to do this)
repartition with the windows disk manager
boot #! and install in the free space.

I think there's a way to point grub around, and just overwrite stuff, but I don't ever take the risk. call me crazy, but I can't afford to lose my skyrim saves!  cool


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#7 2012-11-07 21:26:16

hinto
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From: Cary, NC
Registered: 2010-12-08
Posts: 1,487

Re: [SolvedRemove Mint 11, Install Waldorf in its place, Alongside Windows

same here... I distro-hopped to a non-#! distro and my ext4 partition got marked unallocated, and I lost the data.
so no such thing as being too cautious.

Generally, I layout the partitions as stated above.
I let the installer format/write to / and "use" /home (no format).
I usually rename hinto to hinto_bak and let the installer, etc create my new home (/home/hinto) then copy over relevant stuff from /home/hinto_bak.

-H

Last edited by hinto (2012-11-07 21:26:29)


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#8 2012-11-07 21:32:44

rebornmechanics
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Re: [SolvedRemove Mint 11, Install Waldorf in its place, Alongside Windows

Mercyshipdude wrote:

...call me crazy, but I can't afford to lose my skyrim saves!

That's not crazy. But even if your Windows partition became unbootable you'd still be able to rescue your save files (and any other files for that matter) easily.

dura wrote:

Currently the HD has Mint 11 on one partition

From that I take that there  is no separate /home partition. So before you install #! over Mint, backup any personal data.
I've done this a few times, but always with debian netinstall and expert mode. Technically though any installer should handle this the same way and as hinto said it should work the way you originally planned it.

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#9 2012-11-07 21:34:53

dura
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Re: [SolvedRemove Mint 11, Install Waldorf in its place, Alongside Windows

Thanks guys. Really appreciated. Will have this set up soon hopefully. I had some problems with grub not recognising my mint partition when I installed #!- instead of just updating grub it was the push I needed to switch.

Not so much of a worry with Windows here because it is an mws that can be easily obtained from the institution she works for (...though the computing services department there is completely ignorant and unsupportive to our wonderful gnu/linux).

Thanks again. wink

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#10 2012-11-07 21:37:42

dura
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Re: [SolvedRemove Mint 11, Install Waldorf in its place, Alongside Windows

Thanks rebornmechanics. Feel much more confident with this now.

It's a HP Elitebook 2560p. Hopefully everything will work pretty easily smile

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#11 2012-11-07 21:51:33

el_koraco
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Registered: 2011-07-25
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Re: [SolvedRemove Mint 11, Install Waldorf in its place, Alongside Windows

Don't worry. The debian installer never ever trashes a partition you told it not to touch.

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#12 2012-11-07 21:54:29

hinto
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Registered: 2010-12-08
Posts: 1,487

Re: [SolvedRemove Mint 11, Install Waldorf in its place, Alongside Windows

^The ubuntu one (in PearOS) did.
-H


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#13 2012-11-07 22:17:15

dura
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Re: [SolvedRemove Mint 11, Install Waldorf in its place, Alongside Windows

Cheers again. I love this place (yeah, I know, you can tell). If she would only give me the bloody machine so I can do it right now!

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#14 2012-11-07 22:27:18

el_koraco
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Re: [SolvedRemove Mint 11, Install Waldorf in its place, Alongside Windows

hinto wrote:

^The ubuntu one (in PearOS) did.
-H

You've learned the same lesson as I did - never ever use Ubiquity.

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#15 2012-11-11 17:24:15

dura
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Re: [SolvedRemove Mint 11, Install Waldorf in its place, Alongside Windows

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#16 2012-11-13 05:02:54

hinto
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From: Cary, NC
Registered: 2010-12-08
Posts: 1,487

Re: [SolvedRemove Mint 11, Install Waldorf in its place, Alongside Windows

el_koraco wrote:
hinto wrote:

^The ubuntu one (in PearOS) did.
-H

You've learned the same lesson as I did - never ever use Ubiquity.

Can you install Ubuntu or an Ubuntu related distro without it?
-Hinto


"Sometimes I wish I hadn't taken the red pill" -Me

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#17 2012-11-13 10:21:16

el_koraco
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Re: [SolvedRemove Mint 11, Install Waldorf in its place, Alongside Windows

You can with debootstrap: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot

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#18 2012-11-13 11:17:32

joek
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Re: [SolvedRemove Mint 11, Install Waldorf in its place, Alongside Windows

Hinto - would you want to? tongue

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#19 2012-11-13 11:39:41

hinto
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From: Cary, NC
Registered: 2010-12-08
Posts: 1,487

Re: [SolvedRemove Mint 11, Install Waldorf in its place, Alongside Windows

That is a good question wink I do like to learn from my goofs and installing PearOS on an exsiting scheme seemed to have goofed.  I had backups.
-Hinto


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#20 2012-11-13 11:53:23

el_koraco
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From: inside Ed
Registered: 2011-07-25
Posts: 4,749

Re: [SolvedRemove Mint 11, Install Waldorf in its place, Alongside Windows

But it wasn't your goof, it was one of the installer's many, many bugs. I can only imagine what it will look like now that they've removed the debian installer and are merging LVM and full disk encryption into Ubiquity.

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