Enter your search query in the box above ^, or use the forum search tool.

You are not logged in.

#2 Re: Off Topic / General Chat » What phones do #!ers use? » 2015-09-01 03:57:26

Dumb phone  rugged Samsung rugby.  3 y.o.

#3 Re: Help & Support (Other) » echi-orion » 2015-08-31 02:11:10

I used gparted on one usb to fat32 and then dd worked. 

It still puzzles me.  Various machines, deb bunsen and sparky.

#4 Re: Help & Support (Beginners) » Moving a 11 GB file from #! to Galaxy S5 » 2015-08-17 01:12:33

I am not wanting to burst your bubble, but I would suggest instead of trying to transfer an 11GB file, that you use ffmpeg to shrink the file.  Maybe to 480  Learning command line of ffmpeg will aid you for years down the road.  There are also gui's for video manipulation for linux. 

However I do not own a smart phone (old dumb samsung rugby) and I do not have any 11 gb files on my computer.

#5 Re: Development » Sub-alpha BunsenLabs netinstall script » 2015-08-15 22:55:56

ostrolk  You might, just might get it up in testing.  Far be it for us to post from our experience - if you want to try it with sid - go ahead, none of us will stop you.       But      and follow it even further … dc++6.html

Feel free to read all 5 pages of … p?id=39895 … p?id=40073

#6 Re: Development » Replace lightdm with slim » 2015-08-13 03:57:28

Hey, it's 2015  replace lightdm with sddm  - but wait until next rollout when they get the umlauts fixed.  Toward the end of my expeiment using kf5 KDE5 on sparky, that was about all that worked.

#7 Re: Tips, Tricks & Scripts » Conky v1.10 Thread » 2015-08-10 22:58:12

As seen on … ports.html

Conky 1.10.0-1~bpo8+1  is now into Jessie-backports.

edit - sidebar -and a newer gnome-commnder and tmux also.

#8 Help & Support (Other) » echi-orion » 2015-08-08 17:13:35

Replies: 2

Yeah, I would have gotten bl up quicker, but I kept getting a "module echi-orion not found in modules.dep"  The live system would not come up

Yes, I always use dd to install  an iso to a usb key, have to for years following VastOnes howto either here or at VSIDO.  I am staring at 5 different keys.  I played around with lmde mint, two versions of sparky, etc. 

But lately using two different computers , two different sticks  bunsenlabs 64 and also siduction indian summer lxqt - 64 bit   -  all combinations used so far give me an end at  busbybox  (initframs) when trying for the live session. 

Yes I have viewed on Siduction

I suppose I could start doing it the "cat" way.  i.e.

cat /path/to/siduction-*.iso > /dev/USB_raw_device_node
cat /home/username/siduction-11.1-onestepbeyond.iso > /dev/sdf

Another idea I have is to format the usb stick(s) to fat32 to and then try dd again.  Some of these sticks have been dd'd a few times, I know that should not make any difference with dd, but I am out of ideas

BTW, I finally got Bunsen up and running on /dev/sdb1 (/dev/sdb1 is /home).  I definitely will be moving and editing the .conkyrc and the key bindings over to Debian8.1 lxde on /dev/sda1 

peace out

#9 Re: Help & Support (Testing/Unstable) » New gcc5 major change - Sid August » 2015-08-02 19:57:18

Bug #777778 caught my eye  - it shows the progress of the ongoing squashing of one gcc bug and how one problem interconnects with the other. … bug=777778      Many more of these.

Yeah, "apt-get dist-upgrade -d" to download and view what the damage would be, and I have done two "apt-get upgrades".     Next upgrade has more systemd223-2 upgrades,  might wait.     

apt-get -s upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  build-essential cpp cpp-5 g++ gcc gcc-5 gcc-5-base libasan2 libatomic1 libcc1-0 libcilkrts5 libgcc-5-dev libgcc1 libgfortran3 libgomp1 libicu52 libitm1 liblsan0 libmpx0
  libquadmath0 libstdc++6 libtsan0 libubsan0 linux-headers-siduction-amd64 linux-image-siduction-amd64
The following packages will be upgraded:
  abiword abiword-common dmeventd dmsetup libabiword-3.0 libdevmapper-event1.02.1 libdevmapper1.02.1 liblvm2app2.2 liblvm2cmd2.02 libnss-myhostname libpam-systemd libsystemd0  libudev1 systemd systemd-sysv udev


edited  added this August 05  My sid(uction) system is still doing well, but  the next post  is probably good advice.  I have gone to doing "apt update"  (it has colours - wow) and the outcome today is 

121 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.


