problemas with suspend

idopissingthechicle · 2014-03-12 19:19:22

hi, i have an ATI card radeon...ehen i suspend crunchbang i t does not wake up later. The screen is black and i can't do anything. The pc does nothing.
I have tried everything that you posted in the forum, but it does not work. To install the ATI drivers i foollowed the guide in debian.org https://wiki.debian.org/es/ATIProprietary#configure

and the system do recognize now the graphic card. But i have a problema when i try to awake after suspending the pc.

¿does anybody know how to solve that problem? neutral

thanks a lot

jabza · 2014-03-12 20:20:56

I also have problems with suspend.

When I suspend (or hibernate, for that matter), I get a black screen with a non-blinking cursor in the top left corner, as if I'm at the CLI. However, I can't enter anything. Nothing happens when I use ctrl + alt + F1 (F2, F3, etc). I also cannot wake from the suspend without forcing a reboot.

I've looked at this thread, but none of the answers there seemed to help my problem.

I have an ASUS laptop with Intel graphics, if that helps. I'm happy to give any info about my system that could help.

idopissingthechicle · 2014-03-12 22:06:35

at least i can hibernate with pm-hibernate.

the problema with suspend comes from de Graphic card for sure. If i get the catalyst control installed in any disribution of linux, i never have any problem. Bu with debian you cannot install directly the propietary drivers. It's very dificult for newbies and you musy follow the path it's described in the link above.
I was in linuxmint before i decided to step away to debian and crunchbag. It's much more difficult to configure the hardware and the final settings. But if so, i rather prefer these distros: more simple, fast, almost minimal. And a good way to learn something when you must deal with all these problems.. tongue

pd: sorry for my english, i am not a native speaker.. big_smile

Alad · 2014-03-12 22:40:45

Bu with debian you cannot install directly the propietary drivers.

sudo aptitude install fglrx-driver fglrx-control
sudo aticonfig --initial -v

Also it's hard to diagnose either issue without logs. Both of you post outputs of

sudo grep -r hiber /var/log

Last edited by Alad (2014-03-12 22:49:09)

jabza · 2014-03-12 22:41:30

The interesting thing is that I could suspend/hibernate just fine with Ubuntu and UbuntuGNOME (oddly enough, UbuntuGNOME worked better with my hardware), but for whatever reason, Crunchbang just doesn't want to suspend my system. sad

Hopefully someone more knowledgeable will come along and give us some insight. smile

Alad · 2014-03-12 22:46:25

See my above edit - Linus himself can't help you without details/log provided.

Besides that: do you have a swap partition?

blkid
cat /etc/fstab

Last edited by Alad (2014-03-12 22:46:40)

idopissingthechicle · 2014-03-12 22:56:16

Alad wrote:

Bu with debian you cannot install directly the propietary drivers.
sudo aptitude install fglrx-driver fglrx-control
sudo aticonfig --initial -v
Also it's hard to diagnose either issue without logs. Both of you post outputs of
sudo grep -r hiber /var/log

thanks, but that was not the solution.I tried that with another distos and debian, but the system messed up.

The only that worked for me (in debian) was:

i had to give permissions for:

# Paquetes adaptados para Debian 7 «Wheezy»
deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-backports main contrib non-free

and then

# aptitude update
# aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,')
# aptitude -r -t wheezy-backports install fglrx-legacy-driver

in other distros, i had to download de .run package of AMD official website and bash it. It was better as it also installed the amd catalyst center. So in other distros my graphic card works better than in pure debian.

In pure debian you must have more knowledge and prepare the kernel before install the propietary driver

so they left the solution here: http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-backports main contrib non-free. It does everything except install the catalyst control center ( i suppose)

ATI cards are always a problem with linux

jabza · 2014-03-13 00:11:15

Alad wrote:

Bu with debian you cannot install directly the propietary drivers.
sudo aptitude install fglrx-driver fglrx-control
sudo aticonfig --initial -v
Also it's hard to diagnose either issue without logs. Both of you post outputs of
sudo grep -r hiber /var/log

Sorry I didn't see your post earlier, you posted it as I typed up mine and I didn't notice it when I submitted it.

Here's the output of sudo grep -r hiber /var/log
http://pastebin.com/VQDnmDuG

And I do have a swap partition. Here's the output of blkid and cat /etc/fstab
http://pastebin.com/HvrinssR

Edit: I'm not sure if it makes a difference in the log you want, but my main issue is with suspends. But if the log about hibernation helps with that, I'm happy too.

Last edited by jabza (2014-03-13 00:13:08)

marmotBreath · 2014-03-13 03:30:38

jabza wrote:

Alad wrote:
Bu with debian you cannot install directly the propietary drivers.
sudo aptitude install fglrx-driver fglrx-control
sudo aticonfig --initial -v
Also it's hard to diagnose either issue without logs. Both of you post outputs of
sudo grep -r hiber /var/log
Sorry I didn't see your post earlier, you posted it as I typed up mine and I didn't notice it when I submitted it.
Here's the output of sudo grep -r hiber /var/log
http://pastebin.com/VQDnmDuG
And I do have a swap partition. Here's the output of blkid and cat /etc/fstab
http://pastebin.com/HvrinssR
Edit: I'm not sure if it makes a difference in the log you want, but my main issue is with suspends. But if the log about hibernation helps with that, I'm happy too.

