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#1 2014-03-02 08:07:25

Awakened
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Registered: 2014-03-02
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Brand new to Linux

Hello everyone! I'm a long time VB6 programmer in Windows. I've always wanted to make the switch to Linux and I was suggested by someone to try out CrunchBang! I've never really had to use Linux before or had an exact reason to: besides that it's always intrigued me.

I'm downloading the ISO now and plan on sticking it onto a 32gig thumb drive. I'm hoping this'll be enough to be persistent!

This looks like a great community and I can't wait to be apart of it. Thanks for being so active!

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#2 2014-03-02 11:19:39

vic
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Registered: 2009-02-13
Posts: 3,296

Re: Brand new to Linux

Welcome to the #!forums Awakened, hope you will have a good time here with us:)


Time to move on!#

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#3 2014-03-02 13:53:54

CSCoder4ever
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From: /dev/zero
Registered: 2013-09-03
Posts: 2,068

Re: Brand new to Linux

Welcome Awakened! Enjoy the incredible #! distro!

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#4 2014-03-02 15:19:44

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Re: Brand new to Linux

Thank you so much guys. I have a quick question for you if you don't mind:

I'm on Windows 8 right now and I made a bootable flash drive by using win32 disk imager. It worked perfectly fine and I was able to boot into it by going into bios, switching to Legacy (instead of UEFI), disabled secure boot and fast boot.

The problem I'm having though is if I select Install from the boot menu I make it all the way to the partition part. I select the thumb drive (because it shows around 30 gigs available) and it tells me that /dev/sdb is in use by the system. It then suggests to restart, or to ignore it. If I hit ignore it fails and I can't go any further.

Is it failing because I'm trying to install it onto the flash drive and it literally is in use? I just wanted to make a persistent version using the entire thumb drive. If you guys have any suggestions I would really appreciate it! My only other OS available is Windows 8.

Thanks guys!

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#5 2014-03-02 15:31:20

damo
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Re: Brand new to Linux

Hi there Awakened. There is a forum search tool at the top right of the page if you hadn't already seen it - a lot of info on the forums about persistence, including The Correct Way for Persistence on a LiveUSB for WALDORF

Happy hacking smile


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#6 2014-03-02 15:33:08

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Re: Brand new to Linux

Are you trying to install #! on the same flash drive that you're using to boot to the #! installation media or are you using a different one?

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#7 2014-03-02 15:34:17

vic
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Re: Brand new to Linux

It fails because you are using it. You have to install to another thumbdrive. That is my experience at the least.


Time to move on!#

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#8 2014-03-02 15:36:31

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Re: Brand new to Linux

damo wrote:

Hi there Awakened. There is a forum search tool at the top right of the page if you hadn't already seen it - a lot of info on the forums about persistence, including The Correct Way for Persistence on a LiveUSB for WALDORF

Happy hacking smile

Thank you for sharing this, I did see this as well. It mentions to use a Linux OS and not the Live version on the USB. Unfortunately the only other OS I have available is Windows 8.

Step 5: Put the USB back into a Linux system (not the LiveUSB system) and use your favorite partitioning tool to resize the first partition and make a new partition labeled "persistence" (not "live-rw"). Also, be sure that the format is in a Linux file format (any ext format). Again, I used GParted.

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#9 2014-03-02 15:37:52

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Re: Brand new to Linux

CSCoder4ever wrote:

Are you trying to install #! on the same flash drive that you're using to boot to the #! installation media or are you using a different one?

vicshrike wrote:

It fails because you are using it. You have to install to another thumbdrive. That is my experience at the least.

Yeah I'm definitely trying to use the same thumb drive. I'll go ahead and make a Live one on another thumb drive then!

Wow I can't believe how fast you guys responded. This community is amazingly helpful. Thank you so much you guys!

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#10 2014-03-02 18:03:23

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Re: Brand new to Linux

Hey guys sorry to bother you all again. So the dual USB drive worked out great. I was able to boot into one of the USB's and point the installation to the other one. Now where I'm running into a problem is when it gets to GRUB. It won't allow me to install it to the MBR (which I'm assuming is because of something to do with Windows 8?). I do have UEFI disabled (I'm using legacy) as well as Secure boot and Fast boot.

Sorry to be a pester, I'm just really excited to get started with #! , I just wish there wasn't so many problems in the beginning so far! Any would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much you guys!

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#11 2014-03-02 19:01:17

Head_on_a_Stick
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From: A world of pure imagination
Registered: 2014-01-21
Posts: 2,782

Re: Brand new to Linux

The GRUB bootloader needs to be installed onto the memory stick you are installing #! onto (/dev/sda will be your internal hard drive, do NOT install the GRUB bootloader here).
Direct the GRUB to install to /dev/sdb or sdc depending on which is the live stick and which is the install stick.
This would probably be simpler if you had the live version of #! on a DVD and booted from that... wink
I wouldn't bother with FAT32 partions or anything like that -- just use one ext4 partition on the install stick (plus swap at the end, if you have less than 2GB of RAM), and direct GRUB to install to that single partition (/dev/sdb or sdc with no partition number). I have done this myself and it worked fine, just treat the memory stick as if it were an attatched hard drive.
Good luck! smile

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#12 2014-03-02 21:13:37

Awakened
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Re: Brand new to Linux

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

The GRUB bootloader needs to be installed onto the memory stick you are installing #! onto (/dev/sda will be your internal hard drive, do NOT install the GRUB bootloader here).
Direct the GRUB to install to /dev/sdb or sdc depending on which is the live stick and which is the install stick.

Thank you so much! dev/sdc installed grub just fine! I was able to see the boot loader. The only downfall is I keep getting stuck on this (sorry for having to take a picture)
Nesmklm.jpg

Ive been reading through a lot of other threads about this and it seems to just be more of a "cosmetic" thing for them. Im not sure if the errors are directly related but it hangs here as well and I've yet been able to boot.

Thanks guys, all of your help is much appreciated!

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