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#26 2012-02-03 17:34:57

AnInkedSoul
#! CrunchBanger
Registered: 2010-06-30
Posts: 232

Re: How do you backup your computers?

I use a script that turns the system into a live iso(hybrid) image

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#27 2012-02-03 17:41:35

pvsage
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From: North Carolina
Registered: 2009-10-18
Posts: 13,970

Re: How do you backup your computers?

^ Share!  Pretty please? smile

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#28 2012-02-07 06:46:01

AnInkedSoul
#! CrunchBanger
Registered: 2010-06-30
Posts: 232

Re: How do you backup your computers?

pvsage wrote:

^ Share!  Pretty please? smile

err okay...

This is a simple script. It is a very basic listing of commands. No error checking. No safety net. No hand holding. No interaction.

The script doesn't mess with your install, it just copies it and creates a iso from that copy so it is reasonably safe.

It does not check for free disk space and you need a lot of it. You need enough to copy the whole system and create a iso from it so I suggest free space be two or three times used space.

The files/folders it excludes is listed in the script and you can add/remove as you see fit. For example. if you do not want your pr0n collection included in the ISO then add it to the excludes file. Another example, if you are running gvfs then you should add the hidden gvfs in your home folder to the excludes file or you will get a (harmless) rsync error when you run the script.  You should definately examine the excludes list and tweak it to your liking.

Be sure you have rsync,syslinux, genisoimage, live-boot, live-boot-initramfs-tools, squashfs-tools installed.

You need to be root (su or sudo) to run this!!!

The script is called dean-clone and you can get it here
https://sourceforge.net/projects/deangn … ean-tools/

***09FEB2012***
I updated the script to be a bit more informative in nature, to mention the packages needing to be installed for it to work properly, and I also put in a check to be sure you are root or have root privys.

Last edited by AnInkedSoul (2012-02-09 21:11:04)

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#29 2012-02-07 08:00:21

VastOne
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From: V-Ger
Registered: 2011-04-26
Posts: 10,165
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Re: How do you backup your computers?

@ AnInkedSoul - I used the script.  It ran fine and created the iso as expected..  Thanks for these!

I did receive these errors but they do not look serious and will be in the exclude file.

rsync: opendir "/.Trash-0" failed: Permission denied (13)
rsync: opendir "/.pulse" failed: Permission denied (13)
rsync: send_files failed to open "/.pulse-cookie": Permission denied (13)
rsync: send_files failed to open "/etc/.pwd.lock": Permission denied (13)
rsync: send_files failed to open "/etc/at.deny": Permission denied (13)
rsync: send_files failed to open "/etc/group-": Permission denied (13)
rsync: send_files failed to open "/etc/gshadow": Permission denied (13)
rsync: send_files failed to open "/etc/gshadow-": Permission denied (13)
rsync: send_files failed to open "/etc/mpdscribble.conf": Permission denied (13)
rsync: send_files failed to open "/etc/mtab.fuselock": Permission denied (13)
rsync: send_files failed to open "/etc/passwd-": Permission denied (13)
rsync: send_files failed to open "/etc/shadow": Permission denied (13)
rsync: send_files failed to open "/etc/shadow-": Permission denied (13)
rsync: send_files failed to open "/etc/sudoers": Permission denied (13)
rsync: send_files failed to open "/etc/sudoers.dpkg-dist": Permission denied (13)
rsync: send_files failed to open "/etc/X11/Xwrapper.config": Permission denied (13)
rsync: send_files failed to open "/etc/apt/trustdb.gpg": Permission denied (13)
rsync: send_files failed to open "/etc/apt/trusted.gpg": Permission denied (13)
rsync: send_files failed to open "/etc/apt/trusted.gpg~": Permission denied (13)
rsync: send_files failed to open "/etc/default/cacerts": Permission denied (13)
rsync: send_files failed to open "/etc/exim4/passwd.client": Permission denied (13)
rsync: opendir "/etc/ssl/private" failed: Permission denied (13)
rsync: opendir "/etc/vpnc" failed: Permission denied (13)
rsync: send_files failed to open "/etc/ppp/chap-secrets": Permission denied (13)
rsync: send_files failed to open "/etc/ppp/pap-secrets": Permission denied (13)
rsync: opendir "/home/.Trash-0" failed: Permission denied (13)
rsync: opendir "/home/lost+found" failed: Permission denied (13)
rsync: send_files failed to open "/etc/security/opasswd": Permission denied (13)
rsync: send_files failed to open "/etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key": Permission denied (13)
rsync: send_files failed to open "/etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key": Permission denied (13)
rsync: send_files failed to open "/etc/sudoers.d/README": Permission denied (13)
rsync: send_files failed to open "/etc/wicd/manager-settings.conf": Permission denied (13)
rsync: send_files failed to open "/etc/wicd/wired-settings.conf": Permission denied (13)
rsync: send_files failed to open "/etc/wicd/wireless-settings.conf": Permission denied (13)
rsync: opendir "/lost+found" failed: Permission denied (13)
rsync: opendir "/root/.cache" failed: Permission denied (13)
rsync: opendir "/root/.config/Terminal" failed: Permission denied (13)
rsync: opendir "/root/.config/Thunar" failed: Permission denied (13)
rsync: opendir "/root/.config/dconf" failed: Permission denied (13)
rsync: opendir "/root/.config/geany" failed: Permission denied (13)
rsync: opendir "/root/.config/gtk-2.0" failed: Permission denied (13)
rsync: opendir "/root/.config/libfm" failed: Permission denied (13)
rsync: readlink_stat("/root/.config/pcmanfm-mod/main") failed: Permission denied (13)
rsync: opendir "/root/.config/pcmanfm" failed: Permission denied (13)
rsync: opendir "/root/.config/spacefm" failed: Permission denied (13)
rsync: opendir "/root/.config/viewnior" failed: Permission denied (13)
rsync: opendir "/root/.dbus" failed: Permission denied (13)
rsync: opendir "/root/.gconf" failed: Permission denied (13)
rsync: opendir "/root/.gconfd" failed: Permission denied (13)
rsync: opendir "/root/.gnome2" failed: Permission denied (13)
rsync: opendir "/root/.gnome2_private" failed: Permission denied (13)
rsync: opendir "/root/.local" failed: Permission denied (13)
rsync: opendir "/root/.synaptic" failed: Permission denied (13)
rsync: opendir "/root/.thumbnails" failed: Permission denied (13)
rsync: send_files failed to open "/root/.bash_history": Permission denied (13)
rsync: send_files failed to open "/root/.gstreamer-0.10/registry.x86_64.bin": Permission denied (13)
^C^C^Crsync error: received SIGINT, SIGTERM, or SIGHUP (code 20) at rsync.c(549) [sender=3.0.9]

