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#1 Re: Help & Support (Crunchbang 11 "Waldorf") » security breach? / lost internetconnection.. » 2014-06-08 14:11:00

bump, haven't reinstalled, but recently, it works again, if i turn the machine off AND remove the battery! (and remove all plugs. reboot or simple on/off after hours/minuetes aint do anything)

anybody any clue?

#2 Re: Devel: CrunchBang 12 "Janice" » Ideas for Janice » 2014-06-06 15:08:19

Some detailed notes to my suggestions, for I feel asked about. (sry for not quoting, but I think the shorter the effective.. except its unclear.) (@anonymus,Sector11)

* workspaces related:
hmm... I donno the tech behind them, but I had 4 or 6 of them on my ubuntu system, so 2 rows, 3 columns at max. And it was a charm for switching them, for the down row had like say graphical stuff, like inkscape or games or something, and the upper row had the more sophisticated stuff, like email, wiki.. so it was always like switching 'enviorements' on one key stroke.
..I am always like using 2 workspaces for a(ny) task. (so i need another 2 for a second task! but however, I am fine with 4 workspaces (btw the first thing i change after reinstall)). best example is for the use of idle (phyton interactive shell). I write in the editor, and I want the output on another workspace. I avoid using the mouse (which is charming on older thinkpads w/o touchpads), so tint aint the ideal option. besides it eats up screenspace.

* python3... erm, well, yea, it might break something.. but python3 is just.. the noobs should learn nowadays python3 first (imo.. the old print statements look soo confusing to the noobs, like me. but i might miss the point here, what that means for a 'liveCD', so you might as well ignore my state on that.)

* the clipboard, the.. to explain that, I have to say, I am learning vim, which forces me into some weird CnP interactions, with register-interpretations, to learn.. And I miss(ed) Clipboard interactions in my normal workflow before. And it is not so obvious for me to use it on default. ..maybe the <ctr><alt>u shortcut on the conky shortcut to show would be sufficient. ..I actually using it now, but I might as well be here complaining with no solution. sry for that..

* 2 conkys..
I saw it on archbang 'super+something' gives the shortcuts, so they stay out of the way on normal circumstances. ( might as well just delete the Shortcutsection when you learned it, out of conky, but then its gone.. maybe someday i want to add more shortcuts to learn, or i forget about them.. so i actually dont want to delete them..)
Turns out I need conky most of the time tell me, what time and date it is (and tint does that most of the time..). ..the system info thing is great, dont get me wrong, I really like it! But I just dont want it to distract me. so i want that extra stuff, but only when i need it, not, when i turn on my machine. i need 3 conkys actually.. 1 for date, 1 for sysinfo and 1 for shortcuts.. but yea, depends on how you like your system.

* Thunar.. ff, that thing!
Soooo, I am always in Ctrl+2 mode.. there is a column, that says 'Type'. (the one that says the filetype.. ) It seldom has more then 8 characters in it, except for symlinks or whatever.. But it is always way to large.. Just 3-8chr long, would be cool, but no, its like super large, and i have to scroll hmm not nice. ..couldnt figure it.. tried it.. but

#3 Re: Devel: CrunchBang 12 "Janice" » Ideas for Janice » 2014-06-05 14:27:40

I would like to have:

