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#1 2011-03-15 17:35:22

donkeyotay
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Registered: 2011-01-28
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Arch/Crunch Bang comparison

Hello Everybody,
For an end user, what are the differences between Arch Bang & #!. I've #! on my main computer & am playing with ArchBang in a Virtual Box with 256 MB RAM. It does seem snappier than #!, but what about stability & long term use. Forum thoughts would be interesting & appreciated.
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#2 2011-03-15 18:16:05

Trygil
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Re: Arch/Crunch Bang comparison

There are some subtle differences and some not-so-subtle differences.

The biggest difference, to me, is the rolling-release of Arch versus non-rolling-release for #!.  To be honest, I've sort of gotten too lazy to deal with the possible breakage of rolling releases.  Although, I find that the breakage issue has a habit of being overstated by some people.  I've never encountered an update that completely borked a system or even one that entailed significant fixes.  Arch is pretty good about announcing issues with their updates.

However, I love pacman and the AUR has saved me lots of time on multiple occasions.

Ultimately, for me, a fresh, default #! requires almost no tweaks to get down to business (especially with the post-install cb-welcome).  You certainly lose some control in that, but I haven't been able to find anything in #! that makes me cringe.

These are my experiences.  The standard response regarding "stability & long term use" will probably go along the lines of "#! is built on Debian which has a long and storied history of stability whereas Arch is rolling and is prone to breakage."

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#3 2011-03-15 18:54:38

Unia
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Re: Arch/Crunch Bang comparison

I think the biggest difference is indeed the rolling release versus solid releases, and thus the risk of breaking stuff versus ultimate stability.

Another big difference is that Arch has the 'do it yourself'-approach, whereas with #! things are mostly done automatically. In other words, Arch requires a little more knowledge than #! does.

For me, the choice would be Arch. I don't want to use the old software in the Debian repo's and Arch isn't that unstable either. Also I quite like the do it yourself approach and the AUR is a huge advantage to me.

In the end, remember it all comes down to personal preference. choose what works best for you.

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#4 2011-03-15 18:55:23

FiniteStateMachine
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Re: Arch/Crunch Bang comparison

The snappiness is due to a vm vs hardware install, IIRC.

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#5 2011-03-16 03:52:51

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#6 2011-03-18 06:33:07

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Re: Arch/Crunch Bang comparison

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#7 2011-03-18 08:17:50

Unia
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Re: Arch/Crunch Bang comparison

If for you there's no other benefit for running Arch than speed, and the speed in both distro's is the same, I'd stick with Crunchbang.

The rest is pretty much explained in that topic

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#8 2011-03-18 11:30:04

axel668
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Re: Arch/Crunch Bang comparison

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#9 2011-03-18 19:26:41

blshvk
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Re: Arch/Crunch Bang comparison

Made my decision, after test-driving both distros I will be sticking to #! for the moment. Eventually I'll probably try to build an arch set-up from scratch though, but unfortunately have little time for this right now. Archbang seemed pretty good but I ran into some trouble when setting it up, whereas #! gives me a fully operational system in 30 minutes.

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#10 2011-03-19 10:15:40

rizzeh
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#11 2011-03-19 11:13:02

Awebb
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Re: Arch/Crunch Bang comparison

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I'm so meta, even this acronym

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#12 2011-03-19 11:19:59

omns
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#13 2011-03-19 15:16:40

bobrossw
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Re: Arch/Crunch Bang comparison

Cool Awebb, -I tried running your script but got a few syntax errors, so I just stayed with #!

Last edited by bobrossw (2011-03-19 15:17:18)

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#14 2011-03-20 00:26:35

blshvk
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#15 2011-03-20 00:39:26

hardran3
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#16 2011-03-20 01:03:35

machu
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Re: Arch/Crunch Bang comparison

^ Neither can I, but until then I'm plenty content to keep playing with Arch in VirtualBox. smile

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#17 2011-03-20 01:12:37

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#18 2011-03-20 03:00:39

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Re: Arch/Crunch Bang comparison

Not a major  problem but if you use the keycombinations  ie alt +left  for back key  in browser,  it is not working  in archbang. So is some key combinations  for some linux  games

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#19 2011-03-20 03:18:33

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#20 2011-03-20 08:25:06

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Re: Arch/Crunch Bang comparison

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I'm so meta, even this acronym

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#21 2011-03-20 11:11:38

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Re: Arch/Crunch Bang comparison

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#22 2011-03-20 22:57:18

pablokal
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#23 2011-03-20 23:10:30

hardran3
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#24 2011-03-20 23:14:16

Nascentes
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Registered: 2011-03-20
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#25 2011-03-26 03:19:19

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Registered: 2009-02-22
Posts: 37

Re: Arch/Crunch Bang comparison

For laptop users-#! has a text installer with the option to encrypt the LVM. ArchBang does not. Keep your data secure...


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