I was having suspend/resume problems on an old Lenovo S10-3 running Crunchbang Waldorf. It would suspend, but I could not resume. I upgraded to Sid (unstable) and I've been able to resume just fine ever since.

jabza · 2014-03-13 03:43:33

marmotBreath wrote:

jabza wrote:
Alad wrote:
sudo aptitude install fglrx-driver fglrx-control
sudo aticonfig --initial -v
Also it's hard to diagnose either issue without logs. Both of you post outputs of
sudo grep -r hiber /var/log
Sorry I didn't see your post earlier, you posted it as I typed up mine and I didn't notice it when I submitted it.
Here's the output of sudo grep -r hiber /var/log
http://pastebin.com/VQDnmDuG
And I do have a swap partition. Here's the output of blkid and cat /etc/fstab
http://pastebin.com/HvrinssR
Edit: I'm not sure if it makes a difference in the log you want, but my main issue is with suspends. But if the log about hibernation helps with that, I'm happy too.
I was having suspend/resume problems on an old Lenovo S10-3 running Crunchbang Waldorf. It would suspend, but I could not resume. I upgraded to Sid (unstable) and I've been able to resume just fine ever since.

What happened when you suspended? Did the screen actually turn off or did it show a blank screen with a gray _ in the top left?

Alad · 2014-03-13 08:37:04

What happened when you suspended? Did the screen actually turn off or did it show a blank screen with a gray _ in the top left?

Post #2

When I suspend (or hibernate, for that matter), I get a black screen with a non-blinking cursor in the top left corner, as if I'm at the CLI.

Okay nothing interesting in those logs. Install these:

sudo aptitude install acpi-support vbetool

Please use suspend (try both pm-suspend and the suspend button), then provide the logs of

/var/log/dmesg
/var/log/kern.log
/var/log/syslog

Also info on your system

lspci -v

If it works with sid you'd have to identify what to upgrade to make it work. Post #7 solved it by installing a newer graphics driver.

Last edited by Alad (2014-03-13 08:42:39)

marmotBreath · 2014-03-13 16:55:42

jabza wrote:

marmotBreath wrote:
jabza wrote:
Sorry I didn't see your post earlier, you posted it as I typed up mine and I didn't notice it when I submitted it.
Here's the output of sudo grep -r hiber /var/log
http://pastebin.com/VQDnmDuG
And I do have a swap partition. Here's the output of blkid and cat /etc/fstab
http://pastebin.com/HvrinssR
Edit: I'm not sure if it makes a difference in the log you want, but my main issue is with suspends. But if the log about hibernation helps with that, I'm happy too.

I was having suspend/resume problems on an old Lenovo S10-3 running Crunchbang Waldorf. It would suspend, but I could not resume. I upgraded to Sid (unstable) and I've been able to resume just fine ever since.
What happened when you suspended? Did the screen actually turn off or did it show a blank screen with a gray _ in the top left?

In my case the screen actually turned off. This happened when I closed the netbook's lid.

KrunchTime · 2014-03-18 23:42:52

@OP: I have an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4570 chip, considered a legacy chip by AMD. I'm currently using the legacy driver and Catalyst software from AMD and I'm not having any problems with suspend under CrunchBang and never have. If you're interested, and think it might help, send me a PM and I'll send you the how-to I use for installing the proprietary legacy driver and software from AMD. My how-to may also resolve the heat issue you complained about in your post about giving up on CrunchBang.

Last edited by KrunchTime (2014-03-18 23:43:34)

Alad · 2014-03-18 23:47:39

If you're interested, and think it might help, send me a PM and I'll send you the how-to I use for installing the proprietary legacy driver and software from AMD. My how-to may also resolve the heat issue you complained about in your post about giving up on CrunchBang.

Is your how-to classified information? If not, may I suggest to post it here, so others with similar issues can find it. kiss

Last edited by Alad (2014-03-18 23:50:18)

KrunchTime · 2014-03-18 23:50:38

@Alad...no it's not classified. I hesitate posting to the forum because then I would need to update the link every time I made a change to the how-to. The how-to would be in PDF format. The how-to is actually built from two posts from the CrunchBang forums. I've added screenshots and some of my own notes, though.

Last edited by KrunchTime (2014-03-18 23:54:57)

Alad · 2014-03-18 23:56:12

Perhaps you could put it in google docs (or similar) as a document?

Not insisting, I'd just think it would be useful.

KrunchTime · 2014-03-19 00:03:37

Okay, I guess I could post a link and provide the caveat that the tip is only verified to work under CrunchBang Waldorf. I'll go work on it now and post the link afterwards.

KrunchTime · 2014-03-19 01:33:21

Here it is. Note, this worked for me for an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4570 GPU on a Dell Studio 1557 under CrunchBang 11 (Waldorf); YMMV.

https://www.asuswebstorage.com/navigate … 8A0D5B1314

References consulted:
http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic … n00b-here/
http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/post/80931/#p80931

Last edited by KrunchTime (2014-03-19 01:33:49)

Alad · 2014-03-19 01:42:17

Thanks for sharing, let's hope OP will succeed.

KrunchTime · 2014-03-19 01:44:53

No problem. I've certainly received a lot of help from members of the forums here.

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