I stop after doing that.  Doing nothing is probably better. 

As far as testing is concerned, on a totally different machine with Sparkylinux4 (Debian testing) in an old acer atom netbook  with e19 and lxqt no attempts by apt-get distupgrade to remove any programs - so far. 


#10 Re: Help & Support (Beginners) » no space left on device? » 2015-08-01 00:21:55

As above - first step to get space is "apt-get autoclean"

"cd /var" then "ncdu"           #        command gives more information that du about disk usage.

"journalctl --disk-usage"   #  will show size of your systemd logging    If it seems large

read man journalctl with reference to --vacuum-size or --vacuum-time

examples of vacuuming here … stemd-logs


#11 Re: Help & Support (Testing/Unstable) » New gcc5 major change - Sid August » 2015-08-01 00:06:09

Abiword might be due to #778592  but after "apt-get dist-upgrade -d"

The following packages will be REMOVED:
  abiword libabiword-3.0 libboost-date-time1.54.0 libboost-date-time1.55.0 libebook-1.2-14 libebook-1.2-16 libebook-contacts-1.2-0 libebook-contacts-1.2-1 libedata-book-1.2-20
  libedata-book-1.2-25 libphonenumber6 sigil
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  g++-5 libstdc++-5-dev
The following packages have been kept back:
The following packages will be upgraded:
  binutils cpp cpp-5 g++ gcc gcc-5 gcc-5-base libasan2 libatomic1 libcc1-0 libcilkrts5 libgcc-5-dev libgcc1 libgfortran3 libgomp1 libitm1 libjbig2dec0 liblsan0 libmpx0
  libquadmath0 libstdc++6 libtsan0 libubsan0 libwmf0.2-7
24 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 12 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/89.3 MB of archives.
After this operation, 123 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n

No rush, long weekend up here.  And not a lot of smoke from Saskatchewan over here either.

#12 Help & Support (Testing/Unstable) » New gcc5 major change - Sid August » 2015-07-30 21:52:48

Replies: 12

For those in testing, this might be a problem in your future, or maybe not.

For people running sid - unstable - the following link might be good advice.  But then again maybe he is wrong.  I just know that Santa knows a lot more than I know. … icseen#new

relevant thread from Debian developers … 00000.html

peace y'all

#13 Re: Off Topic / General Chat » Debian Sid upgrade intervals » 2015-07-15 01:52:35

init 5 and init 3 transitions isn't working that well for me since about sytemd-215 in siduction and also in a testing installation that had all wayland-weston and no X.

What works for me is "(sudo) systemctl stop lightdm.service" and when done the reverse with   "systemctl start lightdm.service"  I use the sudo version when in graphical mode and it drops me straight to tty1.  I am not sure what would work when using kwin or sddm instead of lightdm   What I read is that systemd "virtualizes" the init stages to imitate sysvinits actions. 

Prior to settling on using stop lighdm.service I tried to do a changeover to systemd syntax. i.e.  "systemctl isolate" and  "systemctl isolate" on both systems.  Network access would still cut out after systemctl isolate at times in both xorg and wayland environments in the same way as when using init 3 and init 5.    This happened in both ceni and connman in both systems.  (systemd-220 after the big jump did not like ceni and wicd and so I reluctantly removed ceni and went to connman and connmanctl)

The stopping of all things xorg is not necessary if you merely apt-get dist-upgrade -d for just the download. 

Smxi - the siduction kernel master let me know he was NOT a fan of smxi and he mentioned  how many  lines of bash shell was involved in smxi.  I had no idea siduction had a ncurses and gtk program called kernel-remover.  It works.  And since I basically only used smxi to remove kernels, which appear oftener in sid, I purged smxi. 

It has been a lot of fun 9 months or so in sid.  I often went to testing maybe 6 months after a new stable  until the next stable emerged, but (so far)  I really like sid.

#14 Re: Help & Support (Beginners) » kernel panic » 2015-07-13 02:55:25

I would advise expanding your options.  If you are starting out in linux - pretty much everyone here would recommend Debian for you, Crunchbang being about 99% Debian.  But you are installing a very ancient version of what was at the time one of the coolest versions of openbox, tint2 for a panel, conky for system messages and a very very beautiful set of key-bindings with installation menus to guide you in what sort of programs to install and at the same time one of the premier forums for help and politeness. 

Times change.