* another MW to chose from per default (xmonad i heard should be a stable one... tongue .i know there are more to chose from wink)
* some easy switch to turn of system beeps
* a sweeter login and screen-saver-lock
* 2 conkys, to switch, one with system-info and the other for daytime and casual infos. so that you can chose to have distraction or not (but its somewhat easily done self made, but it would look and feel awesome on default ! )
* another cursor-theme.. well, at least turn off the blinking on default, ty wink
* a grid of workspaces instead of a row.. i never really need it (i guess i got used to it, as it is what #! provides) but that is sometimes something, that i miss from ubuntu (and that is the only one thing..)
** but i use them excessively i guess. always when i am on a microsoft thing, i can not imagine to life w/o them! i am close to tears, when i see beloved ones with a thousands tabs, browsers, applications in their Taskbar...
** btw tint could have a little hands on. my windows dont expand like i wanted them to. (they stopped on the bar. and no, autohide aint a good solution.. for somtimes they dont resize. however i have a workaround, but its with messing the 'on top' thing and.. not ideal.)
* python3 support per default, not to say that it is charming, but way more charming then python2..
* easier configuration for keymappings, like for <caps> who needs it? (i have it to give me hjkl-movement, super sweet, but i might have broken something during the process.. for im noob, but its awesome xD)
* some replacement for Thunar .. i do not know a really good replacement, but i guess i learn vifm, ranger, mc or alike.. so it is not a big deal. but that Thunar kinda always opens with a tooooooo large column with.. or range? .. however, i have to scroll.. not so nice.
* some wiki per default! i use zim (like every day!), i guess there are tons of other good ones out there.. i think it fits, its fast and easy to learn and to use. ..and it can keep you somewhat organized, the good way! (just a little buggy, but only very little.. i would rather say rough edges instead of buggy, but well, who knows.)
** ..there are other applications of taste of mine, but those are nothing a system needs to have as a operating system on default.. so only the filemanager and the wiki-thing is somewhat i think a system needs as some sort of bare extras to have set (besides the editor, firewall.. you guys know ;P)
* maybe you want to ship with 2 modi, like one to have super minimal and some to have like with your cb-welcome script..
* the clipboard integrated in the background (of a single workspace or such, conky?) (donno, if the clipboard could be managed more intuitively)

..and probably more.. the important stuff for me i bolded.
however, pls keep it simple (no flashlights and eye-candy besides clear looks).

You are doing a great job so far, ty !

#4 Re: CrunchBang Talk » GoBang - A ubuntu LTS based Openbox Distro (damn similar to Crunchbang » 2014-05-09 09:51:06

Yea, I totally fell in love with it the moment I saw it. In fact I put it on one of my partitions. (Had an issue, wrote the dev, got an answer, and solved it.)
Well, well, I am totally sorry, for it has no community atm. (Which is the biggest problem of it imo.)

After I got the money to donate #!, gobang will be the second one! (And I actually should have done that already.. I owe you guys..)

The awesome thing about Gobang is, it does education the obvious way! (most of the time, that would be a con, but here its not) It sets you up giving you CLI and GUI to the max. Or at least it looks like that. All the fuzzy-fancy stuff you can do with GUI-Applications is like 'in your face' when you open the openbox-menue, also the various conky settings and such... but right next to it it is all about CLI-Applications. Needless to say, that CLI (CommandLineInterface) are wayyyyyy more less intuitive/suggestive then GUI things.. so half of the system looks cryptic.

I think it is one of the closest things to #! I know of. Except that #! tries to be not in your way, (which makes it awesome) Gobang on the other hand hits you hard with all the opportunities it provides (but in a non-agressive mono-like awesome way).

And it might be a bit of a stretch, but I say that it targets another audience..
Gobang you would like to have as a/the main operational thing to enhance your live with. (an all rounder, out of the box)
#! you want as a blueprint for any partition you would like to run and modify it as it fits for the tasks you need it to do. (a specific tool. yet, you can make it an all rounder as well. np) But if you don't run into some guys or forum that tell you about this or that application, you would not know, what else you could do with your system.. Gobang does that somewhat different, it hits you so hard with what it provides, it makes you crawling for a yet missing forum(s) or wiki(s).

...and then the underlying system choice.. I am not sure, if it is a bad thing to go with ubuntu, I started off with Ubuntu, too. 32bit Version.. well, it could be worse.. but I would rather see ppl coming from Gobang to #! then coming from plain Ubuntu.. (I like to have multiple systems, I also run a Manjura..)

And I actually only wanted to write 'Well, its worth a look!'. its more lines and yes, Gobang feels a bit clumsy and vacate. But it is soooooooooo worth a look!
(Also I have to say, I rarely use it, for the missing community and I cant tell, if a system is fooling me or not... and I have no toy machine to go wild with it, unfortunately)

#5 Re: Help & Support (Crunchbang 11 "Waldorf") » security breach? / lost internetconnection.. » 2014-05-09 08:43:34

Great link, skimmed it (note the 5 pages it has..), but I consider it not as a density issue. (All of us are on via cable *except the one with the router*, none of us has connection problems, except me.)

I modified the main article, to clarify a bit better.

