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#26 2012-10-02 00:59:20

super.luser
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From: Luserville
Registered: 2012-09-29
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Re: Crunchbang SUB 100 club

For what it's worth, CRUX is kinda like the great grand-pappy of Arch Linux.

"The more you know," y'know.


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#27 2012-10-02 12:51:48

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Re: Crunchbang SUB 100 club

machinebacon wrote:

Running KDE4.2 in a virtualbox in Gnome3:

Ak4pt.png

tongue

That's cheating! smile

Virutal box installation always results in less RAM. (Video driver?)

For example: vanilla 32-bit #! (waldorf 2012-09-27) in virtual box: 87.5 MB.

(Not comparable at all.)


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#28 2012-10-03 16:12:19

chameleon
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Re: Crunchbang SUB 100 club

Stay tuned more to come...
In the meantime if anyone has uninstalled slim without issues then let me know.
If I boot without slim then when I try and reboot from cb-exit I get an error regarding freedesktop / consolekit permissions;

Error org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Manager.NotPrivileged: Not Authorized

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#29 2012-10-03 17:04:57

unfugr
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From: ruhr area, germany
Registered: 2012-09-18
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Re: Crunchbang SUB 100 club

sudo visudo

add this to the bottom:

ALL     ALL=NOPASSWD:/sbin/shutdown

to suspend:

ALL     ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/sbin/pm-suspend

(found that somehere here but can't remember where)

Edit: Found it: http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic … on-broken/

Last edited by unfugr (2012-10-03 17:12:47)

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#30 2012-10-04 03:28:11

chameleon
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Re: Crunchbang SUB 100 club

@unfugr
Thanks I will give this a try soon and let you know...

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#31 2012-10-04 04:47:09

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Re: Crunchbang SUB 100 club

Impressive thread, a great one to follow.  Nice going chameleon and everyone else involved.

I am an Xfce 4.10 user and I can get down to 105 MiB in use without any Conky or Tint2 loading...

I have gutted everything possible, I have not unloaded lm-sensors or hddtemp and I am pretty sure I could get below 100 then.

For Xfce, this is impressive.

Here is a screenie of just my startup of 2 conky's and Tint2 at 123 MiB .. Showing 129 because of the screenshot app.

screenshot-10032012-114132pm.php


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#32 2012-10-04 05:35:33

chameleon
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Re: Crunchbang SUB 100 club

@VastOne
That is impressive for xfce.
What does it consume running a couple of apps (for example my test would be mpd+ncmpcpp).
Is that 32bit or 64bit?
Crunchy+xfce?

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#33 2012-10-04 05:43:37

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Re: Crunchbang SUB 100 club

GMusicBrowser with 60,000 songs loaded brings it to 200 MiB

Terminal + SpaceFm is 165 MiB

Right now with IceWeasel and 2 tabs and 8 Add Ons + Flash it is at 425 MiB

64bit

Debian Sid + Xfce 4.10


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#34 2012-10-04 06:00:04

chameleon
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Re: Crunchbang SUB 100 club

@VastOne
Thanks for the info.
My next step is to strip out slim when I get the time.

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#35 2012-10-04 06:02:51

VastOne
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Re: Crunchbang SUB 100 club

^ I use LightDm as my login Manager...I have never checked how much it uses..

I also use a manual config of /etc/network/interfaces and no network manager, no wifi


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#36 2012-10-04 06:06:46

chameleon
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Re: Crunchbang SUB 100 club

I also use a manual config of /etc/network/interfaces and no network manager, no wifi

me too wink

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#37 2012-10-04 18:48:17

chameleon
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Re: Crunchbang SUB 100 club

@unfugr
Thanks for the input that worked!
Slim purged - not as slim as he thought!

Now RAM usage @ absolute idle 62MB cool cool cool
RAM usage with my little test apps mpd+ncmpcpp running radio stream 'lounge radio' = 82MB! cool cool

2012_10_04_1349376405_1920x1080_scrot.jpg

'free -m'..a little later @ absolute idle

2012_10_04_1349376630_966x346_scrot.jpg


Small ongoing problem with cb-exit and freedesktop / consolekit permissions (working on it)
For the meantime, I have added direct commands for logout,reboot and shutdown to openbox menu...

Last edited by chameleon (2012-10-04 19:00:26)

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#38 2012-10-04 18:53:50

VastOne
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Re: Crunchbang SUB 100 club

Impressive chameleon... cool


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#39 2012-10-04 18:59:52

chameleon
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Posts: 719
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Re: Crunchbang SUB 100 club

@VastOne
Thanks - a work in progress...
Do you think a SUB 50 club might be in order - perhaps a step too far big_smile

I was surprised at just how much RAM 'Slim' used...(comparatively speaking of course)

Cheers.

