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#1 Re: Off Topic / General Chat » What are you listening to right now ? » 2015-09-29 00:44:00

New Order Music Complete.
Been loving this group half my life now.

#2 Re: Help & Support (Beginners) » Installing latest Blender - approach? » 2015-09-26 22:13:08

There are two models of development among OS's. The monolithic approach that Windows prefers, and the shared libraries approach that Linux uses. Shared libraries are nice because they require less system overhead, are easier to keep updated and secure and take up less disk space. However, you entire Linux system depends on a few key libraries. One notable example of this is gcc, the Gnu c compiler. If a developer chooses to use a version newer than what is available in Debian's repositories, you end up sort of stuck in an unsolvable dependency. One way around this is to use a monolithic approach, which is what the folks above are discussing. Blender acknowledges that problem and is offering stand-alone versions so folks can try out newer versions of Blender and, probably more importantly, gain access to new features that otherwise would drive you to Windows to utilize.

Standalone apps do have their drawbacks in terms of increased disc space, potentially more memory overhead, plus everytime a library gets a security patch, say, each individual app has to be updated to reflect that update as opposed to the typical Linux way, in which one update takes care of it all. 

Another example of the monolithic approach is Windows now offers a free open-source code editor, called MS code editor I believe. I played with it briefly. One of the key points that I noticed about it, is that MS bundled every library they referenced into the app itself, which leads me to believe they either do not understand the Linux architecture yet, are philosophically opposed to it for some strange reason, or are using very new libraries. The key thing is that it basically offered the same functionality as geany with about 4x the overhead.

I am not saying don't use Blender standalone, as that is basically the only way you will get the latest and greatest that Blender has to offer which can be important if you pay attention to Blender's development cycle. What I am saying is that if you require 2.75, the only way to get it in Debian is likely via this method. That, or switch to Arch.

#3 Re: News & Announcements » Server maintenance » 2015-09-26 21:56:21

Nice. That is precisely what I had hoped for. Things are moving forward nicely. Props to the team.  big_smile

#4 Re: Help & Support (Stable) » [solved-ish] (no idea why) kernel parameters - specifically sda=stroke » 2015-09-26 21:52:46

Ok, so if the Jessie netinstall works but the Live ISO doesnt, then it is likely something to do with the Live installer, which as I understand it, is not an exact replica of a Debian netinstall, though it does look similar. Would you be comfortable doing a BunsenLabs netinstall? If you have no issues getting internet connectivity it is really just one command from the console and @johnraff's script takes care of the rest pretty nicely.

#5 Re: News & Announcements » Server maintenance » 2015-09-26 21:47:31

New posts, probably not. However, the knowledge contained within these forums is invaluable and should be archived in some way.

#6 Re: Ideas & Suggestions » Hot Buttons In Top Left Hand Corner » 2015-09-23 18:42:56

Out of curiosity, is it possible to give those icons a bit of tactile feel to them? I am thinking darkening them on an on-click or on-hover event might be useful if it is possible. My only issue with them being there is they don't really respond when clicked and I ended up impatiently clicking them 3-4 times thinking I might have missed the icon.

#7 Re: Help & Support (Stable) » [solved-ish] (no idea why) kernel parameters - specifically sda=stroke » 2015-09-23 18:34:47

How big is the hard drive? Would it be possible to remap your partitions to get around the limit? For instance, separate root, home, swap and possibly data partitions?

#8 Re: Help & Support (Stable) » .tar .zip etc, right click menu help please [Solved] » 2015-09-23 18:28:24

FWIW, xarchiver is merely a front-end for the various cli archiving utilities in Linux. If you expect it to have some functionality that is not there, best bet is to look at what archiving utilities you have installed.

#9 Re: Off Topic / General Chat » internet radio with or without scrobbling - what to listen to? » 2015-09-20 00:37:15

ohnonot wrote:

just came back here to say:
after half a year, i'm always gravitating back to somafm.

Thanks for the reminder. I had forgotten all about this site. Goods new is, their stuff works with streamripper also.

#10 Re: Off Topic / General Chat » Time for a new cellphone at work. What should I go for? » 2015-09-18 22:29:52

Motorola builds good phone. That said, I dropped my g3 and cracked the screen a few months back. I went to buy a replacement and there was not a single android device stocked in the store. I went with Iphone 5C for about $300. It just works and I am quite happy with it as a smart phone. I really only expect it to do phone-like stuff though. Make and receive calls, calendaring, take the occasional pic, light-weight banking, check emails and browse facebook when I am incredibly bored and away from home (about the only time I ever get on FB anymore.) Anything much more in-depth, I want a real computer for. I still find them hecka inconvenient devices for doing any real work on.

#11 Re: Introductions » Hello from Germany » 2015-09-18 12:54:35

sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade will keep BL fresh just as it does for Debian, since @twoion set up the repositories for it.

#12 Development » System Mail Handler in BL? » 2015-09-16 22:57:28

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Is exim4 and mutt setup in BL? I was curious if it was as it wasn't on this install which was originally a netinstall which I have upgraded. Being that it was a netinstall it should have been included in Debian's standard system utilities. I realize it may seem like cruft to some people but if you want cron to send  system mails, etc it needs to be there. At any rate, I thought I would bring it up in case it happened to be an oversight.

#13 Re: Help & Support (Stable) » [SOLVED] GRUB problems with BunsenLabs (rc1) on UEFI system » 2015-09-16 18:34:10

In order to get efi support with Bunsen Labs, use the netinstall on top of Debian Jessie Method. Live Build does not yet include support for EFI partitions and grub64efi, so the Live ISO's have to still use the old bios support.