#6 Re: Help & Support (Crunchbang 11 "Waldorf") » security breach? / lost internetconnection.. » 2014-05-08 20:30:08

uname wrote:

You can manually configure a dynamic ip-address or a static ip-address. Normally you use a dynamic ip-address with DHCP.
Du kannst auch bei nachfragen.

..going there... brb

edit, added the following:
lol, 1037 entries for 'Internetconnection'...

first one to grap on: (short version)
1 "yea, my internet is broken"
2 "well, you have to tell us more"
1 "yea, I use kde apps"
2 "deactivate your VPN and check if you can reach your router" (no hint, how to do that)
1 "yea, doin so via .ovpn files." (no word about how he does that)
2 "'lspci' buddy"
1 "i guess it works" + outputwall
2 "'lspci | grep -i eth' and 'ifconfig'"
1 decidedly-output "i think here is something fishy"
1 "yea, works again, a buddy helped me (from outside the internet) big_smile"

..wanted to share, for I think its a bit amusing.. well those German forums.. probably heading to a English one in a few.. ..already feel a bit bad for not going there at first.. sign.

#7 Re: Help & Support (Crunchbang 11 "Waldorf") » security breach? / lost internetconnection.. » 2014-05-08 20:28:34

chillicampari wrote:

You're connected by cable, but do you have a wireless access point anywhere in the mix? I recently ran into some issues when one of my neighbors added several new devices and their signal strength is enough to interfere with my setup so I had to reconfigure mine to avoid collision.

My machine, Lenovo x200 Thinkpad thing (not as charming as the good old x60 btw), has the advantage of a hardware switch, which I always turn off, if I don't need wireless...
But that wasn't your question.
So yes, one plug on the router goes to a wireless access point before connecting to one of the 3 windows machines.. unfortunately that one is 'in the tigers cave' and not so accessible for me. (But I might be able to unplug-reset the router when it happens again.. or could try some other diplomatic negotiations if suggested.!?)

#8 Re: Help & Support (Crunchbang 11 "Waldorf") » security breach? / lost internetconnection.. » 2014-05-08 20:05:31

uname wrote:

You can test the manual settings in /etc/network/interfaces. If it works without problems the problem is perhaps the network manager.

auto eth0
allow-hotplug eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp

..sry, I don't understand that link so well... there they say

    auto eth0
    iface eth0 inet static

..which is certainly something different then that you typed. ...however, what command should i issue after editing /etc/network/interfaces?
.working *man interfaces* ... has 500 lines.. anything particular you can point me at? .. i am not so well with that.

I mean I could reinstall some software!? But I don't know which would be the right ones. ..really would like to run something like

# network_check 

but there isn't, right?

besides, live stick (usb, gobang) worked, when #! failed. (~30min ago) (but now #! again..) i begin to think its a slack joint of my dockingstation.. but i did that plugging fun w/o d/station, and it didn't help back that other day.

Not sure if I am in trouble, but I am pretty sure something is wrong or broken. (probably going to reinstall #! over the weekend, but I would rather like to know why...)

#9 Re: Help & Support (Crunchbang 11 "Waldorf") » security breach? / lost internetconnection.. » 2014-05-08 14:32:03

awesome, I'll prepare a live disk. (but it wont be the cable, for the other pc work just fine, maybe my network device in the pc.. hmm x200 btw)

also my /etc/network/interfaces says

# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

..should I be concerned?

and.. ..I will work that link.

the d/c might take some time till it occurs again.. (not at home for like 12-18h) ty for the fast replys, #! rocks big_smile

#10 Help & Support (Crunchbang 11 "Waldorf") » security breach? / lost internetconnection.. » 2014-05-08 13:30:39

Replies: 12

Well, sounds weird, but here is how it is:

I lose my internetconnection quite frequently lately. (2-3weeks)
Most of the time at home. At home i am on via cable.
The router is connected to 3 other pc in addition to mine, all on via cable as well. All of them run Windows as far as I know. One of them I have 'access' to, so I know, that it is only me, that gets d/c.
edit: I switched the plugging with the other one.. mine got no connection, the Windows one does. (edit: so its unlikely the plugging or cable)

Newly it happens at university (there with wifi) as well.. so now I am worried again a bit more.

screenshot (edit: here we see the wifi on, but the control blink for wifi was off but the bluetooth one was on.(they (normally) trigger both on the same switch))
(sry for the german language setting... but I hope its a well known basic interface, and as such understood.)

