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#426 2014-07-17 13:47:09

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BTW Columbo is loosely based on Crime and Punishment's Porfiry Petrovich
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#427 2014-07-17 13:55:53

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@Ratcheer: First Gentoo and now Tolstoy. You either love challenges, or ....? I keep a notebook when reading Russian novels, mainly to keep track of all the characters' nicknames. It seems each character has several, depending on whether friend, family, or whatever.  As one person I knew once commented about Russian novels, "Lots of people in lots of pages." yikes

I guess I do love challenges. I once had a boss assign me to write a COBOL program to perform some system catalog maintenance (IBM S/390 VSAM catalog). I asked him if he minded if I wrote it in assembler, instead. He allowed it. Later on, that saved our butts. After running well for a couple of years, the program crashed one night. Some records in the catalog had become "spanned" and could no longer be loaded into the allocated memory. I consulted with a catalog expert who asked me what language my program was written in. When I answered, "Assembler,", he responded, "Good. If you had written it in COBOL, you wouldn't have been able to fix it."

I am considering taking another plunge into Gentoo. I have a friend in the UK who wants to try it, too. We said we might try to work through it, together.

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#428 2014-07-17 13:59:18

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I dug out my 30 year old Sharp EL-5500II to show a new 20 something developer.
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#429 2014-07-17 15:38:09

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@Sector11: Have you read any detective stories by Canadian author Louise Penny. As a Canadian, you may enjoy her novels featuring Chief Inspector Armand Gamache. There's much about the differences (or are they) between the English (les Anglais) and the Québécois.

I was born in that area. she's being nice keeping it to les Anglais and les Québécois.  Lots of other names have been used. big_smile  The French in Quebec call me English.  Depending on how you read it, I may or may not be Québécios, with a Scottish/Canadian father and a French Canadian mother I never worried about it.  I'm a Canuck.  big_smile

The area you referenced to is very nice and tons of history ... all the way up to and including the Gaspé peninsula. I've never heard of her, I'll put her name of my list as well.  Thank you, love a good murder mystery as well.


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#430 2014-07-17 15:47:36

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I can't say for a printed copy, but it is almost 2,500 pages on my ereader version. The novel is broken into eight "books" of about 30 chapters, each. I am now several chapters in to the fifth "book".

OH MY!!!!  I've never read anything quite that long...  Do you have an ereader (hardware)?   I had an 'ereader' program for my computer but I don't feel comfortable, maybe it's my chair, sitting at a desktop reading books ... 'paper' is still my thing.


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#431 2014-07-17 17:10:27

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ratcheer wrote:

When I answered, "Assembler,", he responded, "Good. If you had written it in COBOL, you wouldn't have been able to fix it."

I am considering taking another plunge into Gentoo. I have a friend in the UK who wants to try it, too. We said we might try to work through it, together.

I'm not a 'coder' by any stretch of the imagination.  But that fascinating, curious as to why you wouldn't have been able to fix it in COBAL.

I only found out that "awk" (or is it grep?) is a computer language as well ... go figure.  I'm such a noob.  big_smile

hinto wrote:

I dug out my 30 year old Sharp EL-5500II to show a new 20 something developer.
-Hinto

REALLY!  Still working?

I still have my Casio fx-451 that was a blessing when I was working.  It still works, because I've 'never' bent the right side cover around toi the back.  A few friends did that an broke the connector strips between the two sides. bought it in 1986.  Gets very very little use today, but it's still going strong!  Can't believe they only built it for two years ... now I'm looking for a manual. big_smile

Ahhhhhhh nostalgia.  Something youth doesn't have lol lol lol


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#432 2014-07-17 17:15:06

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I put fresh batteries in it before I passed it off.
The last time I really used it was '98, in MBA school.
I programmed it, rather than buying a financial calculator.
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#433 2014-07-17 17:20:36

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@sector11, I have both ereader hardware (iPad Air) and on my desktop (Calibre). I use both, depending on the situation. But yes, I prefer real paper books, too. But classics such as Tolstoy and Dickens can be legitimately downloaded for free, while printed books cost real money. wink

The reason that program couldn't have been fixed in COBOL was because more memory had to be allocated, dynamically. Those VSAM catalog records were capable of becoming arbitrarily large. Assembler had the features to allocate more memory, if and when it was needed. COBOL apparently did not, at least at that time (mid to late 80's).

