Wifi -HotSpot - AdHoc

havarka · 2014-08-08 09:06:39

Hi guys, I just installed this Linux yesterday its really crazy good and quick, but I do need to send my internet which I am getting through wire to send it further by wifi in order that my mom`s nexus can share it.

Do you have an idea how it can work? So how do I create Wireless Signal?

In Ubuntu 14.04 LTS I just pressed Create a Hot-Spot and everything worked fine, but since here is not GNOME and not so much GUI, I am lost.

Thank you in advance for quick response

zeev
slovakia

Last edited by havarka (2014-08-08 09:10:09)

ohnonot · 2014-08-08 17:53:16

it should be possible.
there seems to be ready-made solutions for ubuntu and android, but not for debian-based systems.
searching the web, i could not find one clear and simple solution.
the names "hostapd", "hostap-utils", "freeradius", "chillispot" keep popping up.
also make sure your hardware (and driver) supports what you're planning to do.

havarka · 2014-08-08 19:00:23

i tried to make the whole day in debian, with help from irc, its really hard we didnt succeed so going back to lubuntu cause without this ic cannot exist, and then when new stable kernel comes ill decide if crunchbang or pure debian, see you in the meantime

ohnonot · 2014-08-08 19:15:32

it works in lubuntu out of the box? wow.
debian, what's wrong with you?

raksasas · 2014-08-08 21:31:56

ohnonot wrote:

it should be possible.
there seems to be ready-made solutions for ubuntu and android, but not for debian-based systems.

Actually, this is not entirely true statement. Debian (Gnome) has this function and it is done just like he describes by clicking "create hot-spot". As far as "Debian-based distro" I have not seen it or tried that many of them other distro's.

-- Starting to get a little off topic here --
Yes, this is possible. I will state I never got it to work but then again I doing something a little bit different. I could see the wireless broadcasting but could never get anything to connect to it.... But again I was trying to do something different. I will just call it "Project Standalone" or Project laptop Piratebox"

Similar to the following but using a laptop - http://torrentfreak.com/piratebox-takes … ng-120311/

Goal: Problem: Ohh crap! The Internet/Network went down! We need something temp and stat!
Laptop runs as DHCP server (toggle on/off)
drop a switch down
Turn on the Wifi
Wired computers can connect to the switch
Wireless computers would connect to the laptops wireless.
They would be able to pull up the website/file shares hosted by the laptop.

Ran out of time on project to work out the issues. Project ended with: Laptop + off shelf wireless router.

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ohnonot · 2014-08-08 22:30:09

raksasas wrote:

Debian (Gnome) has this function and it is done just like he describes by clicking "create hot-spot".

ok, so it's a gnome/unity thing?
still surprising that lubuntu should have it, too.
maybe it's worth trying to use a ubuntu ppa and try to pull the app(s) in question over?

Head_on_a_Stick · 2014-08-08 22:48:00

ohnonot wrote:

maybe it's worth trying to use a ubuntu ppa and try to pull the app(s) in question over?

yikes

havarka · 2014-08-10 05:15:48

so i did this in xubuntu and now is working, will it work also on crunchbang which is currently based on debian and not ubuntu?

http://askubuntu.com/questions/180733/h … 844#349844

btw: i do need specifically WAP

ohnonot · 2014-08-10 10:46:34

ok ok, i'm sorry.

big disclaimer:
debian and ubuntu are not compatible.
do not use ubuntu ppa's on debian!

however, sometimes it still works.
so, instead of creating a whole wireless server from scratch, you might want to try the ubuntu ppa.

but be aware that you might break your system!

havarka · 2014-08-10 14:55:03

An that PPA which is needed doesnt`t exist under debian?

I was afraid of that as well as aware, but I gonna give it a try !

Or another idea is there a EASY way to make ubuntu look like exactly like cranchbang?

Head_on_a_Stick · 2014-08-10 15:09:10

As @raksasas points out in post #5, Debian Gnome supports the one-click setup also --- would it not be wiser to download the Gnome-desktop metapackage & see if it works?

havarks wrote:

is there a EASY way to make ubuntu look like exactly like cranchbang?

You can install Openbox, SLiM, et al in *buntu & then copy over all the configs I suppose. I remember having (eventually terminal) problems with Xubuntu when I tried changing around the environment too much...

havarka · 2014-08-10 15:18:17

raksasas, what he mentioned about creating it through network-manager that really never worked by me

what is that?

quote wrote:

et al

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Head_on_a_Stick · 2014-08-10 15:29:11

^ Sorry, it's latin: "and the others"
@rakasas suggested a solution to configure it from scratch, but also:

rakasas wrote:

Actually, this is not entirely true statement. Debian (Gnome) has this function and it is done just like he describes by clicking "create hot-spot".