Anyone any idea of what command I could run or I could do to figure, if I got hacked?

edit, addition:
Hardware: a Lenovo x200
setting: (~|~ = wireless, | = cable, * plug)

    |               |                 |                 |
   #!         Windows     Windows        some AP
(issued)            (no issue)                 ~|~
                                                  Windows (no issue)

PS: I am tempted to mark it solved, for it might be a nothing and I am not done with the debian forums yet... but I am worried.

#11 Re: CrunchBang Talk » /home, where to put those partitions? - Multibootsystem - Distrohoppin » 2014-04-28 12:40:39

k, works so far, thanks! I am a bit annoyed, that thunar doesn't find the trash.
(it always feels like im root for deletion is final, but w/o the upsides...)

any fix for that?

i found:
Step 1:open thunar as root
Step 2:go to home/.local/share
Step 3:change permissions on Trash folder (and all folders inside,of course)
(from: arch wiki)

which looks like the right way and i try to ADOPT.. made a /mountpoint/subfolder/.local/share/Trash
set permission for 'users' in an as root opened thunar to read&write.

.but, tadaa, doesn't work.
(thunar still asks me if i want to delete stuff for forever... hmm)

#12 Re: WM/DE Talk » seperate keybind file, openbox » 2014-02-02 17:41:21

thank you, this brings me quite close to it smile
But yes, my concern is about moving and tiling as well, after starting my applications, I want to rearrange them. So its about those in particular:

	<keybind key="W-Right">
	  <action name="GrowToEdgeEast"/>
	<keybind key="W-Left">
	  <action name="GrowToEdgeWest"/>
	<keybind key="W-Down">
	  <action name="GrowToEdgeSouth"/>
	<keybind key="W-Up">
	  <action name="GrowToEdgeNorth"/>
	<keybind key="W-C-Up">
	  <action name="MoveToEdgeNorth"/>
	<keybind key="W-C-Down">
	  <action name="MoveToEdgeSouth"/>
	<keybind key="W-C-Left">
	  <action name="MoveToEdgeWest"/>
	<keybind key="W-C-Right">
	  <action name="MoveToEdgeEast"/>

#13 Re: CrunchBang Talk » /home, where to put those partitions? - Multibootsystem - Distrohoppin » 2014-02-02 13:43:17

damo wrote:

What I do is have /home in the root partition, but symlink /home/user/directories to those in separate data partitions. So on a fresh install I do

rm -r ~/Documents
ln -s  /mnt/data/documents ~/documents

etc etc

Whats the appropriate setting for chmod (I (had to) set it on 775, but I am not sure, if that was a good thing to do) and is the chgrp 'users' good enough or should it be something diffrent?

(I figured, that that putting back /home is just a question, that appears for consolidating manners, but it isn't something for the question 'How to set things up, right?' - which would have the priority in this threat I guess.)

wuxmedia wrote:

Once you're happy with it fstab it.

(Where to edit:mount fstab?) Will I run into any trouble, if I just mount it in /home ? (cuz every distro seems to have that one, but they are mounting their harddrives not alike. (some go /run/media/[usr]/[label-hd]/ or /media/[label-hd]/ or ...whatever there might come))
Also, what would be smart to set as (a general setting for /hom as) options? (again, the distros seem to mount their root w diffrent options, like 'rw,relatime,data=ordered 0 1' or 'errors=remount-ro 0 1' or ...)

#14 WM/DE Talk » seperate keybind file, openbox » 2014-02-01 10:01:13

Replies: 2

Anybody knows, how to load multiple rc.xml files into openbox?

I have this stable keybinds, that I use over and over, that I dont want to always manuall include into the rc file (after (re)installation). And for distrohopping manners I dont want to overwrite the existing.

So the (near) perfect setting would be:
'run openbox with default rc.xml and custom_keys.xml'

similar posts look like: (but dont quite get there)
this or the lost and most promising (but has to edit/remove the whole default <keybinds> section)

...I think I should be able to write a (huge) python programm/script for it (that would mess around w those default rc.xml), but there might be an easier way?!?! (Also feel free to post here, if you need it, too.)

