#! was my daily driver at work for a year in 2012 when arch, mint and xubuntu kept failing me.
Getting a great experience out of the box, and keeping it stable and predictable over time did have value for me.
Thank you very much, I learned a ton about getting a light setup together on my own as well, on debian then on arch.
Wish you the best in your future projects.
I suggest to add a step in cb-welcome to set keyboard layout using "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration".
The reason to do this is that #! installer does not offer the variants of keyboard layouts, leaving some users with no apparent way to set their layout system-wide. It could be done this way :
You are currently using the US keyboard layout. Do you want to set another layout as the default system layout?
If yes, run "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" followed by a "setxkbmap xx" with the layout selected. (The first command needs a reboot, setxkbmap applies instantly).
Hi, I’m doing good, and really enjoying #!
1) the fr layout is of no help actually. I use a variant called fr bepo, that has almost no key in common with fr. It's a layout designed using the same method Dvorak used to design his layout, but applied to the French language.
Here you can see the fr and the bepo layout in one image:
(the percentages show how often you are using each row and each hand when typing in French on these 2 layouts, azerty is the one 99.99% of people use).
3) Super+D for d-menu is good, even though I kept it for show desktop. Super+Space was only a suggestion, all I’m saying is that alt+F2 or alt+F3 are hard to reach without leaving the home row on the keyboard.
Just installed waldorf on my main PC, and I used statlers for years on several computers.
I short, I love it, I think it is a great set up, but there are minor improvements that would make it even better, at least for people like me.
1- Keyboard layouts options at install
I use a variant of the fr layout that is very very different from the default fr layout (azerty, close to qwerty).
I cannot select my layout during the install. This means I need to plug a qwerty or azerty labelled keyboard I have somewhere, and after the install, I have to run
sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration && sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
to have my keyboard layout in X and the ttys.
This comes from the debian installer, and I know how to work around that, but it was needlessly frustrating when I didn't know this fix. Ubuntu's installer lets me pick my layout during the install. There are several threads in the forums about people looking for a solution to this very problem.
2- Apt mirrors
During the install, apt repositories are set to the default debian repos.
I can only get 100kB/s from them, when the mirrors close to me give me 1300kB/s.
This means the first upgrade, done during the cb-welcome script was painfully slow, and a first time debian user might not know how to set his/her sources to a closer mirror.
This is fixed in the debian default installer, that lets you pick a mirror based on your locale.
3- Better keyboard shortcuts
I launch apps using dmenu or gmrun. They are both great features of default #!
But, Alt+F2 and Alt+F3 are pretty poor choices because to execute them, you need to place you left hand way out of the home row of the keyboard, and immediately after that you have to type. A keyboard shortcut like Super+Space is much better at this.
Hope these are useful suggestions.
I think at this step you can choose "other" and go "up" to choose your keyboard layout, starting from the continent level.
I know because I tend to install in French but with a us keyboard layout.
Worst case scenario, install with whatever keyboard layout, reboot, log in, and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" to change your keyboard layout. Reboot to apply.
I installed the 64 bit version last night.
The install went smooth, but I noticed a couple of issues :
In obmenu, most of the execute fields of items are empty, even though the menu works fine.
Some of the multimedia keys do not work: volume up and down work fine, but toggle mute, play/pause, previous and next do not.
After a 6 month long Arch break, I’m back on CrunchBang, and boy it feels great to be back!
I originally left to try the new GNOME 3.2 in Arch, and fooled around with it with different DEs and WMs.
I ran it at home and at work, until I kmail decided to perma crash on me.
Anyway I’m back and all is fine and everything, but I just wanted to submit a suggestion for next release.
In the installer, during the step where you pick your keyboard layout, you're only given a subset of the available keyboard layouts offered in Xorg. Unfortunately for me, my layout of choice (a Dvorak based keyboard for French called bepo or fr bepo) is not available in this subset.
It's only a matter of running
sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
after the install, but it's inconvenient to get and plug a qwerty or azerty keyboard during the install just to type the username and the password.
I know the issue comes from Debian's installer, but Ubuntu's installer doesn't have this problem at all, and offers a lot more layouts during the install.
Is it something that can be addressed in next release?
Thanks for the great distribution!
I’ve been a long time Ubuntu and Debian user, but recently I was getting bored of having zero issue on my debian install, so I went adventuring on unknown seas, namely Fedora 15 with GNOME 3.
I really tried to like it, but the numerous regressions in functionality and looks on the GNOME side and the brokenness of Fedora made me cry at night.
So I was about to reinstall good old Debian, but decided to give #! a try while I was at it.
I absolutely love it! It’s snappy, software choices make a lot of sense, and the attention that was paid to customizing openbox and its menus really makes the whole thing shine.
The only thing I missed was some more choices of keyboard layouts during install. I use a Dvorak-ish French layout called "fr bepo" and it’s not available during the install process, while Ubuntu offers it.
Anyway, no big deal, and long life to #!