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#434 2014-07-23 22:56:48

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Who needs a calculator you have to program? I still have my slide rule from high school. Back then, I thought it was a cool tool. cool
Since then, I forgot how to use it and couldn't find the instructions. Perhaps some rainy day, I can look it up online and figure out how to use it again.  roll


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#435 2014-07-23 23:13:04

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From what I recall, the scales are logarithmic, so just add/subtract neighboring scales for multiply/divide. So you put the zero against the first value, then look along to the second value, and read off the product. Or vice versa smile


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#436 2014-07-23 23:17:58

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^Many thanks for the tip. but it's almost Greek to me, except that I might remember more Greek than logarithms.  glasses


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#437 2014-07-23 23:40:43

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HP to the rescue ... the second entry: Calculating Machines, Slide Rules, etc.

I lost/threw away my "school sliderule" ... and then when I joined the military they taught us all over again ... {sigh}.  Then a few years later hey gave is desktop calculators ... since they knew we'd be using those in the offices anyway.  Designing footings and walls etc etc was much easier with the desktop calculators.

My first 'pocket calculator' was too big for my pocket and cost me $99.99 Canadian back in ±1972.  All it did was the 4 basic functions and it was by accident I found if I kept hitting enter it was like doing: 6*3³

6x3x3x3=162

... and from there ... yikes!


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#438 2014-07-23 23:42:13

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How old do I have to be so I can be part of the OHCGers? 46 will do?

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#439 2014-07-24 01:08:25

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I hope so... I just reached that last week.
I *think* the requirement is that you remember seeing Buck Rogers in the 25th Century first run;)
(or The 6 Million Dollar Man)
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#440 2014-07-24 01:16:51

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hinto wrote:

I hope so... I just reached that last week.
I *think* the requirement is that you remember seeing Buck Rogers in the 25th Century first run;)
(or The 6 Million Dollar Man)
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Then I'm in!! hehe big_smile I remember Twiki


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#441 2014-07-24 01:47:03

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linuxreign wrote:

How old do I have to be so I can be part of the OHCGers? 46 will do?

LR

Nope, read the OP ... 60 or once was 60.  big_smile

But the last line in that post: Visitors are welcome!

We gain from a youthful input, you gain from ancient wisdom.

Of course that statement should be taken with a grain salt shaker full of salt.


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#442 2014-07-24 01:48:36

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I feel better already... I just cut up my AARP card wink
Thanks Sector11 wink
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#443 2014-07-24 01:54:31

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hinto wrote:

I feel better already... I just cut up my AARP card wink
Thanks Sector11 wink
-H

Cut it up?  Why?  I had to look AARP up ...

I'll have to discuss this with the other members to see if they agree that AARP members can be Official Honorary Over-the-Hill-CrunchGang Member.  big_smile

Sounds better than: Over-the-Hill-CrunchGang Wannabe  lol


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#444 2014-07-24 02:00:19

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I'm joking of course... you don't get a card until you're 50.  I'm 4 years off.  But since I'm even too young to be in the forum, I feel like going for a walk.

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#445 2014-07-24 02:09:28

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Let me join you Hinto


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#446 2014-07-24 06:01:59

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^ Not sure whether to root for cabbage creature or robot Sleestak. tongue
Oh darn, Sleestak turned cabbage guy to slaw.

I had a slide rule at one time too, but it was more a matter of  "geek chic".


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#447 2014-07-24 07:01:55

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Sector11 wrote:

I still have my Casio fx-451 that was a blessing when I was working.

Casio FX-702P was my first programmable device and actually the very first programming experience too.  I bought it for my physics studies, but as far as I remember it, most programs running on it were some sort of dice games. The rest were usually some sort of iterations or series calculations. (Just lots of nested FOR loops and one line formula.)

I hadn't had chance to learn programming at school, only heard rumours that some senior high schools in big cities had a computer for students for learning to write programs, can you imagine!

702P was not just a calculator, she was a friend who taught me a lot. I was really sad when she passed away.

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#448 2014-07-24 15:42:57

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I had a birthday, recently. Now, I am even older.  neutral

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#449 2014-07-24 16:40:18

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Congratulations, ratcheer. Judging by your photo, you look just as young as before.

I've decided to celebrate round numbers only: 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, ... That way I don't have to bake a cake every year.

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#450 2014-07-24 17:17:52

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^ I count my age in hexadecimal, so I'm 28 not 40 big_smile
Happy birthday Tim!


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