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Hi there! I have tried cb 10 and I rellay like it (I think I'll switch to that!), but I saw there's no proprietary driver installer but I expected it since it' debian style! So, how to install them? I also noted that there is no xorg.conf file in /etc/X11...
An offtopic question: if I install the alpha version, will it become stable simply executing the usual updates until statler becomes stable? I won't have to make a distro upgrade right?
Thanks in advance!
Last edited by xaber (2010-05-03 16:13:36)
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Hi there xaber,
To install the proprietary linux driver from ati (fglrx), you can go to their site, and navigate to the linux driver section (you select graphics card, then operating system, and model, it should be fairly easy).
Then you download the script they provide on that page. It has some requirements, so make sure you've done an update to all the latest versions of the software you have installed, and check out this page:
http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu … tion_Guide
Essentially, you'll want to install:
sudo apt-get install build-essential cdbs fakeroot dh-make debhelper debconf libstdc++5 dkms libQtGui4and if your using 64bit you'll also need:
sudo apt-get install ia32-libsOnce you've installed everything via those two lines of code, its time to execute ati's installer.
To do that, you use
sudo sh ./name-of-file in the directory the installer is in.
You can tell it to install automatically (not manual, and not form distro specific packages... ill look at the installer again if you need more detail).
It'll tell you its done, so restart, and voila, you should be good to go.
sudo amdcccle if you need to change settings in the catalyst control center.
On the topic of the xorg.conf, it's no longer used by Xorg. I am not sure how they are configured now (mostly automatically), and you won't need to touch it for this install, but if you did make an xorg.conf, it would be used. (I.e. if an xorg.conf exists, it takes precedence over the default option).
And if you install #! Alpha... well, your question is ambiguous, so i'll cover both options.
1. You mean, Stable as in the debian repos. In which case, #! is setup to use 'Squeeze' which will shortly become 'Stable'.
2. You mean Stable as in 'crash free' or no longer alpha (i.e. it will turn into the equivalent of the release).
In that case, i'm sorry to say but that isn't the case. You would need to reinstall the new release of #!.
That said, the Alpha is really just missing some (possible) applications, and I believe corenomial is maintaining a list of changes somewhere, so it is/ will be possible with a bit of work.
Last edited by FiniteStateMachine (2010-05-02 22:50:09)
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Thanks, you have been very clear, but I didn't understand well the alpha thing. Well, what I am trying to say is: now statler is an alpha release... Someday, it wll not be alpha anymore, right? On that day, will I have to reinstall cb again downloading the statler release which is not alpha anymore, or will it be possible for me to update my alpha system to make it exit the alpha status?
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Thanks, you have been very clear, but I didn't understand well the alpha thing. Well, what I am trying to say is: now statler is an alpha release... Someday, it wll not be alpha anymore, right? On that day, will I have to reinstall cb again downloading the statler release which is not alpha anymore, or will it be possible for me to update my alpha system to make it exit the alpha status?
Ok, i can clear that up for you.
It may be possible for you to update. Generally, most would recommend you just download and install the release. However, the difference between the alpha your using now, and the final release will be a few applications and maybe some other little tweaks. I believe corenomial is keeping a list of the changes somewhere, which means when it is released, you could find this list, and install all of the changes.
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When you say it might be possible to update, do you intend that I'll have to do a distro upgrade (like in ubuntu) or that running a simple apt-get upgrade would update and "stabilize" my release?
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When you say it might be possible to update, do you intend that I'll have to do a distro upgrade (like in ubuntu) or that running a simple apt-get upgrade would update and "stabilize" my release?
It is impossible to answer that question definitively at this point in time. 
As FSM said, Corenomial will probably publish a list of the changes, then you can install these changes yourself so your system is identical to the final release. Or maybe this will be impossible for some weird reason, or maybe it will be automated for you... it's really impossible to say. The meaning of "Alpha" is pretty clear to me, anyway... "for testing purposes only... may make your computer go crunch! bang!... may be very different than the final release... etc."
Last edited by snowpine (2010-05-03 13:28:10)
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When you say it might be possible to update, do you intend that I'll have to do a distro upgrade (like in ubuntu) or that running a simple apt-get upgrade would update and "stabilize" my release?
It's impossible to know for certain right now, but I'm not refering to either of those methods.
It would literally be a list stating all the changes (i.e. packages that have been updated or added, or removed too).
You would then use apt-get, and apt-get every package mentioned in the list.
Though, i suppose a script could be made.
Really is kinda early to tell.
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So, by now, don't you think it would be bad to switch to 10, do you?
Only you can answer that question for yourself.
If you're not sure, just experiment with the Live CD for a while or install it in Virtualbox. I have installed #!X on 2 computers, but my other 2 computers are still running the stable #! 9.04. I would not use alpha software as my only operating system on my only computer, but fortunately I am not in that situation.
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I would say that #! 10 is stable enough for primary use, in fact thats what i'm doing now.
Only things bound to change are maybe a few applications and configs.
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And of course the Debian base itself... Squeeze will not be stable until sometime later this year. Statler is an alpha based on an alpha, at this juncture. But we are a brave bunch here. 
Last edited by snowpine (2010-05-03 16:10:20)
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