So, you could install the full Gnome desktop (warning: it's a bugger to remove):

sudo aptitude install gnome

ohnonot · 2014-08-10 20:13:15

sorry again, it seems i'm losing it...
obviously this:

raksasas wrote:

Actually, this is not entirely true statement. Debian (Gnome) has this function and it is done just like he describes by clicking "create hot-spot".

would seem the safest solution - no ppas involved!
alternatively, one could check out what exactly in the gnome desktop (and lubuntu?) is providing the hotspot, and try to install the appropriate package(s) only, from debian repos.

PackRat · 2014-08-10 21:00:32

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

So, you could install the full Gnome desktop (warning: it's a bugger to remove):
sudo aptitude install gnome

Regarding this, my question would be - is all of Gnome required, or will installing just nm-applet (gnome-network-manager) solve the problem?

Haven't installed #! in a long time, does it use wicd by default?

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ohnonot · 2014-08-10 21:09:56

^no, it uses nm-applet already. must be something else in gnome.

raksasas · 2014-08-11 13:24:31

Please don't quote me on anything because I was trying to do something a little different.

I was just saying that I saw it when I was attempting to do my project. I tried to use the "one-click" option but it never worked because it would check to see if I was connected to the Internet (wired) which I wasn't and would it would turn back off.

I will look for the links I found to turn the laptop into an Wireless AP to "share" your Internet connection if your laptop has a supported wireless card.

raksasas · 2014-08-11 13:34:14

Disclaimer - I am not in no way responsible for anything you do on you system. It is all at your own risk!
big_smile

Here are all my links. Some are related to this more then others.
https://agentoss.wordpress.com/2011/10/ … ian-linux/
http://imranasghar.blogspot.com/2009/09 … outer.html
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions … ot-855887/
https://superuser.com/questions/709879/ … nd-hostapd
http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-w … linux.html
http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/44 … cess-point
https://exain.wordpress.com/2011/03/31/ … b-adapter/
https://prahladyeri.wordpress.com/2013/ … ess-point/
http://askubuntu.com/questions/105217/h … fi-hotspot
https://nims11.wordpress.com/2012/04/27 … ess-point/

CSCoder4ever · 2014-08-11 15:18:25

And all of this could've been prevented if a router was involved. roll

raksasas · 2014-08-11 15:44:21

CSCoder4ever wrote:

And all of this could've been prevented if a router was involved.

Agreed... if you did that you wont learn as much smile

CSCoder4ever · 2014-08-11 16:00:58

raksasas wrote:

CSCoder4ever wrote:
And all of this could've been prevented if a router was involved.
Agreed... if you did that you wont learn as much

yeah there's no benefit learning how to turn a computer into a hotspot unless it's a router itself. roll

besides the fact that it can be dishonest in some cases.

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raksasas · 2014-08-11 18:25:43

CSCoder4ever wrote:

raksasas wrote:
CSCoder4ever wrote:
And all of this could've been prevented if a router was involved.
Agreed... if you did that you wont learn as much
yeah there's no benefit learning how to turn a computer into a hotspot unless it's a router itself.
besides the fact that it can be dishonest in some cases.

Link didn't work... Bad request. The link you followed is incorrect or outdated.

So, you are saying that learning....
what a/the command does
being introduced to a new program
what that program does
a little bit of networking
possibly see other uses of what they just did
Etc, etc, etc, etc...

Is not beneficial?

Btw, this is getting away from what the topic is and is not being productive to helping him.

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Alad · 2014-08-11 18:44:16

I don't quite follow this topic, but if you want something from a PPA, compile it from the PPA source. It's still not guaranteed to work, but if you MUST, it's an option.

Link didn't work... Bad request. The link you followed is incorrect or outdated.

It's from A.D. -- Arch Dustbin devil tongue (i.e, you need an account to see it).

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CSCoder4ever · 2014-08-11 18:59:33

raksasas wrote:

Link didn't work... Bad request. The link you followed is incorrect or outdated.
So, you are saying that learning....
what a/the command does
being introduced to a new program
what that program does
a little bit of networking
possibly see other uses of what they just did
Etc, etc, etc, etc...
Is not beneficial?
Btw, this is getting away from what the topic is and is not being productive to helping him.

darn, well Alad at least knows what I'm talking about.

and yes, it's not beneficial. useless in fact.

and I gave my input, which was get a router. They're so affordable these days. roll

Head_on_a_Stick · 2014-08-11 19:03:43

Alad wrote:

I don't quite follow this topic

@Alad --- You've used Gnome in Debian right?
Can you create a wi-fi hotspot with a 1-click operation in that DE?
Do you know how to do it in #!?

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