If you are looking for minimal versions of debian that work on less powerful hardware (as #! did, but that was not the only reason people chose it) then I can strongly advise you to install a non-free debian iso of either lxde or xfce.  That should get you up and running and eliminate some hassles.  Doing that also will get you help in the Debian forums and the #debian irc.  Key things are - amd64 or i386 ?    LVM or standard partitions?  Are you dealing with uefi?  If you do not know the answers to these, read up on it.    to get torrents for the live installs

This forum is friendly to people running non Crunchbang systems.  You can still ask questions here after installing Debian stable. 

But re-installation is not how to progress in linux and debian.  Investigation and communication are the tools needed here. 

By the time you are up and running and getting things done with your computer hopefully you can try out the new BunsenLabs - next generation of #!.  But expect more help and an easier install with something Debian Jessie 8.1 version install.

#15 Tips, Tricks & Scripts » Conky v1.10 Thread » 2015-07-13 01:53:22

Replies: 141

Mod edit:  Started new thread for Conky v1.10
Now available in Debian Testing and  SID
The Conky v1.10 Thread Purpose:

  • seek help with conky v1.10 and up, and

  • show your conky (v1.10) and the files that created them

And in accordance with the screenshot thread:

Please continue to use thumbnails (please try to avoid the large thumbnail code) linking to the larger image to help those of us with slow connections. An example of the code needed is below. Most image hosting sites will automatically generate this for you as well. I've been using lately which does a nice job.

=== Original Post ===


Some day down the road will we ever see output from "journalctl -b -0 | grep conky"  EDIT a very poor stab attempt at humour at everything becoming a service in systemd. end edit

I hope not. 

Would it be time for someone to start a new Monster Conky 1.10 thread?   Possibly, but not me.

#16 Help & Support (Other) » login loop » 2015-07-13 01:40:55

Replies: 2

More than a week now I was unable to login to #! via iceweasel 38.1 is in sid and also elinks.  The "successful log in will redirect " would flicker on and off and then no new topics and I would be back on the original  log in page again. 

I discovered a way around.  I log in  and end back up where I started, Ctl-W to kill tab and new tab and going to the #! bookmark - voila - I am logged in. 

Any ideas about this.  No one gave any help on the irc.

#17 Re: Help & Support (Testing/Unstable) » BL Under Sid/Unstable » 2015-07-11 15:09:55

definitely go with openssl 1.02-d1 and systemd-222 should work, real pita for some with systemd-220 awhile back  wicd and ceni also lost wifi capabilities with sysemd-220 but have it back with 221 and 222.

I don't have experience with the other bugs.

#18 Re: Off Topic / General Chat » I Switched from mplayer2 to mpv » 2015-07-11 15:00:30

I went to mpv in sid and never looked back, I tossed everything else out.  There was a burp or two while developers were loading as dependencies  mplayer | mplayer2 | vlc | and not adding mpv | as another of the possibilities needed for a dependency - but that seems to have stopped.

I just have mpv in debian 8.1 lxde-openbox via deb-multimedia and have had no problems.  No vlc, no mplayer2.  ymmv  (Note- no I do not use deb-multimedia in sid machine) 

Note:  mpv is geared towards ffmpeg development, it should work with the libav fork, but maybe some glitches come in from there.  I have ffmpeg in sid(uction) since the change from libav there and will study about making the transition to ffmpeg from libav in 8.1 .

#19 Re: Help & Support (Testing/Unstable) » Issues with new conky (1.10.0-1) » 2015-07-07 02:31:38

I tried starting a thread on this, but I could not log in on iceweasel or elinks.  No problems for me with 1.10 in sid  Mine is simple. … 2#msg46072    NOTE google translate at top of page  (German source)  I mentioned this in irc.

#20 Re: Development » Sub-alpha BunsenLabs netinstall script » 2015-06-30 02:43:33

Hi, I just said goodbye to #! and  installed 8.1 debian lxde and I am going to crunchify.   I am reading up.  aptitude search appearance for me finds no obconf-lxappearance -- however I do get lxappearance-obconf  which was autoinstalled  along with openbox.  (I did have to install obmenu) 

Is there a difference between obconf-lxappearance and lxappearance-obconf?

#21 Help & Support (Testing/Unstable) » latest openbox openbox-qt openbox-qt5 libobrender29 libobrender31 » 2015-06-27 18:28:45

Replies: 1

Anyone here tracking openbox 3.6.0-2 and the qt5 3.4.2 transition?