#15 Feedback & Suggestions » #! GRUB on live-session failed/? » 2014-02-01 09:25:20

Replies: 0

I recently broke my GRUB and I thought I can easily fix it, when I launch my '#!-Installation-Device'.
(grub-install or update-grub)
... the command wasn't there ...
... so I installed #! (once more) ...
... and the installer fixed my GRUB (or found all other working systems and set them up properly, eather way, after installation all seems to work again).
Now I wonder, why not or how to only set up GRUB w/o installation..

No worries, #! is fine w/o, but since it does the GRUB thing on installation, then why not from live session?!

I suggest to make that feature more excessable.

#16 Re: CrunchBang Talk » /home, where to put those partitions? - Multibootsystem - Distrohoppin » 2014-01-30 17:19:59

damo wrote:

^ I can't understand a word of that rambling neutral

It is about, that I found a way. And telling about means, that you engouraged me to do so, which I am thankful for.

However, I ended up with the question, if there is also a way, to put a '/home directory from another partition' back into where the root ('/') is? (For I now put those 'new systems' eacht to a partitions, with their /home, but the older ones have their /home on another partition.)
If not or no suggestions could be made, I would like to ask, if it is adviceable to re-run the installation (sub-)script, which created the /home in the first place? (For if new software may not put their configs in the old /home) (edit: and also, how to do so?)

...also I have the slight feeling, that I shoud read the manual... But I'd rather like to ask first about, what trouble I could ran into.

#17 Re: CrunchBang Talk » /home, where to put those partitions? - Multibootsystem - Distrohoppin » 2014-01-30 15:28:22

...erm, ok, I somehow ended up on a partition, where i had no root rights at. (i used gparted, so dont ask how)
...i then somehow sudo mkdir somefolder, now the symblic links... (im pretty lazy, too. but now i ended up w 5 systems)
.. so far so good, stuff i should be able to fix...
BUT, the systems w excluded shared /home dont work, cuz their /home is gone(consolidated)! they are not booting so far... at least not the 'desktop/wm' thing.
searching the internet for moving /home (lol) gave me

$mkdir /mnt/newhome
$sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda5 /mnt/newhome  -- what? i want it to share/included in same partition, not to exclude, hm!?!?!

--- and the following became cryptic ----

$cd /home/
$find . -depth -print0 | cpio --null --sparse -pvd /mnt/newhome/

but leads to the obvious question: do i have to resinstall or can i move the things (/home, .*) w leaving traces for some sort or 'envioremental variables/paths' to not break anything, because some secret service needs it or is just gone? (alternatively, can i trigger the 'pathsetting/-creating/-installing prozedure' to make them a new /home @ the same partition?)
... i would/should probably reinstall anyways for time saving manners, but i would like to know. Because I don't, and that could feel better, indeed...

#18 Re: Introductions » #! = home » 2014-01-29 12:48:23

best introduction ever!
..just searched a keyword for my subject, found your post, couldnt withstand to drop a line.
also, have to say:
welcome !

#19 Re: CrunchBang Talk » /home, where to put those partitions? - Multibootsystem - Distrohoppin » 2014-01-29 12:38:27

this is awesome, ty. big_smile 
*removes post-it's from external hdd, dd the new install media and nodes 'sudo mkdir data;mount /dev/sdX data', 'blkid', 'fstab' and ... omg, i should be back in no time big_smile *cough* .. but it looks like it should work, and exactly .. ill do the damo thing, laters wink

#20 CrunchBang Talk » /home, where to put those partitions? - Multibootsystem - Distrohoppin » 2014-01-28 08:17:47

Replies: 13

Hey peeps, you might have seen this coming..

I want to run a redundant system, so multiple distros. For sakes of working possibilitys I want to share data between those Systems, so first I figured, that 'sharing /home' brings trouble..

