Tile windows in openbox with pytyler

Book · 2009-09-08 16:26:16

A few days ago I installed this tiling manager and I fell instantly in love...As I didn't found nothing about it on the #cb forums, I wanted to share this with you.

It works great in Openbox, it's fast, light, very easy to setup and configure, has a ton of options ...and after a while cycling through layouts becomes quite addictive

Check out the main page here http://pytyle.com/wiki/Main_Page
A feature list with screenshots http://pytyle.com/wiki/Features
The very detailed configuration page http://pytyle.com/wiki/Configuration
Created by a Arch user, the history is here http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=78666

And a few of my own screenshots :

I'll let you discover the rest...

iggykoopa · 2009-09-08 16:50:58

sorry for the off-topic but what font are you using? I really like it.
once I go back to openbox from netbook-remix I'll take a look at this, thanks for bringing it up.

klanger · 2009-09-08 17:00:21

wow smile

thanks for the link!

Book · 2009-09-08 17:06:42

iggykoopa wrote:

sorry for the off-topic but what font are you using? I really like it.

it's fontin small caps, you can get it here http://www.josbuivenga.demon.nl/fontin.html

iggykoopa · 2009-09-08 18:11:29

thanks, I have a new favorite big_smile kinda reminds me of Diablo

UkDkDe · 2009-09-08 19:27:38

Thanks for this suggestion. Just what I have been looking for.
A better solution than "tile" for me. Uses screen space very effectively

arpinux · 2009-09-10 22:18:47

pytyler: dwm&openbox working together smile
thx for sharing

BurntSushi · 2009-09-10 23:28:05

Hey guys- thanks for the support! This is the developer of PyTyle- I'm open to any comments, suggestions, criticisms, etc. smile

arpinux · 2009-09-10 23:32:23

hi BurntSushi, you've made a very good job on this app smile
talking about comments, criticisms...... nothing to say in fact big_smile
perfect job, text-config is very clear, light and efficient, a #!apps for next release??

BurntSushi · 2009-09-11 00:00:48

arpinux wrote:

hi BurntSushi, you've made a very good job on this app
talking about comments, criticisms...... nothing to say in fact

Thanks! If you think of any, post them here. I've subscribed to the thread so I'll see it.

arpinux wrote:

perfect job, text-config is very clear, light and efficient, a #!apps for next release??

Sadly, I'm woefully ignorant of #!. I actually hadn't heard of it until I started using Arch (I guess we can sometimes end up in the same places). Is there anyway you could shove me in the right direction for perhaps a write-up/documentation on how to add to #!apps?

Thanks!

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arpinux · 2009-09-11 00:19:42

^ actually, the last line of my post was for corenominal ( #! architect ) smile . he likes include external source to suit his needed ( or ours), so if some #!ers use your soft, he'll probably add it in the next #! release... maybe a .deb package will help so he could add it in #! repositories. i've never made a .deb but someone (you or a #!er) could build it.
talking about an how to, i think your config file is clear enough 'cause #! isn't a "gui distro" (conky, dmenu, tint2, cli-apps by default in openbox menu... ), we like to put hands into config files, as you could see if you turn around here wink
anyway, thanks for your interest , and don't hesitate to try CRUNCHBANG LINUX, the best Linux distro big_smile

BurntSushi · 2009-09-11 02:17:25

arpinux wrote:

^ actually, the last line of my post was for corenominal ( #! architect ) . he likes include external source to suit his needed ( or ours), so if some #!ers use your soft, he'll probably add it in the next #! release... maybe a .deb package will help so he could add it in #! repositories. i've never made a .deb but someone (you or a #!er) could build it.

Gotya- thought you were referring to a package repo or something.

arpinux wrote:

talking about an how to, i think your config file is clear enough 'cause #! isn't a "gui distro" (conky, dmenu, tint2, cli-apps by default in openbox menu... ), we like to put hands into config files, as you could see if you turn around here
anyway, thanks for your interest , and don't hesitate to try CRUNCHBANG LINUX, the best Linux distro

Arch doesn't even come with X wink

I'll be sure to try out #! when I get some free time. I actually might look into recommending it to friends with older PC's that don't want raw Linux but also don't want the bloat of a normal Ubuntu install.

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rsw · 2009-09-21 20:12:41

I have installed this "pytyler," and I say that it is Good.