I let things get deleted and  presently obconf-qt and obconf-qt5 seem to be clashing over libobrender29 versus libobrender31.  I see no damage done to the fucnctioning of openbox, I have had to enable lxqt-panel via cli or dmenu.

edit obconf-qt5 is apparently a transitional package. 

openbox (3.6.0-2) unstable; urgency=medium

  * debian/{rm,inst}:
    + Fix command-with-path-in-maintainer-script lintian warning.
  * Change libobrender ABI from 29 to 31: (Closes: #788520)
    + Add debian/patches/788520_change_libobrender_abi.patch
    + Rename debian/libobrender29.install to debian/libobrender31.install.
    + Add updated symbols file debian/libobrender31.symbols.
  * Change libobt ABI from 2 to 4:
    + Add debian/patches/788520_change_libobt_abi.patch.
    + Rename debian/libobt2.install to debian/libobt4.install.
    + Add updated symbols file debian/libobt4.symbols.
  * debian/control:
    + Update names of binary packages to reflect new so versions.
. . .

#22 Tips, Tricks & Scripts » journalctl --vacuum-size » 2015-06-22 00:35:16

Replies: 2

I had no X  after a dist-upgrade with a lightdm connected update after the reboot from tty1.  I got the lightdm screen but it puked going to X - can't write to /tmp I was pretty sure it was just / (root  var tmp etc) had filled sda1 to 100%.  I risked my gut feelings that it was only the filled sda1 and did apt-get clean when autoclean did not work.  Lucky me. 

I had seen some things prior about how to shrink the logs of systemd and they seemed to be two step processes and I delayed.  But I checked some more.

However I have discovered (sudo) journalctl --vacuum-size=  and put 0.6G to hopefully shrink from 0.944G which was allocated via default for my system. 

sudo journalctl --vacuum-size=0.6G
 . . . 
Vacuuming done, freed 320.0M of archived journals on disk.

Source was from … journalctl

#23 Re: Off Topic / General Chat » boycott systemd » 2015-06-21 05:10:10

I can thing of 3 programs that will start a valid .service for networks in systemd, one of the is nmcli - the command line service  for network-manager.  ceni does not and wicd is probably not a good bet for systemd (I could be wrong).

#24 Re: Tutorials » connman (connmand) for network » 2015-06-16 01:26:55

Intel and debian man pages availed me nothing.  Wikipedia gave me the right web page … t/tree/doc

Might be the best source of info, quite technical however.    ofono is on irc  irc://

Connman does cell phones hrough oFono (and bluez).   Intel makes it out to be that they are the major driver of ofono.  But wikipedia is more balanced and provides better history.  writes in places about cellular capabilities, but never gets precise.

ethernet, using a built-in card, connected via host or client side USB
    WiFi using wpa_supplicant
    Celluar connectivity using oFono
    Bluetooth connectivity using Bluez

The above posted git.kernelorg doc section of connman has some talk about cellular, but again, my short skimming of sections gave me nothing precise

One website for oFono is also  It is pretty poor at getting info from.  Supposedly ofono is over 150.000 lines of c code written by intel.  The links don't link however. 

If you install ofono  there is no man page. The  manpage of ofonod (the daemon which hooks in via dbus probably) is quite sparse. and the info listed redirects you to the crap page.

#25 Tutorials » connman (connmand) for network » 2015-06-13 18:05:15

Replies: 3

I was going to reply to the fine systemd-networkd tutorial above, but decided it was more akin to hijacking.  So I flesh it out a bit.  Not really a tutorial, but a template of investigation  and a plodders experience. 

Yeah,  more than a few leaving ceni after systemd-220 to go the systemd-networkd way.  I always will have a soft spot for anything ncurses based that works like ceni, but there seems to be a slow transition away from ifup.   

Mark ever the contrarian is utilizing connman (connmand).  A eth0 only for me on testing and sid (3 instances) was accomplished with apt-get install connman and a reboot.  For wifi I was flustered about how to get  my wpa's recognized at cli (I could get it via the cmst  (a qt gui for connman))  until I found that while

connmanctl agent on

did not work-- it would work in the connmanctl shell (i.e.

>>agent on 

would work.  I am still looking at the vpn setup.  I just set up vpn via a terminal--usually tty2 or a root terminal with tmux and hide it away.

As it often is Arch wiki has info

For the github to get more info on connman … t/tree/doc

Board footer

Powered by FluxBB

Copyright © 2012 CrunchBang Linux.
Proudly powered by Debian. Hosted by Linode.
Debian is a registered trademark of Software in the Public Interest, Inc.
Server: acrobat

Debian Logo