Going virtual isn't what I want, cuz it would then depend on a hosting system.. and the main question from first remains. But in addition, I am looking for a solution to go multiple disks. So that I can have a messy set and a working set of partitions at hand. (But w/o having multiple disks at hand, because I am poor.)

so the current (messy setting is something like that):
+sda1 (bootable flag)
+sda2 (extended)
  - sda5
    ~ / (some distro)
  - sda6
    ~ / (some other distro)
  - sda9
    ~ /home (for some distro)
  - sda10
    ~ /home (for some other distro)
    ~ /data (all /homes are directed to here - actually not implemented yet, but thats what the whole idea is about)

well, multiple installations are ... i actually dont like to install another system next to each other, when I know, that the current system is just working fine. And its all not set up yet properly. So I actually came up with another question, so the things I want to know is currently:
* How should I configure to make those Multisystemthing work properly? What do you think is best?
a) include /home in / and symlink the (data)folderconteds (would kill the whole 'profile', nothing to go back, when a new system installed)
b) exclude /home from / but symlink the (data)foldercontends to a 3rd partition, so a 'used profile' can always been set back after reinstall
c) something else
* How can I have 2 disks to boot from but not having 2 physikal disks?

sry for repeating my self, but I thought rephrasing would help to understand..

#21 Re: Help & Support (Crunchbang 11 "Waldorf") » Problems booting and installing » 2014-01-25 10:34:17

strange, i lately mess around w my distros and reinatalled waldorf (64bit version) via usb. (no verions older then 10days)
well it worked.

however, i had a strange output as i did the dd to create that usb (out of my old #!)... so did it in another linux.
(however, i really do like #!)

#22 Re: Help & Support (Crunchbang 11 "Waldorf") » Chrome, I hate you [solved] » 2014-01-23 11:41:08

turns out, that google-chrome runs faster on flash.
i play this flash game... tyrant. smooth animantions, but in google chrome. i really dont like that. (Edit: I am now using google-chrome for my games and iceweasel for the rest (since a year)... i would rather only use one browser instead, but not chrome)

#23 Re: Off Topic / General Chat » multi-boot with multiple Openbox systems: Where to put /home? » 2014-01-23 10:23:40

jpope wrote:

Personally, I used the same /home when I installed Statler on both my Eee and Desktop machines. I just used a different user name for Statler so it still got a seperate user folder within /home. Just made it easy when I wanted to copy fonts, themes, icons over and such.
(Word of warning, be sure to copy and not drag and drop. I've had to fix quite a few symbolic links lately because of this... roll)

Just my 2 cents...

Thats it, sounds like a solution!
I now have installed #!, Ubuntu and Manjaru, cuz i got new fancy thinkpad-x200 -used look-
However, I am aiming to use the one or the other distro for stability reasons (to be redundant), but I want to share stuff between them (most likely datas like documents). So I ran in several troubles with giving them all one /home (which didnt work for Manjaru(OpenBox-Version) at all).

However, I will (try) today install diffrent users in a 'general' /home (=partition) directory!

As Part of the solution I heard, that symbolic links seem to be a solution that comes in mind.
So the final question is, whether which soltuion to stress:
a) for several / (rootpatitions) and a "shared" /home but w diffrent users
or b) do several distros making no seperate /home, but symbolic link your datas to a seperate partition!

I am not sure, wether which would be considered good practice, and also would be better for "reinstalling matters".
in my opinion:
a) sounds nice, if i want to messively distrohopping and wanna go back at some point finding the profile/user i used in the first place.
b) seems more "clean", in terms of: 'you have to symbolic link your stuff anyways' (but I am not sure, if this is eaven true)

(I found: this but it says 'several /home' w/o considering the things I would like to do. However, great Post)

Pls advice, I need guidiance, thanks in advance smile
(I also thought of doing a new topic, but I thought it fits here pretty well -besides, I am using Waldorf)

#24 Re: Help & Support (Crunchbang 11 "Waldorf") » Chrome, I hate you [solved] » 2013-10-24 15:19:51

tyty, ill try that chromium this evening, ok.
But I like to add, that this isnt about a privacy issue. ... but its the flash player that works with chrome and the look and feel w iceweasel (handling, shortcuts etc.), which i prefer.
.. so im working w iceweasel and game in chrome ..

besides, that making it default from within the iceweasel worked (for now). ...i remember doing that once...

i mark it as solved for now (until it breaks again)

thank you for the fast help smile

#25 Re: Help & Support (Crunchbang 11 "Waldorf") » Chrome, I hate you [solved] » 2013-10-24 14:47:18

Thanks for the fast reply smile
Its the debian Package from, havent found it in the default synaptic package manager!

how to add it there?

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