I notice that you are pimping Refracta, that is a tool I want to get going next


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#30 2012-02-07 15:24:45

AnInkedSoul
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Registered: 2010-06-30
Posts: 232

Re: How do you backup your computers?

woops....forgot to mention you need to be root when you run it smile

Even if you are root you will probably get some 'permission denied' errors from those hidden files dealing with sockets and gvfs stuff and those are harmless.

Fsmithred is working on the refracta tools (and distro) and is doing a great job of it. I think his code is certainly more useful to more users than my stuff. But I like my simple stuff...

I think I am going to redo the old gtk clone/install tools though...

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#31 2012-02-07 20:14:30

VastOne
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From: V-Ger
Registered: 2011-04-26
Posts: 10,165
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Re: How do you backup your computers?

^ Thanks..

Re ran it as sudo and nary an error.  3.4gig ISO that booted right up

Thanks for the script, I also prefer the simple time tested stuff as well


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#32 2012-02-09 20:40:28

Sector11
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From: SR11 Cockpit
Registered: 2010-05-05
Posts: 15,667
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Re: How do you backup your computers?

@ AnInkedSoul and anyone else that cares to listen.

I have a problem with the script: dean-clone

I put it in ~/bin and it is in my path, I run scripts from there all the time:

  17:31:53 ~
         $ $PATH
bash: /home/sector11/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games: No such file or directory

  17:31:59 ~
         $

But if I run it:

  17:31:59 ~
         $ sudo dean-clone
[sudo] password for sector11: 
sudo: dean-clone: command not found

  17:33:48 ~
         $ 

... it doesn't work! BUT

sudo /home/sector11/bin/dean-clone

Does work.

Any idea why?
Also - why would the resulting ISO be owned by root?

clone_0522_2012Feb09.iso = 3.3GB Owner: Root ???????

My output:

  16:57:04 ~
         $ sudo /home/sector11/bin/dean-clone
[sudo] password for sector11: 

This tool clones the system to create a live image

Copyright 2006,2007,2008,2009,2010,2011,2012 Dean Linkous
deanlinkous@users.sourceforge.net

This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify 
it under the terms of the GNU General Public License version 3 as published by 
the Free Software Foundation.

Please see /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-3 for more info.

This program is distributed WITHOUT any warranty or guarantee of any type
including (but not limited to) express, implied, merchantability or fitness of purpose.
      