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#40 2012-10-04 19:19:24

chameleon
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Re: Crunchbang SUB 100 club

Here are the mods I made for tty1 console automatic login to x.
As much for my reference as other Crunchbangers;

sudo nano /etc/inittab (change from run level 2 to run level 5)

# The default runlevel.
id:5: initdefault:

sudo nano ~/.profile (add the following: courtesy http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic … ager-yay/)

if [[ -z $DISPLAY ]] && [[ $(tty) = /dev/tty1 ]]; then
  exec startx
  # Could use xinit instead of startx
  #exec xinit -- /usr/bin/X -nolisten tcp vt7
fi

Very pleased so far...Crunchy on steroids! cool

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#41 2012-10-04 19:21:35

a3e6u9
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Re: Crunchbang SUB 100 club

That's Debian with openbox and it uses 23 MB of RAM after boot. I think I could get it under 20 MB, but I can't be bothered with that. There is no point, really.

Z6waql.jpg


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#42 2012-10-04 19:29:05

chameleon
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Posts: 719
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Re: Crunchbang SUB 100 club

@a3e6u9
Thanks for the info- 23MB is impressive.
I take your point on board...this could get a bit obsessive but...
It is fun just to do a bit of tweaking and learn along the way plus Crunchy SUB 100 just flies cool

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#43 2012-10-04 19:35:30

chameleon
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Posts: 719
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Re: Crunchbang SUB 100 club

Maybe just another 10MB shave Sir lol

Any further Crunchbanger tips most welcome.

For another day...

Last edited by chameleon (2012-10-04 19:38:19)

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#44 2012-10-04 19:40:44

a3e6u9
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Re: Crunchbang SUB 100 club

chameleon wrote:

It is fun just to do a bit of tweaking and learn along the way plus Crunchy SUB 100 just flies cool

Yes, it is fun. smile
It's not only fun, but it's useful, at least on that particular laptop, with 128 MB of RAM.

chameleon wrote:

Maybe just another 10MB shave Sir lol

For another day...

lol
Yes, sir, another day.


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#45 2012-10-07 00:53:13

chameleon
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From: Luxembourg
Registered: 2009-01-13
Posts: 719
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Re: Crunchbang SUB 100 club

A small shave Sir!
Running mingetty instead of getty tty;
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingetty/
http://linux.koolsolutions.com/2009/04/ … sole-mode/

2012_10_07_1349570844_1920x1080_scrot.jpg

80MB running mpd+mcmpcpp cool

and @ idle 76MB:

2012_10_07_1349571258_1920x1080_scrot.jpg

Work continues...

Last edited by chameleon (2012-10-07 00:56:31)

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#46 2012-10-07 02:39:42

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From: Stony Lake, Michigan
Registered: 2012-08-16
Posts: 23

Re: Crunchbang SUB 100 club

Got 64 bit under 100...

96Mb.jpg


I support the candidate that will steal the least from me....

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#47 2012-10-07 07:34:03

wuxmedia
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Registered: 2012-03-09
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Re: Crunchbang SUB 100 club

vanilla 'linuxbbq oyster' running on a PIII 600Mhz E-vectra. 128Mb RAM, with blackbox.
only just under a hundred with mocp and 1000 songs.
tZnM5NQ

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#48 2012-10-07 09:03:44

jezzivi
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Re: Crunchbang SUB 100 club

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#49 2012-10-07 10:46:14

chameleon
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From: Luxembourg
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Posts: 719
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Re: Crunchbang SUB 100 club

@afab4
Well done - any tips welcome.
@wuxmedia
bbq - one of favourites cool
@jezzivi
Again any tips most welcome to add to the thread.

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#50 2012-10-07 18:31:46

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From: New England
Registered: 2011-11-28
Posts: 931

Re: Crunchbang SUB 100 club

For what it's worth, CRUX is kinda like the great grand-pappy of Arch Linux.

I wonder how someone came up with that info ?
Seeing that the Initial Distrowatch release for CRUX was 10/2001 and Arch 3/2002 ... 5 months apart.
Close time line for a "Great Grand pappy"
  Ahh! I see Wikipedia (not the best source) says Arch was Inspired by Crux.. not the same thing.
Just someone giving you Motivation...not code.

Sorry to interupt the Sub 100..
I continue to be at 113mb running Statler with OpenBox from an opening Desktop..There is a possibility to get there.


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