English system, Swedish keyboard, Spanish location... how?

gosa · 2010-07-25 09:52:46

Hi all!

Just initiated the process of getting the latest Alpha installed onto my netbook. Tranferred the image to usb-stick with Unetbootin and booted from stick choosing text install.

Here is my problem:

Step one is about choosing install language (also setting system language) - here I selected English.
Step two is about selecting location and getting "help setting system locale" - I selected Spain (where I live)
Step three tells me "There's no locale defined for the combination of language and country you have selected."
- I'm presented with a list that is no where near neither Swedish nor Spain.

How do I proceed? Are my wishes to complicated for Statler?

I did try this setting Sweden as location (it's the same time zone) but that presented me with the same result.

oupsemma · 2010-07-25 11:55:37

Got the same when installing Statler; my system is in American English but my keyboard is in French.

Changed /etc/default/keyboard to the following:
XKBMODEL="pc105"
XKBLAYOUT="fr"
XKBVARIANT=""
XKBOPTIONS=""

Yours may be "sv", but perhaps with some variant I'm not aware of.

My /etc/default/locale:
# File generated by update-locale
LANG=en_US
LANGUAGE="en_US:en"

But you perhaps want the system to be in Swedish too?

Last edited by oupsemma (2010-07-25 11:56:50)

gosa · 2010-07-25 12:07:56

oupsemma wrote:

Got the same when installing Statler; my system is in American English but my keyboard is in French.
Changed /etc/default/keyboard to the following:
XKBMODEL="pc105"
XKBLAYOUT="fr"
XKBVARIANT=""
XKBOPTIONS=""
Yours may be "sv", but perhaps with some variant I'm not aware of.
My /etc/default/locale:
# File generated by update-locale
LANG=en_US
LANGUAGE="en_US:en"
But you perhaps want the system to be in Swedish too?

Nope, I'd like to run the system in English, type in Swedish (that one gets even more weird since I have an american "physical" keyboard) and I'd like to stay living in Spain...
big_smile

Reading the above line I realize that I'm one confused dude... My keyboard at work is Spanish, I type in Swedish, work with Norwegian customers. Then I go home to my desktop and type in Swedish & English on my Spanish keyboard again, but whenever I leave home it's typing Swedish & English on an American keyboard - and all that because I want easy access to my dear åäö. Anyone got a good therapist to solve that kind of disorder?

Anyway - thanks Emma, I'll take a look at editing those two files to see where that gets me...

Edit: I just wish the installer would've been a bit more flexible...

Last edited by gosa (2010-07-25 12:15:50)

oupsemma · 2010-07-25 12:29:07

So, basically, for this installation, you want a Spanish keyboard mapping, and a system in English, either Normal English ( British, I mean tongue ) or American English, if I have been following your answer correctly?

(Understand you'd rather stay in warm Spain than in icy Sweden!)

gosa · 2010-07-25 16:46:05

oupsemma wrote:

So, basically, for this installation, you want a Spanish keyboard mapping, and a system in English, either Normal English ( British, I mean ) or American English, if I have been following your answer correctly?
(Understand you'd rather stay in warm Spain than in icy Sweden!)

Nope... I want to write in Swedish (Swedish keymap), on an American (Physical) keyboard, in an English OS (no matter if it's "The Queen's English" or the US one), and I want to live in Spain (you're right about the last part... it is rather cold in Sweden at times).

Anayway - I think I can figure out most of it once I have Statler installed, by editing the files you suggested. I just wished it was something I could controll during the install process. That's where the (my) problem lies. If you choose for example English as a system language you automatically gets limited to a list of "Locales" where English as a language has some kind of "Official" status. If you try something else you just get the "can't find..." as a return.

This is actually easier (Oh, god I'm going to get verbally stoned now lol ) in Windows where System language, keymap, and location are completely independent of each other during OS install. Ok, I admit that I still have some applications asking me if I want to change the application language to my preferred input language (IDM - Internet download manager in Windows constantly asks me if I want to change to Swedish as application language), but that's another issue. I can still get the exact combination I choose during my install of the OS.

--

To go a bit off topic by the way... your remark about "Normal" English reminds me of my first landlord (actually landlady) here in Spain. That chick is really a long story, but what I got reminded about was when we were talking about the Spanish language, and she refused to accept that what they're speaking in Latin America is Spanish, just another "flavor" or whatever you want to call it. Her version gave the appearance that "it sounds similar, it appears to be similar, but it's nowhere close to the true "Castillian" Spanish spoken in Spain". (It probably started developing as a language just out of nowhere, without any kind of influence from Columbus and other travel-happy individuals. - A bit like how we on "the right side of the pond" think about the language they speak "Over there". A huge case of copyright violations... lol

Last edited by gosa (2010-07-25 16:46:48)

oupsemma · 2010-07-25 18:18:01

To go on with your off-topic, I quite understand, as I'm living in France, but only 200m far from the Swiss border, so you can't imagine the rants about "real French" spoken by French natives and "French-Swiss" spoken by French-speaking Swiss inhabitants.
The same goes on for the Swiss German or "Switzerdeutsch" spoken in most part of the country, and that has not a lot in common with the true German language!
But the real English is, of course, the British one! tongue

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English system, Swedish keyboard, Spanish location... how?

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