Press ENTER to continue

Parallel mksquashfs: Using 1 processor
Creating 4.0 filesystem on /home/sector11/work/iso/live/filesystem.squashfs, block size 131072.
[===============================================================================================================\] 154406/154406 100%
Exportable Squashfs 4.0 filesystem, gzip compressed, data block size 131072
    compressed data, compressed metadata, compressed fragments, compressed xattrs
    duplicates are removed
Filesystem size 3437343.11 Kbytes (3356.78 Mbytes)
    59.27% of uncompressed filesystem size (5798997.36 Kbytes)
Inode table size 1789837 bytes (1747.89 Kbytes)
    28.79% of uncompressed inode table size (6216215 bytes)
Directory table size 1725188 bytes (1684.75 Kbytes)
    42.07% of uncompressed directory table size (4100403 bytes)
Number of duplicate files found 12868
Number of inodes 170554
Number of files 124396
Number of fragments 9772
Number of symbolic links  33339
Number of device nodes 0
Number of fifo nodes 0
Number of socket nodes 0
Number of directories 12819
Number of ids (unique uids + gids) 31
Number of uids 12
    root (0)
    lightdm (109)
    daemon (1)
    clamav (107)
    lp (7)
    sector11 (1000)
    mail (8)
    libuuid (100)
    ntp (101)
    man (6)
    unknown (110)
    Debian-exim (106)
Number of gids 26
    root (0)
    fuse (109)
    daemon (1)
    dip (30)
    adm (4)
    lp (7)
    Debian-exim (115)
    shadow (42)
    sector11 (1000)
    ssl-cert (114)
    src (40)
    tty (5)
    crontab (102)
    mail (8)
    lpadmin (113)
    utmp (43)
    ssh (104)
    games (60)
    messagebus (105)
    utempter (112)
    staff (50)
    libuuid (101)
    clamav (118)
    unknown (121)
    lightdm (120)
    ntp (103)
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Total rockridge attributes bytes: 1181
Total directory bytes: 4096
Path table size(bytes): 38
Max brk space used 1b000
1726908 extents written (3372 MB)
isohybrid: Warning: more than 1024 cylinders: 3373
isohybrid: Not all BIOSes will be able to boot this device

You can find the live image in the /home/sector11/ folder.

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#33 2012-02-09 20:52:15

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Re: How do you backup your computers?

^ Man... Why so many duplicate files and symbolic links?


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#34 2012-02-09 21:06:01

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Re: How do you backup your computers?

Sector11 wrote:

....
I have a problem with the script: dean-clone
...
sudo: dean-clone: command not found
....
sudo /home/sector11/bin/dean-clone
....
Any idea why?

You need to chmod the script 755 if you do not want to supply the path.

I usually chmod the download first and then move things to /usr/local/sbin for root scripts and /usr/local/bin for user scripts.



Also - why would the resulting ISO be owned by root?


The iso is owned by root because root is who created it. The /home/dean-clone folder permissions are set to 777 so anyone can read, write, or delete what is inside. That way it isn't really tied to any single user account or anything.


You can find the live image in the /home/sector11/ folder.

err...it looks like someone has been making some edits to the script smile You do not need to tweak anything but the excludes section (and even that is optional) but if you going to create the iso in your home folder then you probably would want to change ownership of the iso to your username and group.

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#35 2012-02-09 21:12:23

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Re: How do you backup your computers?

VastOne wrote:

^ Man... Why so many duplicate files and symbolic links?

I have absolutely NO IDEA!
How do I go about looking for them?

I don't even know what a sym-link is to tell the truth.
No not true, I know what it is, I've NEVER set one up.  How's that!

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#36 2012-02-09 21:42:33

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Re: How do you backup your computers?

@ AnInkedSoul

I'm the only user here, all my bash scripts (129 of them) are in ~/bin.  Until 'dean-clone' they all work, but none of the others require 'sudo'.  Ad it was/is executable, will do it again:

  18:25:35 ~/bin
         $ sudo chmod 755 /home/sector11/bin/dean-clone
[sudo] password for sector11: 

  18:26:33 ~/bin
         $ sudo dean-clone
sudo: dean-clone: command not found

  18:27:12 ~/bin
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OK, that didn't work.

But if the ISO is "root" would I need to be root to create a LiveCD?

I changed it to "sector11" because after running it the first time I could not find it.


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#37 2012-02-09 22:32:02

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Re: How do you backup your computers?

Sector11 wrote:

Until 'dean-clone' they all work, but none of the others require 'sudo'.  Ad it was/is executable, will do it again:

Oh! Sorry I misread...swore you said /usr/bin....

Sudo has its own path settings. That is one of the reasons I do not use it.