It is not an adequate replacement for dwm/awesome/etc due to the amount of time it takes windows to adjust. It is much slower than a true tiling wm. It's great for if you're just using openbox regular, and every now-and-then you'll be in the middle of something and thinking "damn, wish I was running a tiling WM instead right now." I often find myself in such a position and so will probably use pytyler quite a lot. Thanks for posting it...

Raffles10 · 2009-09-21 20:53:13

Much slower than a true tiling WM ? How many milliseconds slower ? It's like lightning here.

rsw · 2009-09-21 21:12:17

Raffles10 wrote:

Much slower than a true tiling WM ? How many milliseconds slower ? It's like lightning here.

I don't think it's pytyler's slowness so much as openbox's at resizing/repositioning the windows. I just switched to awesomewm and cycled some windows around to make sure I wasn't delusional, and there is a noticeable difference. I'm not sure if I care to break out a stopwatch and time it but it's there. I'm running a 2.4 ghz p4. Perhaps results vary.

BurntSushi · 2009-09-24 03:37:48

rsw,

PyTyle will certainly be slower than a normal tiling window manager (by virtue of there being more layers). However, it honest-to-goodness shouldn't be too noticeable (in Openbox). I can't really think of why you're seeing such a lag, but is it possible there are any other programs running that are managing windows? Maybe devilspie?

If you're running PyTyle on a compositor (like KWin or Compiz) with desktop effects enabled, then you'll definitely see some noticeable lag.

yt · 2010-01-20 20:49:10

I really enjoy pytyle - thank you for that! But I have some problems with pekwm and pytyle using the last version (0.7.4). pytyle has difficulties to skip the window decoration, so that I don't see the last line of a terminator-session when several instances of terminator are in one row.

Is that a problem of my configuration and how can I change that?

jackbang · 2010-01-21 09:44:45

This looks excellent, I can't wait to try, except I'm stuck on a mac at the moment.
Just one question, is it two-way - is the layout of a tiled workspace fixed, or can I manually resize windows, and pytile re-sizes everything to fit? I really like the idea of pekwm's "maximize to fit" or whatever it's called, where you can maximize a window to fill all the space until it bumps into a neighbour.

yt · 2010-01-25 11:16:56

After some investigations I know now that isn't a problem of my configuration because unter openbox it is runnig as it should. Any advices for using pytyle with pekwm? Some users out there with similar problems?

Criminal · 2010-04-14 19:47:43

Hi!
I really like pytyle, and use it a lot. great work!
But when using blender it comes that pytyle steals the hotkeys i want/need to use in blender. E.g. I need Alt+h, but when pytyle is running in background (even in untile-mode) I can't use the combinations.
First I started to reconfigure pytyle, but I'm running out of keys that I can use for tiling. So my next step was to start and kill pytyle through openbox and the rc file. So Alt+a should run pytyle and tile the desktop, Alt+u untile and kill pytyler. Running pytyle is no problem, but how can I tell it to tile only the active desktop from start and how to untile before I kill it? When i just kill it the windows remain tiled, so reset seems to be needed here.
I tried different things like "pytyle -tile.default" but no success until now. that's what i got in the rc file until now:

    <!-- Start Pytyler + kill Pytyler -->
    <keybind key="A-a">
      <action name="Execute">
        <command>pytyle -tyle.default</command>
      </action>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="A-u">
      <action name="Execute">
        <command>killall pytyle</command>
      </action>
    </keybind>

In short words: how can I use the commands from the pytylerc file in command line?
Any suggestions?

Last edited by Criminal (2010-04-15 08:36:35)

Root-Minuz · 2011-07-25 23:06:49

I know the original post is a bit dated but thanks!!! this is what I was looking for actually
and for anyone that might find this interesting..... pytyle2 works very well with GNOME3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quite interesting result actually tongue

Last edited by Root-Minuz (2011-07-25 23:07:55)

crunchy · 2011-07-26 02:09:23

it does???!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

that would solve ALL of my problems with gnome3. (I've been trying it out, I don't really like it that much so far.

I've used pytyle in openbox in the past and love it a lot!

Awebb · 2011-07-26 06:24:29

crunchy wrote:

that would solve ALL of my problems with gnome3.

So pytyle2 automatically uninstalls Gnome3? That's great news.

Kuno · 2011-07-26 09:15:06

Awebb wrote:

So pytyle2 automatically uninstalls Gnome3? That's great news.

cool

Gala · 2011-07-26 12:07:02

Pytyle2 is great but... it uses a LOT of memory. I don't remember exactly but it was really too much for me.
And Pytyle The First is just what I need. So that's fine !

Last edited by Gala (2011-07-26 12:07:33)

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