#15 Re: Off Topic / General Chat » crunchbang fortune package ftw! » 2015-09-15 23:24:01

nore wrote:

Just wait, ohnonot, there are lots of gems lying in post histories of M. Bacon, G. Slob, R. Cogburn, D. Dancer and many many other personalities waiting for scavenging.

Not to mention cbiz. Haven't seen hom around much but his stuff can be priceless.

#16 Re: WM/DE Talk » Plugging Openbox into Desktop Environments » 2015-09-13 19:31:46

I like your approach in a lot of ways. Some of your posts have shifted my preferences to cli tools for certain things. I have been intending to post what a great thing I think BL extending debian alternatives is. It really does let us start with BL as our template and build it the way we want it.

#17 Re: WM/DE Talk » Plugging Openbox into Desktop Environments » 2015-09-13 17:45:34

The #! philosophy was to avoid bloat as much as possible by not using packages with massive dependency chains. BL is attempting this design philosophy while also respecting the user's ability to choose how to set up their environment. What brought me to #! was the fact that it was light-weight yet elegant in its design. I would hope that this philosophy would extend into the future.

That being said, BL should run on nearly any WM/DE setup you can imagine. One thing we don't provide, however, is KDE themes. So to set it up in a KDE environment would generally add to the bloat.

In general, I would say BL occupies a happy middle-ground as I tend to be even more aggressive about my package selection. I despise Gnome 3 client side decorations, and therefor don't use Gnome3 apps at all, if it can be avoided. The one that I do use, networkmanager, I have to go and add special work-arounds to compton's config in order to not have crazy double shadows on it's dialogs. So yeah, I tend to disagree with Gnome's current design philosophy, as I do with Ubuntu and Unity and KDE as well.

I believe in letting people have it their way. I am not a big fan of the big DE's shoving poor UX design down people's throats. These little distro-lets provide a unique experience among the entire OS eco-system in the philosophy of keep it simple and let people choose how to set their desktop environment up. The #!/BL design philosophy has allowed me to set up an environment that fits me and my work flow. To me that is priceless and worth more than all of OSX/Windows/Unity/KDE/Gnome3 combined. I will be happy the day that big companies finally figure this out.

#18 Re: Help & Support (Crunchbang 11 "Waldorf") » [Solved] Backport kernel 3.16, no WebGL in Chrome » 2015-09-13 01:01:17

You might tryi running ATI's proprietary driver and see if that gets your hardware rendering enabled in Chrome. I have notice several issues with the open-source driver for ATI cards, most notably, the fact that it was causing my display to hardlock periodically while watching Netflix, Youtube, etc. Anyway, here's the Debian how-to:
Debian ATI proprietary
At the end, if only running one monitor, be sure to run:

sudo aticonfig --initial

to enable the driver. If using multiple monitors and you are having trouble getting them running, let me know and I will see if I can remember what I did to get it all working.

Edited to fix the aticonfig command.

#19 Re: Off Topic / General Chat » Completely Off Topic Chat » 2015-09-13 00:50:50

I don't know. gparted usually comes up and complains about unreadable partition structure on a USB that I have dd'd an image too. Perhaps it is just that particular drive or something.

#20 Re: Tips, Tricks & Scripts » Don't run all conkys » 2015-09-13 00:43:06

Back when I still drank beer, beer brewed by trappist monks was not what I would call minimalist or ascetic. In fact, that particular beer was one of the best I ever tasted.

#21 Re: Off Topic / General Chat » Completely Off Topic Chat » 2015-09-13 00:41:06

Thing about dd is it overwrites your partition structure, which can be frustrating if you are trying to set persistence up on a USB drive. I know gparted usually doesn't like dd'd USB drives much. I use it frequently but I think partitioning beforehand along with cp would be a better choice in the case of trying to set up a persistence partition.

#22 Re: Help & Support (Crunchbang 11 "Waldorf") » [Solved] Backport kernel 3.16, no WebGL in Chrome » 2015-09-12 00:17:42

I am wondering if it might not be a video driver issue, the more I think about this. The limiting factor should not be the browser, as I can say that WebGL rendering is enabled on my Chrome browser running in the most recent BL. The laptop has ATI graphics. As I was having some issues with the card locking up with the open-source driver provided in Debian repos, I upgraded it to Debian fglrx drivers. I have no idea whether WebGL was enabled prior to the upgrade, however. At any rate, giving us an idea what video card you are running may be a more productive approach.
Post the output of:

lspci | grep VGA

and enclose it in code tags please.

#23 Re: Help & Support (Stable) » Autofill user name in lightdm login/lock screen? » 2015-09-11 17:07:52

Not everyone wants this. A lot of people don't want a username at all coming up. Others would prefer to use accountsservice to populate the entire user list with the added possibility of custom icons per user.

#24 Re: Help & Support (Crunchbang 11 "Waldorf") » [Solved] Backport kernel 3.16, no WebGL in Chrome » 2015-09-11 09:13:12

Chrome not supported in Wheezy
Remember this? If you need Chrome then your only real choice is to upgrade to Jessie. The BunsenLabs RC1 would fit nicely for that. This is completely unrelated to the OpenGL issue but it is worth noting that Chrome is no longer receiving support under Wheezy.

#25 Re: Development » Conky in Bunsen » 2015-09-11 00:11:05

Hey, I just wanted to let you know how cool conky-chooser is S11. Once I figured out where to place stuff and how to name it, my conkies came up in it, easy-peasy. Unlike a lot of you folks, I am pretty set in my ways when it comes to my conkies. I just want all my relevant system stats to be there for me lol. However, porting my two conkies into BL was easy.

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