But if the ISO is "root" would I need to be root to create a LiveCD?

nah


I changed it to "sector11" because after running it the first time I could not find it.

by default all the work is done in /home/dean-clone not your home but /home

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#38 2012-02-09 22:33:47

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Re: How do you backup your computers?

@ AnInkedSoul

The changes that Sector11 made were from some bad info I gave him in tests I was running.  A mistake that has been clarified with Sector11

I ran the new scripts again with the method you explained and burned it to a USB.  It is booting but not letting X load, I am assuming because of a nVidia drivers issue.. Will investigate more and figure it out.

Thanks for the script !!


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#39 2012-02-09 22:35:31

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Re: How do you backup your computers?

tar FTW


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#40 2012-02-09 22:44:21

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Re: How do you backup your computers?

@ AnInkedSoul

Oh OK, so I'll make an alias to run it.  Not a problem.
OH!!!  I've never seen or heard of something being put in /home like that ... so It never dawned on me.

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Re: How do you backup your computers?

rstrcogburn wrote:

tar FTW

I've had tar's fail when I needed them most.


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#42 2012-02-09 22:53:10

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Re: How do you backup your computers?

VastOne wrote:

  It is booting but not letting X load, I am assuming because of a nVidia drivers issue.. Will investigate more and figure it out.

Now that is a good question. I don't use nvidia so I have no idea. You could possibly use a boot option maybe? I think fsmithred ran into that and talked about using nomodeset boot option or something.

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#43 2012-02-09 22:54:21

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Re: How do you backup your computers?

I also have a version that does not remove the copy of the filesystem so that when it is run again the only thing to copy is the changes made to the filesystem. But it is just a few edits of the dean-clone for that.

probably better suited for most users is fsmithreds scripts
https://github.com/fsmithred/refracta
his scripts are more informative and do some checking and feedback
he also has gui versions that use zenity

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#44 2012-02-09 22:59:46

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Re: How do you backup your computers?

A live image is convenient for reinstallation but instead you could just squash up the filesystem, and keep that squashed file in a nice safe place. Then to restore you just unsquash that image back to the original partition and be good to go.

I think somewhere I have a dean-squasher script I was working on for just that purpose.

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#45 2012-02-09 23:01:33

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Re: How do you backup your computers?

^ Thats pretty much what I do with fsarchiver.

Once  week I update the images and keeps me current... both / and /home/myusername


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#46 2012-02-09 23:08:32

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Re: How do you backup your computers?

VastOne wrote:

^ Thats pretty much what I do with fsarchiver.

Once  week I update the images and keeps me current... both / and /home/myusername

ooh I like it...sounds similar to what I was working on with dean-squasher
When you update does it just update the file with the changes? In other words, is it incremental or does it have to copy everything all over again? I will definately have to play with that. Thanks!

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#47 2012-02-09 23:10:08

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Re: How do you backup your computers?

I also have gtk versions of dean-clone and dean-install but I need to update them. I am also planning on working on a better gtk installer....although fsmithreds refractainstaller is damn good too.

Ok, I have taken over this thread long enough and need to troll another forum or two smile

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#48 2012-02-09 23:16:21

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Re: How do you backup your computers?

AnInkedSoul wrote:

Sudo has its own path settings.

To elaborate further....

Sudo has a 'secure path' that you can edit via the /etc/sudoers file.

Now I am out!

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#49 2012-02-24 07:30:41

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Re: How do you backup your computers?

I use rsnapshot (http://rsnapshot.org/) to back up my laptop to an external USB drive as part of my morning ritual.  I run rsnapshot sync; rsnapshot daily once I get my old-skool steel-cut oatmeal boiling, and it's done by the time I've finished my coffee and read my newsfeeds.  I'm always careful where I place the external drive so it's not in danger of getting anything spilled on it.  smile  On Sunday morning I do a weekly backup.

I don't manage to do this every single day but rsnapshot is pretty tolerant.  I occasionally rotate the USB drives to an offsite location.  I also have a FitPC Slim that runs rsnapshot every night and backs up my web sites. 

The best piece of backup advice I've ever heard:

It doesn't matter if you back up. It only matters if you can restore.

I try to move my laptop files to a new HD, and move my web sites to a new VPS once a year if I can, just to make sure everything works.

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#50 2012-02-24 11:27:49

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Re: How do you backup your computers?

jefurii wrote:

The best piece of backup advice I've ever heard:

It doesn't matter if you back up. It only matters if you can restore.

Just a home user here, but I found out the truth of what you quoted but using a little backup utility until it came time to 'restore' and found out the 'restore' function of the program didn't work!.  Something called HUbackup and HUrestore.


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